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Leon 07-04-2016 10:49 AM

1928 Babe Ruth Candy Company - Real or Fake?
 
So what are ya'lls thoughts on these? We have had a lot of in depth discussions on this series in the past. Real or not?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EXTEMELY-RARE-6-CARD-SET-1928-GEO-H-RUTH-CANDY-CO-BABE-RUTH-YANKEES-LK-/142042862702

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1880nonsports 07-04-2016 01:12 PM

hard to tell without a loupe
 
but the ghosting on the back in the one instance I looked at matched thereby lending credibility on the real side. On the other side of the coin - they were all different and all found together and all well used. Not disqualifying but suggestive as a secondary accumulation. I might start with a sniff...........

JustinD 07-04-2016 04:31 PM

I Will admit this is definitely an issue that I do not even trust myself on. These babies are the Mensa of sorting fakes.

wolterse 07-05-2016 06:34 AM

Why won't psa grade this issue as the owner states in the description?

Batter67up 07-05-2016 06:45 AM

The artificial staining on the back tells me they are 100% fake. I bought one of these in 2004 that had the same staining ( artificial aging) and it was fake. I would stay away from these.

bigfish 07-05-2016 08:57 AM

Ruth Candy Cards
 
The front images are blurry. Makes it hard to determine. This might be by design? I smell rotten eggs.

I would stay away.

JustinD 07-05-2016 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolterse (Post 1558306)
Why won't psa grade this issue as the owner states in the description?

I know PSA, and SGC won't grade them due to the prevalence of really good fakes and they honestly don't want to stake a reputation on them. Not sure about BVG, but I have not seen a BVG graded copy.

BeanTown 07-05-2016 09:21 AM

This series was the most popular to fake back in the 90s. Many collectors and dealers got burned on them. I know of one dealer in Florida who took a hit on this.

When a seller says "I'm not an expert" and a buzz word like "appear" and then you see they were turned down by a grading company, then to me it seems a risky buy.

Zach Wheat 07-05-2016 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustinD (Post 1558160)
I Will admit this is definitely an issue that I do not even trust myself on. These babies are the Mensa of sorting fakes.


Completely agree with Justin. The appearance of being artificially aged would prohibit me from buying.

Z

EvilKing00 07-05-2016 01:32 PM

blurry front images and the staining on back will keep me from making an offer - IMO they look fake

Exhibitman 07-05-2016 02:07 PM

Can't tell squat from the crappy scans online.

As for whether the issue itself is genuine, I think it is based on the raw ones I've handled (but only the whiter version; the others may be good but I haven't actually played with any), but I would not want to buy one I could not handle myself to check it, though I suppose with really crisp scans in a reputable TPG holder I would be OK too.

Justin, is it these they won't grade too? I thought that was FroJoys. I had mine slabbed with SGC a long time ago.

ValKehl 07-05-2016 06:09 PM

2 Attachment(s)
My type-card example also has been graded by SGC - hope it's legit:

JustinD 07-05-2016 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1558467)

Justin, is it these they won't grade too? I thought that was FroJoys. I had mine slabbed with SGC a long time ago.

I could very, very possibly be wrong, I thought it was both but I stopped knowing everything around age 17, lol.

I was under the impression SGC no longer grades them.

Leon 07-07-2016 04:25 PM

My thought on these was/is probably not good but not 100% sure. They look too grainy...

Snapolit1 07-07-2016 04:37 PM

Someone just bought a nice set of crap. Only $1200.

New account. Only 2 bids. Yep. That sounds right.

MW1 07-07-2016 05:01 PM

In the first image where all 6 cards are displayed, they look authentic. In the scans of the individual cards, the image quality appears to be more consistent with counterfeits. With something like this, it's too difficult to tell with the inconsistent scans that are displayed by the seller...but maybe that's all part of the strategy. Certainly, some of the description verbiage and the word "L@@K!!!!!!" in the auction title, don't exactly inspire confidence.


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