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ls7plus 10-06-2016 01:18 PM

T210 Joe Jackson
 
The 1910 T210 Joe Jackson, graded "Ex (st)" went for just under $204,000 (with buyer's premium) in Stever Verkman's auction ending last night. Anyone care to express their thoughts re this sale, as opposed to the rather amazing heights newer card sales have achieved?

Best wishes and highest regards to all (whether you agree with my hard-_ss opinions or not,

Larry

bnorth 10-06-2016 01:33 PM

That amazingly beautiful card is several zeros past my price range. If I every buy a lottery ticket and win it would be the only stupid expensive card I would buy. Of course then I would have to get the rest of the set so it would not get lonely.:)

Epps 10-06-2016 01:49 PM

I'm surprised that it did not end higher as it is one of the nicest T210 Jacksons out there. The front is almost perfect. I was thinking $250,000-300,000, but I guess that the severe staining on the back could have deterred some buyers.

ls7plus 10-06-2016 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Epps (Post 1591556)
I'm surprised that it did not end higher as it is one of the nicest T210 Jacksons out there. The front is almost perfect. I was thinking $250,000-300,000, but I guess that the severe staining on the back could have deterred some buyers.

Can't disagree with either of the above. Should that card double in value just 3X in the next 24 years--a compound interest rate of merely 9% per year, it will be worth slightly over $1,600,000. Personally, I do not doubt that it will approach that figure. Interestingly, a guide I consider quite reliable indicates that in 1995, one in "Ex" condition could be had for just $3500-$4,000. Now where did I stash my time machine?!?!

Best to all, and may your collecting bring you joy and prosperity,

Larry

Leon 10-07-2016 07:07 AM

I think without the back staining you could have added more than 100k to the final price. Just a guess....

Jason 10-07-2016 07:33 AM

Seems cheap to me as it was a beautiful JJ example. I think it was a great buy. I agree the stain probably kept a few people off of it. That card is the Honus Wagner T206 of my collecting world. My reprint will have to continue to make do though:D

Jason 10-07-2016 07:39 AM

Regarding the OP's original question which is a good one. The relation to prices newer cards have reached as opposed to the JJ T210 rookie is very interesting to me. Im not in the postwar market but I see what you are saying. Rose and Reggie Jackson rookies are going for comparable prices to this obviously more rare T card. To each his own I suppose. I dont really understand the whole current 50's/60's card craze.

Baseball Rarities 10-07-2016 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason (Post 1591765)
The relation to prices newer cards have reached as opposed to the JJ T210 rookie is very interesting to me.

That is the "problem" with the card. It is not his rookie card. His 1909 E90-1, which shows him with the Philadelphia Athletics was issued before his T210 card.

Jason 10-07-2016 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities (Post 1591789)
That is the "problem" with the card. It is not his rookie card. His 1909 E90-1, which shows him with the Philadelphia Athletics was issued before his T210 card.

Thank you for the correction Kevin.

HRBAKER 10-07-2016 08:28 AM

Not a rookie but the image is so much better than the no-nose heavy lipstick E90-1.

Baseball Rarities 10-07-2016 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1591794)
Not a rookie but the image is so much better than the no-nose heavy lipstick E90-1.

Agreed.

mechanicalman 10-07-2016 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1591794)
Not a rookie but the image is so much better than the no-nose heavy lipstick E90-1.

+1. I don't own the card, but I think it has the least eye appeal of any card capable of 5 figures.

ullmandds 10-07-2016 11:25 AM

Agreed...quite possibly the ugliest rookie card of any blue chip pre war player. If I owned one I'd have sold it a long long time ago!!!!!! I'll prefer a cj any day of the week!!!

MattyC 10-07-2016 11:56 AM

I love the e90-1 Joe Jackson RC, the pose and color are fantastic to me. Much prefer the e90-1 rookie to the CJ, though I like the CJ, too.

ullmandds 10-07-2016 12:30 PM

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to each their own!!!!!

ullmandds 10-07-2016 12:31 PM

speaking of photos taken way to soon after rhino plasty...has the original photo been sited for the rookie e90-1 jj pose????

brianp-beme 10-07-2016 01:18 PM

The E90-1 Joe Jackson is a cool pose...if they just hadn't messed up his face so much it would be a great looking card.

Brian

JustinD 10-07-2016 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ls7plus (Post 1591699)
Can't disagree with either of the above. Should that card double in value just 3X in the next 24 years--a compound interest rate of merely 9% per year, it will be worth slightly over $1,600,000. Personally, I do not doubt that it will approach that figure. Interestingly, a guide I consider quite reliable indicates that in 1995, one in "Ex" condition could be had for just $3500-$4,000. Now where did I stash my time machine?!?!

Best to all, and may your collecting bring you joy and prosperity,

Larry


I think the more likely scenario will be a "very" similar looking card will appear without this stain after a trip to dick towles and sell for a 100k more in a PSA holder in 24 months.

MattyC 10-07-2016 06:57 PM

It would have made that trip already.


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