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Archive 12-19-2006 06:53 AM

1911 C46 Imperial Tobacco Canadian Issue
 
Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>Does anyone know the relative scarcity of the C46 Imperial set as compared to say T206? I do not see them for sale very often. Perhaps because this is a Canadian issue. Look forward to some replies.<br />Thanks

Archive 12-19-2006 06:58 AM

1911 C46 Imperial Tobacco Canadian Issue
 
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>There was just a complete set of them that sold in Leland's auction this past Friday, and a bunch of them that closed on ebay last night.

Archive 12-19-2006 07:29 AM

1911 C46 Imperial Tobacco Canadian Issue
 
Posted By: <b>bruce Dorskind</b><p><br />There have been 246 cards graded by PSA. 103 of which have been graded 7 <br />and above. SGC has graded 145 examples, only 18 of which have graded 84<br />and above.<br /><br />Bruce

Archive 12-19-2006 07:56 AM

1911 C46 Imperial Tobacco Canadian Issue
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Only 90 cards....but, it is a tough set to complete.<br /><br />HOFers are Joe Kelley and "Iron Man" McGinnity<br />Chick Gandil is tough to find since the "Black Sox" collectors buy him.<br /><br />Ray Demmitt (Montreal) and Bill O'Hara (Toronto) have a premium value<br /> (more than these two cards deserve in this set), because of a "carry-<br />over" effect from their T206 variations.<br /><br />T-Rex TED<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/c46demmitt.jpg">

Archive 12-19-2006 08:19 AM

1911 C46 Imperial Tobacco Canadian Issue
 
Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>O'Hara also carries a premium because he is card #1, ala Pafko, and is hard to find in nice condition. I built the set years ago and it wasn't particularly hard.

Archive 12-19-2006 08:44 AM

1911 C46 Imperial Tobacco Canadian Issue
 
Posted By: <b>Tim Newcomb</b><p>This set has quietly taken off in the past three years. In early 2004 I built most of it very quickly and cheaply, mostly on ebay. In fact I accumulated 75 of them, including Gandil, Kelley, and McGinnity, for about $1000 (average condition weak VG). <br /><br />But they have since dried up dramatically and I've been stunned by the prices I'm seeing lately. The Leland's set went for about $6000 (well over $60 per card) including juice and it wasn't a super high grade set by any means. <br /><br />I always thought of C46 as generally paralleling 1910-11 Obaks in scarcity and price but I think it has pulled a bit ahead of them. <br /><br />Tim

Archive 12-19-2006 09:05 AM

1911 C46 Imperial Tobacco Canadian Issue
 
Posted By: <b>RayB</b><p>As coincidence would have it I picked up one of these last night raw (VG or therabouts). I know little about the issue. Is there a writeup available on it somewhere? What league of it's day are these cards representing?<br />Any help is greatly appreciated.<br />Email me if that works better.<br />aja4rayb@msn.com<br />RayB

Archive 12-19-2006 09:06 AM

1911 C46 Imperial Tobacco Canadian Issue
 
Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>Thanks guys for the replies. Some interesting information about this set that I was unaware of. This message board is always an education. <br />Thanks much

Archive 12-19-2006 08:26 PM

1911 C46 Imperial Tobacco Canadian Issue
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Lindholme</b><p><br />It used to be that the cards in this set simply were not popular outside of the key 5 cards mentioned earlier. That leaves a lot of cards that no one seemed to want outside of a single copy for type card collectors.<br /><br />If they are seldom offered,the next logical conclusion is that they are rare.<br /><br />Where would you rate the rarity among similar eras (in the E96 range is my guess)<br /><br />The value...For commons in VG would 30 dollars be in the right range?<br />What about the market for the 5 "bigger" cards?<br /><br />Canadian brethren, it would also be easy to assume that these cards appear more frequently at Canadian card shows, auctions. Is that the case?<br /><br />Thanks<br />Brian L<br />familytoad


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