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Leon 11-12-2016 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 1601464)
I never heard a thing, not even a thanks for bringing it to their attention!:mad:

It seem she has immunity and anything that is unethical/suspect, she has no trouble getting away with.

I really hope someone, somewhere is pursuing her and looking to put her out of business for good!

The problem is is that she isn't leaving too many victims (financially speaking) as she gives immediate refunds when questioned. It's all of those other ones who will eventually find out they have a bad card that will take it on the chin. It is truly a shame. All we can hope for is that she gets the Karma coming to her. I believe she will..

http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/authe...ems?rmvSB=true

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orly57 11-12-2016 07:49 AM

I have seen battlefield's handy-work on ebay several times. She photoshops the cards and makes them look like 9s. I have actually followed some of her auctions just to see how much some unsuspecting fool will pay for it. I agree that it is wrong and disgusting what she does. Having have said that, I gotta say, a fool and his money are soon parted. I am sorry, but if you are buying an ungraded card on ebay (of all places) from a seller with horrible feedback you dont get a whole lot of pity from me. And the thing of it is these are often high-dollar cards that probablt aren't being purchased by some Joe Schmo newbie. If you are dropping 6k for a Hank Aaron rookie, you probably arent buying your first baseball card. If your greed blinds you and you think you found some lotto ticket on ebay and are willing to assume the risk, you really dont have a ton of sympathy from me. The reality is, if a card looks like a $30,000 psa 8, and the seller decided not to spend a few bucks on grading it, the odds are it has already been broken out of an authentic or low-grade holder. I am in no way justifying what she does, in fact, i think it is tantamount to theft, but dont buy a Louis Vuitton on Broadway for $30 and go crying that it is a fake.

1952boyntoncollector 11-12-2016 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orly57 (Post 1601586)
I have seen battlefield's handy-work on ebay several times. She photoshops the cards and makes them look like 9s. I have actually followed some of her auctions just to see how much some unsuspecting fool will pay for it. I agree that it is wrong and disgusting what she does. Having have said that, I gotta say, a fool and his money are soon parted. I am sorry, but if you are buying an ungraded card on ebay (of all places) from a seller with horrible feedback you dont get a whole lot of pity from me. And the thing of it is these are often high-dollar cards that probablt aren't being purchased by some Joe Schmo newbie. If you are dropping 6k for a Hank Aaron rookie, you probably arent buying your first baseball card. If your greed blinds you and you think you found some lotto ticket on ebay and are willing to assume the risk, you really dont have a ton of sympathy from me. The reality is, if a card looks like a $30,000 psa 8, and the seller decided not to spend a few bucks on grading it, the odds are it has already been broken out of an authentic or low-grade holder. I am in no way justifying what she does, in fact, i think it is tantamount to theft, but dont buy a Louis Vuitton on Broadway for $30 and go crying that it is a fake.

so true...con artists make their money but people who are greedy....if someone is offering you 18% interest on your money with no risk...guess what its a scam

Leon 11-14-2016 05:07 PM

I wonder how many winners of these 1000 auctions will be defrauded? 50%? :o
http://www.ebay.com/sch/battlefield0...p2047675.l2562

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1601590)
so true...con artists make their money but people who are greedy....if someone is offering you 18% interest on your money with no risk...guess what its a scam

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ezez420 11-21-2016 04:06 PM

Contact Arnold Diaz. He may help. That would be great.
Pix11.com/investigates


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Leon 11-22-2016 07:48 AM

at least the count is down to only 167 possibly fraudulent listings. It's gettnig better.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/battlefield0...562&rmvSB=true

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezez420 (Post 1604087)
Contact Arnold Diaz. He may help. That would be great.
Pix11.com/investigates


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kevinlenane 11-22-2016 04:01 PM

She is quite bold but of course Ebay doesnt want to ditch a high volume high revenue seller customer. Here's a fun way to plunge the depths of her audacity. 1. View all negative feedback, 2. sort view to show "200" 3. copy a high value card title like "HANK AARON 1954 TOPPS #128 - RC" 4. hit control F to use the find function and paste the title in 5. See how many times she has sold the same card to try to find a sucker who won't immediately grade it in the return window.

