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Archive 01-12-2006 05:00 PM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>Patrick McMenemy</b><p>I thought it might be interesting to see color variations in the T206 set.<br /><br />I have a couple of cards that show some variation in color.<br /><br />I have seen the Kling T206s range from the more common bright red to bright orange. I happen to have a red and one what I call a peach color.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137113618.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137113849.JPG"> <br /><br />I also have a couple of Chief Meyers (Portrait) T206s that show the more common burgandy and one that is more of a brown color.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137113141.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137113366.JPG"> <br /><br />Anyone else care to share their T206 color variations?

Archive 01-12-2006 08:10 PM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>tfever</b><p>My Meyers looks diff than yours. Mine looks like in black and white only.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137125397.JPG">

Archive 01-12-2006 08:18 PM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>vintagecatcher</b><p>That's a great card. Let me know if you ever decide to sell it. It would look great in my Meyers' collection.<br /><br />Patrick

Archive 01-12-2006 08:44 PM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p><img src="http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/699/t206cobbauthcutfront8lo.jpg"> <img src="http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7591/t206orangecobbcut1ja.jpg"> <img src="http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/3426/t206reddcobbcut2wd.jpg"><br /><br /><br />My three "red" Cobbs<br />JimB

Archive 01-12-2006 08:51 PM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>Trevor Hocking</b><p>Here's the one I have kinda cool<br /><br /><a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4130/tinker8sr.jpg" border="0" width="633" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a>

Archive 01-12-2006 09:30 PM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>Wow, another REAL orange Cobb, cool card, I have an image of another (below)<br /><img src="http://centuryoldcards.com/images/t206kellybrownx2.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://centuryoldcards.com/images/t206cobborange.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I own the Kelley, but not the orange Cobb (I wish) <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 01-13-2006 04:20 AM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>Art M.</b><p>One of a few odd color Southern Leaguers:<br /><br /><img src="http://members.aol.com/rebelsart2000/Otey.jpg">

Archive 01-13-2006 07:37 AM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>joe brennan</b><p> It is really neat to see all the different colors on these cards. I would suppose that the printers let the runs go until they were almost out of color. Then they stopped the process, mixed true color into the batches and started again, leaving tons of variations. At the time they were printed, they never woulda thought that their work would be so highly scrutinized 100 years later. Reminds me of the depression glass era. Depression glass was made in several different colors. When a new color was wanted the color was almost emptied but not quite, then the new color was added. There are hundreds of variations because the first batches were mixed with the last of a different color. The glass was given away in laundry soap boxes and other forms. Like the cards, who knew they were going to be such sought after item 70 years later and their work judged so closely. Is this a fair thought on how all these color variations happened or are some of them scraps that were never meant to be put into circulation?<br><br>A scared man can't gamble and a jealous man can't work.

Archive 01-13-2006 08:10 AM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>Ed McCollum</b><p>Using a split fountain printing technique, like on the posters for different bands. Load a one color press with multiple colors along the print roller and start printing. The colors blend and move as they get squeezed together over the course of the run. When you have a brown muck, you stop the press, clean the roller, load the ink and start over again. Made for some great psychedelic posters for rock groups. And cheap too.

Archive 01-13-2006 08:46 AM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>fwk,<br />Mine seems to be missing some color under Cobb's right eye on the cheek that yours is not missing. I assumed it was due to a a lack of red, but now I am not sure.<br />JimB<br />P.S. Nice card!

Archive 01-13-2006 08:19 PM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137212342.JPG">

Archive 01-14-2006 10:08 AM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>Art M.</b><p><img src="http://members.aol.com/rebelsart2000/Donovan.jpg">

Archive 01-14-2006 10:18 AM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137262681.JPG"> <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137265728.JPG"> <br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137265778.JPG">

Archive 01-14-2006 12:12 PM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Art,<br />Wow, those Donovan's are cool. That is the first time I have seen 3 color variations on the same T206. Somebody posted a similar 3 color variation of Leaf Dimaggios a few months ago. I think they came from the Nagy collection, but were not in the auction.<br />JimB

Archive 01-16-2006 12:48 AM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>Art, <br /><br />Cool variations, I do have some orange variations but I like these, I kick my self for not buying a Willis that was in between the 2 colors shown, here my contribution:<br /><br /><img src="http://attic2cash.net/T206WillisPorts.jpg"><br /><br />Lee

Archive 01-16-2006 01:09 AM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>Jason</b><p>These colors are not variations. They are simply fades or shades of the intended colors used. I cannot believe people overpay for this kind of scrap. They should be viewed as misprint, miscut, oput of focus, etc.

Archive 01-16-2006 10:05 AM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>Who says we paid a premium for these cards? I have probably 6 cards with the wrong color and never once paid extra for it. Normally the common color variation such as orange for a red do not command a premium. You will also find bigger premium paid for the variety of factory mishaps "printers scrap" than for these color variations. To each there own.<br /><br />Lee<br />

Archive 01-16-2006 10:38 AM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Most of these are not fades, but printing mistakes where a layer of color was mistakenly not added. My guess is that if one asked the artist on the T206 orange Cobb (or any of these others) what s/he thought of it, s/he would say it was a printing mistake.<br />JimB

Archive 01-16-2006 11:07 AM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>All of the images posted were interesting, but the most unusual by far was Art's Donovan with blue background. Yellows and greens often interchange but that blue one seems extremely rare. Is that in fact the case?

Archive 01-16-2006 11:49 AM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>What I think on the Donovan is the normal card is Green. Green is made from blue and yellow. The yellow card on the left is missing the blue, and the blue card on the right is missing the yellow. The cool thing is all 3 look like they were intended to be that color.

Archive 01-16-2006 01:15 PM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>All the way back to 19th Century Lithography printing,<br />a 4 - color process is employed to create all the various<br />colors. The inks used in this process are Yellow, Magenta,<br />Cyan (blue), and Black. So, each card (or sheets of cards)<br />go thru 4 inking passes in order to produce the completed<br />cards.<br /><br />So, all these cards are simply printing errors and not true<br />"variations". However, they are really neat; especially the<br />two Donovan cards. I've had (and have seen several) Yellow<br /> ones before; but, never a Blue one.<br /><br />The Blue one is very unusual; since my understanding of this<br />color printing process, is that the Yellow ink is normally<br />the 1st inking pass in the printing process. And, in this case<br />the Yellow ink stage was obviously skipped. So, the Cyan ink<br />was applied, which would have normally resulted in the Green<br />background; but, since there was no Yellow.....Blue resulted.

Archive 01-16-2006 01:47 PM

Let's see color variations in the T206 set
 
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Excellent analysis Ted. My hunch was right that the blue one is extremely unusual.


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