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Runscott 04-07-2014 09:59 AM

Mantle signature - 1953
 
No trick here - this is supposedly a 1953 Mantle signature on a baseball. It could be that I'm just not familiar with this particular Mantle style, so just posting the sig and not outing the seller and starting a ruckus.

I don't do this often so hopefully you all can bear with me for this one, and I can learn something:

shelly 04-07-2014 07:34 PM

Scott, never seen that signiture before.

Runscott 04-07-2014 08:26 PM

Thanks Shelly. I'm kind of amazed at the lack of response given the 'I need help with my Mantle' posts that we see here constantly. It's not like I ask this sort of thing very often. But your response is appreciated and in the future I will send these questions by other means.

ATP 04-07-2014 08:33 PM

I don't specifically recall seeing one like that before, but I have a couple from 1954-1956 and they were morphing a lot during that time. I think one of mine even looks like he missed a letter it was signed so quickly. This one does look to have some sloppy speed to it.

Runscott 04-07-2014 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATP (Post 1263540)
I don't specifically recall seeing one like that before, but I have a couple from 1954-1956 and they were morphing a lot during that time. I think one of mine even looks like he missed a letter it was signed so quickly. This one does look to have some sloppy speed to it.

A while back someone posted a Gehrig that I thought looked horrible, but David A educated me that it was just a hurried signature. I was wondering if this was something similar. I've been studying early to mid-50's Mantles for a while now, and while I've seen some that were worse than others, nothing like this.

I asked the question because it was an item I was interested in bidding on if authentic, but at this point I have decided to leave it alone.

Lordstan 04-07-2014 08:54 PM

Scott,
Part of the reason I didn't reply is that I can't clearly make out where the "Mickey" starts. Is part of the "M" cut off?
Mark

Runscott 04-07-2014 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordstan (Post 1263555)
Scott,
Part of the reason I didn't reply is that I can't clearly make out where the "Mickey" starts. Is part of the "M" cut off?
Mark

That's the entire signature.

shelly 04-07-2014 10:46 PM

Scott, Iconic auctions has a 51 or 53 autograph.That looks nothing like this. Rushed or not it just does not look like he signed it.

Lordstan 04-08-2014 03:31 AM

Scott,
In that you, I don't like it either..

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MikeKam 04-08-2014 03:37 AM

The "Mantle" part looks similar to clubhouse examples, the "Mickey" part is just off.

daves_resale_shop 04-08-2014 06:51 AM

Mantle
 
Too many red flags on this one... Even if it is right and rushed I would hold out for something a little nicer on the eyes

Runscott 04-08-2014 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeKam (Post 1263605)
The "Mantle" part looks similar to clubhouse examples, the "Mickey" part is just off.

It makes sense that it would be clubhouse - I'll let the seller know.

Thanks, all, for your thoughts on this.

Runscott 04-08-2014 03:15 PM

Final follow-up on this: the authenticator looked at it again and is sticking with his original opinion. No surprise, but as discussed in the past - once an auction house has chosen an authenticator, they really have to either always stay with the authenticator's opinion, or get rid of the authenticator altogether. So, no problem with the auction house on this one.

thetruthisoutthere 04-08-2014 04:27 PM

Not a great photograph, but i think it is authentic.

Runscott 04-08-2014 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere (Post 1263851)
Not a great photograph, but i think it is authentic.

Chris, if it's not a great photo, then it's certainly not a great autograph.

The photograph is crystal clear.

thetruthisoutthere 04-08-2014 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1263854)
Chris, if it's not a great photo, then it's certainly not a great autograph.

The photograph is crystal clear.

You asked if it was "authentic."

You didn't ask if it was a "great autograph."

Runscott 04-08-2014 05:35 PM

You said it was a bad photograph. I thought that was part of your reasoning for the opinion you gave.

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shelly 04-08-2014 05:51 PM

I have to say that I would pass big time. Authentic or not I would not buy it. I have looked at signitures from that time and nothing comes close.
Chris show me something even close to that.

Big Dave 04-08-2014 06:21 PM

Garbage....


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