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tedzan 02-02-2018 10:01 AM

Double error on PSA's flip of T206 Liefield card
 
Hey T206 guys....check this out......

Another day, another PSA "screw up"....this time a double boo-boo !

The back of this Lefty Leifield (pitching) card is actually a Brown HINDU.

Also, the real "no-no", besides PSA wrongly identifying this card as the "Batting" pose,
is the fact that Leifield (batting) was NEVER PRINTED with the Red HINDU back (this is
an impossible front/back combo).


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ifieldT206.jpg




TED Z

T206 Reference
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timn1 02-02-2018 10:20 AM

grading by Braille?
 
BATTING???

Priceless, Ted-

Tim

tedzan 02-02-2018 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timn1 (Post 1744343)
BATTING???

Priceless, Ted-

Tim


Hi Tim

An occasional single screw-up by PSA is understandable, given the 1000's of cards they grade each day.

But, multiple "boo-boos" on one card is a little too much.


Tim, will we see you at the March Philly Show ?


TED Z

T206 Reference
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bobbyw8469 02-02-2018 12:08 PM

In PSA's defense, doesn't the SUBMITTER chose what to call the card? I realize it is PSA's job to catch this sort of thing, but the submitter is more than likely the one who called the card that.

Sean 02-02-2018 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1744382)
In PSA's defense, doesn't the SUBMITTER chose what to call the card? I realize it is PSA's job to catch this sort of thing, but the submitter is more than likely the one who called the card that.

Interesting. So if I call my Heinie Wagner a Honus Wagner, I can at least increase the population by one? :D

bobbyw8469 02-02-2018 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1744428)
Interesting. So if I call my Heinie Wagner a Honus Wagner, I can at least increase the population by one? :D

I would pick a card a little less high profile. Like one of the 8,376,982,576 other ones.

Gradedcardman 02-02-2018 03:49 PM

It happens
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1744337)
Hey T206 guys....check this out......

Another day, another PSA "screw up"....this time a double boo-boo !

The back of this Lefty Leifield (pitching) card is actually a Brown HINDU.

Also, the real "no-no", besides PSA wrongly identifying this card as the "Batting" pose,
is the fact that Leifield (batting) was NEVER PRINTED with the Red HINDU back (this is
an impossible front/back combo).


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ifieldT206.jpg




TED Z

T206 Reference
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Stuff happens

Rhotchkiss 02-02-2018 04:19 PM

Regardless of what PSA calls it, that is a great looking 2 Ted.

RedsFan1941 02-02-2018 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradedcardman (Post 1744451)
Stuff happens

exactly. a data entry error. in a perfect world, it wouldn't happen. but it does.

swarmee 02-02-2018 07:48 PM

PSA will correct it for free if you email them with the subject MECHANICAL ERROR and they'll pay shipping both ways. I've probably sent back 15 cards for mechanical errors in the four years I've been grading. Some were OPCs labeled Topps, some were wrong variants, some were wrong card name, etc. Some were N43s that were labeled N28s.

slipk1068 02-02-2018 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1744337)
Hey T206 guys....check this out......

Another day, another PSA "screw up"....this time a double boo-boo !

The back of this Lefty Leifield (pitching) card is actually a Brown HINDU.

Also, the real "no-no", besides PSA wrongly identifying this card as the "Batting" pose,
is the fact that Leifield (batting) was NEVER PRINTED with the Red HINDU back (this is
an impossible front/back combo).


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ifieldT206.jpg




TED Z

T206 Reference
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This card reminds me of Tommy John pitching for the Yankees in the 80's. The ball was hit to the box and he made 3 errors on the play.

Sean 02-02-2018 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slipk1068 (Post 1744510)
This card reminds me of Tommy John pitching for the Yankees in the 80's. The ball was hit to the box and he made 3 errors on the play.

I remember that play: 1- He dropped a ground ball
2- he then threw it down the rightfield line
3- the RF threw home to try for the runner. John cut the ball off and threw wildly to the plate, allowing the batter (who had gone to third) to score. A classic "Little League" home run.

t206fix 02-02-2018 10:56 PM

1 Attachment(s)
SGC screws up as well!

Leon 02-03-2018 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1744504)
PSA will correct it for free if you email them with the subject MECHANICAL ERROR and they'll pay shipping both ways. I've probably sent back 15 cards for mechanical errors in the four years I've been grading. Some were OPCs labeled Topps, some were wrong variants, some were wrong card name, etc. Some were N43s that were labeled N28s.

