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bn2cardz 02-10-2018 10:06 AM

w-unc King of Clubs John McGraw
 
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I have had the following a Red w-unc King of Clubs John McGraw for a few years now.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4570/...e7450f92_c.jpg

Recently someone reached out to me with a scan of a card they have had for quite some time and asked if I had anymore info. Theirs is tan (basically cardboard color with black print on it). I have linked it to this post. I really don't have any more info on this set. I know that I own the red tinted one, but other than that I know nothing about this set.

Does anyone have any more info on this set?

Leon 02-10-2018 10:11 AM

He reached out to me too. At first I thought it was a W560 but then looked again and it's not, of course. Also, based on the W560 id I didn't like the cardstock. But with it being the other issue I think it's fine. My guess is it is just another color.

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bn2cardz 02-10-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1746783)
He reached out to me too. At first I thought it was a W560 but then looked again and it's not, of course. Also, based on the W560 id I didn't like the cardstock. But with it being the other issue I think it's fine. My guess is it is just another color.

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Without seeing a scan with the original question he posed I suggested he look at the w560 set as well. Once he proved the scan, as you noticed as well, it obviously wasn't w560.

glchen 02-10-2018 11:55 AM

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There's a thread where Adam catalogues this entire playing card set, but I could not find it. I found a similar thread here: Link that shows some of the other cards in this set. I have four of the Ruth's with slight color variations.

rhettyeakley 02-11-2018 12:45 AM

Mixed subject set that (as far as baseball goes includes Babe Ruth (AD), Bob Meusel 6C), Tris Speaker (9S), and John McGraw (KC).)

Set also includes boxers and actors as far as we know (pictures are some that I have picked up over the years)...

http://starsofthediamond.com/playing...ripjohnson.jpg

http://starsofthediamond.com/playing...stripgroup.jpg

Keep in mind there is another set that appears to be all acors that have oval pictures in the middle (not square) that appear to be from a completely different set.

Exhibitman 02-11-2018 08:01 AM

The cards were issued in vertical strips of ten. Sometimes you find a card with a long top or bottom as a result of being the end card. It is a very hard set to assemble.

That Ruth run is sick...

Here is the speaker:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...peaker%202.jpg

here is one of the long cards:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...20SGC%2020.jpg

ETA: couldn't any of these kids use scissors?

triwak 02-11-2018 11:16 AM

Funny how SGC called a club, a spade.

Leon 02-11-2018 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by triwak (Post 1747140)
Funny how SGC called a club, a spade.

Sometimes you just have to call a spade club a spade club

Spartan 02-12-2018 01:50 PM

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Here is the Meusel..... and another is on Ebay to my knowledge.

Exhibitman 02-14-2018 07:05 AM

Looks like the Meusel I used to own.

Spartan 02-14-2018 08:42 AM

I believe it is....... think I actually bought it unslabbed from an auction site, not Ebay. I may have a couple 'raw' boxer cards... maybe even a Tris Speaker, I'll have to check and post those pics for the record.

Spartan 02-15-2018 08:34 PM

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A few more ungraded...

Franklin-Basil 02-20-2018 09:16 AM

thanks for the intel
 
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thanks Leon and original poster for the info - much appreciated

the card was found in a 1929 book on the stock market that my grandfather left behind and it was being used as a book mark. the book is far more valuable to me than the card.

I'm glad I saved it - sold most of my bb cards in the late 80's to pay for college but kept a few of my favorite players. I will be trading this in for a few bucks and a 1955 Jackie Robinson which is the one card I wish I hadn't sold.

I am a collector of many things but baseball cards are way down on my list

it is interesting to me the different names given the set by the grading co's- as evidenced by a few of the pics is this thread and the other on cut cards

they also seem to have different stock - see mine below. looking at one of the Ruth's I see similar stock but maybe reversed?

because these cards were used in a game I would guess the survival rate is relatively low.

in the past few weeks I have seen a number of them for sale - boxers, actors, and a few baseball players. The Jack Johnson is cool, dig that. Currently there's a Tris Speaker for sale....I sent my card to SGC and am waiting on it's return

Franklin-Basil 02-20-2018 09:18 AM

forgot to mention
 
interesting discussion on the other thread about trimming - I just couldn't do it...I think it's part of the character and will let the next person decide..

Franklin-Basil 02-20-2018 09:19 AM

rev
 
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reverse

autograf 02-20-2018 01:07 PM

The Nonsports entries in this set appear to be artwork from the American Caramel E123 set.............

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=24082

Exhibitman 02-20-2018 01:15 PM

A lot of the boxers are W580

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...on%201.tif.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...%20Johnson.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...olgast.tif.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...%20Wolgast.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...an%201.tif.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...20Sullivan.jpg

Franklin-Basil 02-20-2018 02:41 PM

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Cool !!! thanks for sharing

Leon 02-22-2018 03:14 PM

So folks will know, my understanding is SGC didn't like the McGraw cardstock either. Cardstock is one of the big indicators in pre-wwII cards...

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brianp-beme 03-14-2018 08:28 PM

Better late than never
 
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Here is my McGraw that I have had for at least 5 years. It has a different color front (grayish), and is tan on back, a two-toned combo which I don't remember seeing on other strip card sets before. It seems like this set is special in that way.

Brian


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