Kind of amazing actually. The highest value cards tend to pop up 4-6 times in the space a year in the negative results. Volume is how the best scamsters hide all their fraud.

Pat R 11-23-2016 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeLyon (Post 1595478)
So, she just won the trimmed Old Mill Cy Young from PWCC, popped it out, photo-shopped it, and re-listed:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...oAAOSwPCVX7~Yt

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...sAAOSwn7JYCaXg

Well it looks like the buyer sent it back and now it's re-listed again.http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...AAAOSwo4pYNn5A

1952boyntoncollector 11-24-2016 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 1604902)
Well it looks like the buyer sent it back and now it's re-listed again.http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...AAAOSwo4pYNn5A

the collecting world for that type of card is pretty small and you would think everyone already has seen that card by now. I not sure why people just dont bid a psa 1/authentic raw price on it especially when seeing the negative ebay comments.

It is fun to see some of the 'shocked' buyer comments who think they bought a legit $1000 or whatever card and believe they are getting a card worth 1000s more....

Negative feedback rating CARD IMAGE WAS ALTERED, IGNORED EMAILS, TOOK 2 WEEKS FOR REFUND, STAY AWAY!!!!!! Buyer: t***y ( 1162Red star icon for feedback score in between 1,000 to 4,999)
During past 6 months Feedback conversation


Reply by battlefield0516 (Aug-21-16 19:20):
You & others spreading these lies can expect a slander lawsuit to be filed soon!

SANDY KOUFAX 1955 TOPPS #123 - RC - DODGERS - NRMINT-MINT+ BREATHTAKING!!! (#142067923901)



Looking forward to that slander lawsuit..


I guess love is a battlefield.

PhillipAbbott79 11-24-2016 11:23 AM

The low dollar sales mask the high dollar fraud listings from a percentage perspective.

I can think of one way to stop the problem. If everyone ponies up 2 or 3 bucks and wins the low dollar cards and then leaves a negative feed back his percentage would drop, and he would lose a lot of credibility with Ebay.

Sometimes the only way to fight problems is with numbers. I would be in if we want to get a group of people together to help solve the problem.

Peter_Spaeth 11-24-2016 11:37 AM

LOL

Negative feedback rating SOLD ME TRIMMED CARDS TOTALING $3000 WOULD NOT RESPOND TO MESSAGES UNTRUSTWORTHY l***i ( 1023Red star icon for feedback score in between 1,000 to 4,999) During past month


◾Reply by battlefield0516 (Nov-15-16 08:11):
This is false. Card was purchased from one of the top auction houses in the U.S.

MICKEY MANTLE 1958 TOPPS #150 - NEW YORK YANKEES - MINT CONDITION!!! (#142119120905) US $995.00 View Item MICKEY MANTLE 1958 TOPPS #150 - NEW YORK YANKEES - MINT CONDITION!!!


Negative feedback rating SOLD ME TRIMMED CARDS TOTALING $3000 WOULD NOT RESPOND TO MESSAGES UNTRUSTWORTHY l***i ( 1023Red star icon for feedback score in between 1,000 to 4,999) During past month


◾Reply by battlefield0516 (Nov-15-16 08:11):
This is false. Card was purchased from one of the top auction houses in the U.S.

MICKEY MANTLE 1959 TOPPS #10 - NEW YORK YANKEES - MINT CONDITION!!! (#131940660779)

Sean 11-26-2016 12:16 PM

She has some amazing T206 cards for sale right now. Cobbs, Cy Young, etc. Of course none of them are graded, and the scans are really bright.

I'm sure that no one here will buy them, but I would really like to see scans of the cards after the buyer receives them.

