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cincicards 10-30-2009 09:09 AM

*Shoeless Joe Jackson* White Sox Pinback
 
Can anybody confirm my suspicions that these pin are fakes?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

GrayGhost 10-30-2009 09:38 AM

Nice shiny new fakes they look like to me. Shoeless Joe in that shape? FAKE ID VENTURE.

cincicards 10-30-2009 09:42 AM

The Real McCoy's:

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2006/932.html

GrayGhost 10-30-2009 10:06 AM

Look at the backs......

batsballsbases 10-30-2009 12:45 PM

Pinbacks
 
Randall,
I emailed the person as soon as they came on and told him they were fake. The size is wrong 1 3/4 vs real 1 1/4 and the back paper is wrong.

jcmtiger 10-30-2009 10:19 PM

I would like to think they are real, but they are just to nice.

Joe

Ladder7 10-31-2009 08:05 AM

He could have soaked em in tea for a few minutes. Scammers can be such slackers at times.

batsballsbases 10-31-2009 11:26 PM

Pinbacks are Fake
 
After much research and taking a very long look at the pictures. These pins are most definitely fake. As I stated before the size is wrong for the issue. The correct size is 1 1/4 inch. The real ones have no black edging going around the curl of the pin. And last the words The whitehead and hoag co. Newark N.J. are printed very small around the lower section of the pin on the real ones.

GrayGhost 10-31-2009 11:38 PM

Well, to my friend who saw them and I, the BACKS should be the dead giveway. Hopefully the guy will state they may be reproductions, or some may read this, and retract bids.

Leon 11-01-2009 08:01 AM

nice catch
 
Nice catch guys. I bookmarked them before I saw this thread this morning:D. The seller has some other high end stuff so my guess is that unless he puts something in the descriptions, folks that don't read this board, are going to be out quite a bit of money...

batsballsbases 11-01-2009 09:45 AM

Pinbacks
 
Thanks Leon,
Here is a little more info taken from the Hake Steckler Book. I guess you can make up your own mind:D:D

Jacklitsch 11-01-2009 10:42 AM

Not sure I can agree, with certainty, that they are not real.

While not purporting to be a pin expert I question why, if in fact they are forgeries, the size is different and the paper insert is in a completely different style.

Seems to me that a sophisticated forger, having duplicated the obverse to perfection, would have given attention to those discrepancies.

batsballsbases 11-01-2009 10:53 AM

Pinbacks
 
Hi Steve,
If you can come up with any other info showing why my info is wrong Im all ears. I do alot with pins and have spoken with many of the Guys I know who are in the "the know" and they all agree they ARE FAKE. By the way Steve I have this little bridge Im selling .................. :D:D:D;););)

batsballsbases 11-05-2009 03:16 PM

Fake pins
 
The pins have been taken down .As a follow up My very good friend Rob Lifson sent me an email confirming what I thought from the start the pin scans were taken from Robs advertising post cards and copied right down to all the black marks and other small marks. Rob made some calls and in a flash they were removed!:eek: Thanks Rob always a pleasure! Al

canjond 11-06-2009 06:27 AM

What are the advertising postcards? Never heard of them before.


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