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Luke 05-25-2015 11:56 AM

Psa 4?
 
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I know we've had a million of these threads before, so I apologize, but this one is incredible:

Luke 05-25-2015 11:57 AM

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And here's my 1.5 for comparison

pokerplyr80 05-25-2015 12:01 PM

That does look a little rough for a 4. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see it listed on ebay with "nice card for the grade" in the description.

Econteachert205 05-25-2015 12:03 PM

Could be marketed as an inexpensive way to up your registry set.

HRBAKER 05-25-2015 12:27 PM

It's the very rare "It's snowing in summer" variation.

Expertise worth paying for.

1880nonsports 05-25-2015 03:46 PM

well
 
you should see the N162 6's and 7's with nearly the same amount of loss in Heritage's last big auction. Makes me crazier than I already am.

Joshchisox08 05-25-2015 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeLyon (Post 1414696)
I know we've had a million of these threads before, so I apologize, but this one is incredible:

How the hell is that a 4 ? Again PSA 4 at their best.

insccollectibles 05-25-2015 06:00 PM

That is one of the roughest 4's I've seen. Also what makes some of the PSA cases look like that?

Luke 05-25-2015 06:18 PM

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Another good one I just found

4815162342 05-25-2015 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by insccollectibles (Post 1414780)
...what makes some of the PSA cases look like that?


It's a mylar insert.

Econteachert205 05-25-2015 06:25 PM

Griffith looks like it has a pinhole above his head?

Taxman 05-25-2015 06:56 PM

Case
 
Are you sure the psa holder has not been cracked open and card replaced? Bottom of case looks frosted due to being opened.

swarmee 05-25-2015 08:32 PM

It is possible that the specks flaked off after it was graded, due to being poorly stored.

1952boyntoncollector 05-25-2015 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1414698)
That does look a little rough for a 4. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see it listed on ebay with "nice card for the grade" in the description.

also a 'can get re-graded a half point higher' nice color as well....

KCRfan1 05-25-2015 11:29 PM

It looks like the serial numbers on both PSA examples shown are very low numbers. So, the cards were graded very early in PSA's existence, and they likely were more lenient with grading. If the cards were resubmitted now, they probably come back as 2's.

1952boyntoncollector 05-26-2015 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KCRfan1 (Post 1414847)
It looks like the serial numbers on both PSA examples shown are very low numbers. So, the cards were graded very early in PSA's existence, and they likely were more lenient with grading. If the cards were resubmitted now, they probably come back as 2's.

funny there are many ebay listings where the seller states the cards are undergraded because they were very old grades and PSA was more stringent in the beginning and suggest you can get the card re-graded higher possibly..

glynparson 05-26-2015 04:53 AM

Any listing
 
stating they were stricter in the beginning is a flat out lie. Both services have many early graded cards that do not fall within their current standards. Many "Merkle" graded SGC cards are no where near the quality they are assigned and would not cross to current SGC standards. PSA is very inconsistent on T206 grading, even more so on the early grades. And even more so on T cards graded 1-4.

Leon 05-26-2015 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by glynparson (Post 1414858)
stating they were stricter in the beginning is a flat out lie. Both services have many early graded cards that do not fall within their current standards. Many "Merkle" graded SGC cards are no where near the quality they are assigned and would not cross to current SGC standards. PSA is very inconsistent on T206 grading, even more so on the early grades. And even more so on T cards graded 1-4.

I agree. The card in the original post looks like a 2 to me. Except for the registry guys the mantra is always the same, buy the card, not the holder. Don't buy graded cards blindly unless you are only buying a number to get ahead in a game. IF you are playing the number game, then who cares, buy the highest grade you can and win, win, win!!

Taxman 05-26-2015 07:40 AM

Case
 
This flip was issued recently or within the last 6 years. Im not sure the flip and card go together as I believe the case has been cracked and card switched. Why would someone do that for such a low dollar card? Not sure but people steal grapes everyday.

Thromdog 05-26-2015 09:20 AM

Griffith
 
That Griffith card sold Sept 3, 2008. Same card, same PSA identifier.

If broken out and replaced, had to have been long ago.....

Sean 05-26-2015 12:18 PM

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I think PSA just missed this one. As everyone here knows, they have been known to do so.

Here's one of mine that they graded in 2009:


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poorlydrawncat 05-26-2015 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1414938)
I think PSA just missed this one. As everyone here knows, they have been known to do so.

Here's one of mine that they graded in 2009:


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I love the .5 next to that 3, it feels so deliberate. I like to think that there was an argument over whether it deserved to be a 3 or a 4 that just couldn't be resolved.

jerrys 05-26-2015 09:08 PM

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How about this $26K Anson and the $5K Beecher?



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