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oldjudge 06-16-2019 09:04 PM

Browning Old Judge on Ebay
 
Congratulations to whoever won the Old Judge Pete Browning on Ebay tonight. This is a scarce card of a very popular player, a card I haven’t seen come to market in quite a few years.

Steve D 06-16-2019 09:36 PM

I've had Browning on my wantlist for years; this was the first one I've ever seen for sale. I had zero chance at it though :(

I thought it interesting that it was being sold by a general antique dealer in Truckee (Lake Tahoe) California. It looks like someone came in to them with a group of Old Judges, as the seller had several others ending tonight.


Steve

bigfish 06-16-2019 09:48 PM

Browning
 
That was a score! Congrats to the winner.

trdcrdkid 06-16-2019 10:00 PM

I noticed the Browning and would have loved to get it, but the price quickly got too rich for my blood. I did win one OJ from the same seller, this John Barnes, St. Paul manager, with a great, sharp image.

https://i246.photobucket.com/albums/...D45611832.jpeg

oldjudge 06-16-2019 10:15 PM

David—Beautiful image. Congratulations!

Bored5000 06-16-2019 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trdcrdkid (Post 1889674)
I noticed the Browning and would have loved to get it, but the price quickly got too rich for my blood. I did win one OJ from the same seller, this John Barnes, St. Paul manager, with a great, sharp image.

https://i246.photobucket.com/albums/...D45611832.jpeg

That is great image clarity for an Old Judge card. Congrats on the purchase.

Steve D 06-17-2019 12:11 AM

I love the top hat and pocket watch!

:)
Steve

Huysmans 06-17-2019 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve D (Post 1889692)
I love the top hat and pocket watch!

:)
Steve

When gentlemen were gentlemen.

rjackson44 06-17-2019 04:35 AM

Gorgeous cards

judsonhamlin 06-17-2019 04:48 AM

That was a nice grouping of cards - The Annis, Worcester had an interesting 'miscut' that was a cool flaw in the reproduction process and that Barkley portrait is, I think, fairly tough.

scooter729 06-17-2019 07:07 AM

I missed the auction and now can't find the listing for the Browning - could someone share a link as I'd like to see it - thanks!

judsonhamlin 06-17-2019 07:25 AM

Can't seem to paste the link here but if you search truckeeantiques completed items it should pop up.,
I would also expect more Old Judges from them since this group was only A-G. H to Z could be interesting.

Leon 06-17-2019 07:45 AM

Here ya go

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1887-N172-O...p2047675.l2557

Quote:

Originally Posted by judsonhamlin (Post 1889732)
Can't seem to paste the link here but if you search truckeeantiques completed items it should pop up.,
I would also expect more Old Judges from them since this group was only A-G. H to Z could be interesting.


Jason 06-17-2019 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by judsonhamlin (Post 1889732)
Can't seem to paste the link here but if you search truckeeantiques completed items it should pop up.,
I would also expect more Old Judges from them since this group was only A-G. H to Z could be interesting.

Good catch on the A-G listing detail. He may yet list the Old Judge at the top of my want list!

judsonhamlin 06-17-2019 08:47 AM

Richmond native and veteran of the 1884 Virginians, Billy Nash?

pete zouras 06-17-2019 09:13 AM

They will not be listing anymore OJs. These were all they were able to win at an estate auction (about half). Glad I was able to pick up one.

judsonhamlin 06-17-2019 09:23 AM

Nuts.

oldjudge 06-17-2019 12:27 PM

Maybe the other half will come to market via a different seller.

pete zouras 06-17-2019 02:09 PM

Seller got a nice ROI on the Browning
 
https://witherells.com/lot/1887-n172...od-2-5-3951831

Jason 06-17-2019 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by judsonhamlin (Post 1889749)
Richmond native and veteran of the 1884 Virginians, Billy Nash?


Who lol?

oldjudge 06-17-2019 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete zouras (Post 1889858)


He certainly did. If the auction house had done a little leg work they could have found this site and posted about the Old Judge group. Pity for the consignor.

packs 06-17-2019 02:36 PM

I thought it went cheap. I figured it would end around 6K.

oldjudge 06-17-2019 02:41 PM

It’s been so long since a copy has come to market that I had no idea what to expect. As I told a friend, I would not have been surprised if it went for $2,500, and I would not have been surprised if it went for $10,000.

trdcrdkid 06-17-2019 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 1889869)
He certainly did. If the auction house had done a little leg work they could have found this site and posted about the Old Judge group. Pity for the consignor.

All of those OJs went incredibly cheap, below even the lowball estimates made by the auction house. The miscut Annis went for $60 (estimate $100-$250), the Gypsy Queen Carroll went for $387 (estimate $100-$250), Buck Ewing and Dan Brouthers for $714 and $208 respectively (estimates $250-$500, the same as commons), the Barkley portrait for $107 (estimate $250-$500). Somebody at that auction house had no clue what they were doing and no clue what they had.

https://witherells.com/auction/mantu...search=display

oldjudge 06-17-2019 02:54 PM

It is not a sin that a general auction house might not know about a particular card issue. What is horrible is if they don’t educate themselves before auctioning the items. Contrast this with the great job that Phillip Weiss did for his consignor with the Long Island Old Judge cabinet find.

Steve D 06-17-2019 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete zouras (Post 1889858)


Is that correct; that the Browning went for only $238 on June 5th?

:eek:
Steve

oldjudge 06-17-2019 04:31 PM

Sure appears that way

tennisguy 06-17-2019 05:06 PM

Barkley Portrait...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by judsonhamlin (Post 1889703)
That was a nice grouping of cards - The Annis, Worcester had an interesting 'miscut' that was a cool flaw in the reproduction process and that Barkley portrait is, I think, fairly tough.


I like the Barkley Portrait. I have always liked that OJ portrait card! Unfortunately, came up short. Is the Barkley Portrait considered tough? I know there is two versions of his Portrait image. Sold for just under $400 PSA 2? High??

oldjudge 06-17-2019 05:43 PM

I think in that condition the portrait price was on the low side of fair.

tennisguy 06-17-2019 06:05 PM

Tough portrait?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 1889958)
I think in that condition the portrait price was on the low side of fair.

Is the Barkley a tough portrait to obtain compared to other portraits in the OJ set? (Excluding the spotted tie subset)

oldjudge 06-17-2019 06:11 PM

Kind of in the middle. Healey, Wright Pose 2, the McCormick portraits, and McGreachery (Deacon White) for example are all a lot tougher.

tennisguy 06-18-2019 07:24 AM

Originated...
 
Does anyone know where this grouping originated from?


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