Mechanical error? What do they use robots now? Why not just call it what it is, human error?

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glynparson 02-03-2018 08:46 AM

DAta entry
 
Data entry errors happen at all 3 of the major companies. heck i once saw a 1956 tops warren spahn in a 1996 tops chrome allen Iverson holder. Stuff like this doesn't get me all worked up because like i said it is a data entry error. if you saw how the systems are set up its easy to click on the wrong one sometimes. Hell i know i made some mistakes on data entry, and i know a lot. it wasn't through ignorance usually but simple error.

bobbyw8469 02-03-2018 08:47 AM

me·chan·i·cal
məˈkanək(ə)l/

(of a person or action) not having or showing thought or spontaneity; automatic.
"she stopped the mechanical brushing of her hair"

I don't know Leon...I guess it fits.....the workers at PSA are taking for granted that the person submitting the card is actually submitting what they claim to be submitting. They AUTOMATICALLY assumed the card submitted was the card claimed. But yes, you are right...mechanical error...human error....same thing. People (multiple) screwed up.

Leon 02-03-2018 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1744625)
me·chan·i·cal
məˈkanək(ə)l/

(of a person or action) not having or showing thought or spontaneity; automatic.
"she stopped the mechanical brushing of her hair"

I don't know Leon...I guess it fits.....the workers at PSA are taking for granted that the person submitting the card is actually submitting what they claim to be submitting. They AUTOMATICALLY assumed the card submitted was the card claimed. But yes, you are right...mechanical error...human error....same thing. People (multiple) screwed up.

It is a human error any way you slice it. All companies (by virtue of people) and people make them.

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Aquarian Sports Cards 02-03-2018 09:50 AM

This is a good-natured jibe:

Ted, who is "Liefield?"

Even the best make mistakes!

Paul S 02-03-2018 11:17 AM

del

timn1 02-03-2018 09:52 PM

Philly
 
Dang, Ted, I was there in December but you were nowhere to be found! I don’t think I’ll make it for March, but there’s always the National.

Tim

Ps. Go Iggles!


Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1744381)
Hi Tim

An occasional single screw-up by PSA is understandable, given the 1000's of cards they grade each day.

But, multiple "boo-boos" on one card is a little too much.


Tim, will we see you at the March Philly Show ?


TED Z

T206 Reference
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tedzan 02-04-2018 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timn1 (Post 1744858)
Dang, Ted, I was there in December but you were nowhere to be found! I don’t think I’ll make it for March, but there’s always the National.

Tim

Ps. Go Iggles!


Hi Tim

We had a family gathering in December; therefore, I skipped the Show.

Well, I hope to see you in Cleveland this Summer.

Take care,

Go Eagles,



TED Z

T206 Reference
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Pat R 02-04-2018 09:54 AM

1 Attachment(s)
It's not in their database but whoever owns it might have had it corrected.

Attachment 304441

Pat R 03-02-2018 09:55 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1744382)
In PSA's defense, doesn't the SUBMITTER chose what to call the card? I realize it is PSA's job to catch this sort of thing, but the submitter is more than likely the one who called the card that.

Not necessarily true I think many of them are an error on PSA's end
when they do the label. I submitted this card and it was correct
on the submission form.

Attachment 307324
Attachment 307326

and there's another one with the same error on ebay that was probably
a labeling error too.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T20...IAAOSwan9amHDx

swarmee 03-02-2018 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 1744933)
It's not in their database but whoever owns it might have had it corrected.

Attachment 304441

I reported it to them. But the new owner probably sent it back in for mech error reholder.

Leon 03-04-2018 06:09 PM

It's the scarce CRandall missing the C variation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 1753297)
Not necessarily true I think many of them are an error on PSA's end
when they do the label. I submitted this card and it was correct
on the submission form.

Attachment 307324
Attachment 307326

and there's another one with the same error on ebay that was probably
a labeling error too.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T20...IAAOSwan9amHDx



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