PS- The Young was sold on Oct.25, and it's back already.

njdunkin1 11-26-2016 12:29 PM

Some of these new ones look extremely small! I feel really bad for the buyers who aren't aware of BF's bad rep!

Mountaineer1999 11-26-2016 12:58 PM

I bid on the Lumley to see if i could luck into it cheap just to see what i get vs the picture. The bid will remain low however.

robw1959 11-27-2016 05:52 PM

Battlefield T206 Cobb
 
Does anyone know the origin of the raw T206 Cobb (bat on) that battlefield is currently listing? Thanks.

ullmandds 11-27-2016 05:53 PM

the only way you get what you see...is if the cards graded.

Sean 11-28-2016 11:08 PM

Cobb Bat Off sold for $2,000;
Cobb Bat On sold for $2,500;
Cobb Green went for $3000.

I can't wait to read the feedback from the buyers. :rolleyes:

iowadoc77 11-29-2016 06:18 AM

Thankful
 
Once again thankful for this board. It is easy to get excited about a listing but always important to remember the too good to be true line and also to take a second look at the seller. I really can't believe they have that high of feedback. What a joke.
Thanks to everyone for outing these sellers that try to make this hobby a scam.

vintagebb2014 11-29-2016 08:12 AM

BF Policy?
 
I purchased a card about 2 years ago from Battlefield. Of course it was listed as Phenomenal, Near Mint, etc... and it looked amazing in the scan. Once I received the card, I was disappointed as it did not appear as advertised, "Near Mint". It may have graded out as a "5" at best, IMO. They allowed me to return the card and refunded my funds with no problem. I am assuming that as a result of me returning a card, I am blocked from bidding in any of the auctions. I'm not sure if this is their policy or not but this was my experience. I consider this a blessing.

jfkheat 11-29-2016 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagebb2014 (Post 1606146)
I purchased a card about 2 years ago from Battlefield. Of course it was listed as Phenomenal, Near Mint, etc... and it looked amazing in the scan. Once I received the card, I was disappointed as it did not appear as advertised, "Near Mint". It may have graded out as a "5" at best, IMO. They allowed me to return the card and refunded my funds with no problem. I am assuming that as a result of me returning a card, I am blocked from bidding in any of the auctions. I'm not sure if this is their policy or not but this was my experience. I consider this a blessing.

This is the reason her/his feedback is as good as it is. They accept returns without much hassle so the buyer doesn't leave negative feedback. If you look back at past sales almost every card over a couple hundred dollars has been sold at least 3 of 4 times.
James

Jeffrompa 11-29-2016 10:23 AM

They should have much better feedback by the cards they are showing online . I purchased some 1880's trade cards a couple years back with no problem . But those enhanced scans are really deceiving .

rjackson44 11-29-2016 11:21 AM

this will never end ,,sad

mechanicalman 11-29-2016 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfkheat (Post 1606187)
This is the reason her/his feedback is as good as it is. They accept returns without much hassle so the buyer doesn't leave negative feedback. If you look back at past sales almost every card over a couple hundred dollars has been sold at least 3 of 4 times.
James

I don't understand why buyers would not leave a negative even if she returns your money. You're still out the time, shipping cost, hassle; not to mention the disappointment of receiving something that was incredibly misrepresented. To me, that is not a positive or even neutral experience. If more buyers like this left negatives in situations like this, then perhaps we wouldn't be talking about her all the time.

Leon 12-01-2016 11:18 AM

Some people might think it's bad Karma to leave a negative but if anyone deserves them, it is these fraudulent folks who, at this time, have 350+ chances of screwing someone else over.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/battlefield0...p2047675.l2562

Quote:

Originally Posted by mechanicalman (Post 1606211)
I don't understand why buyers would not leave a negative even if she returns your money. You're still out the time, shipping cost, hassle; not to mention the disappointment of receiving something that was incredibly misrepresented. To me, that is not a positive or even neutral experience. If more buyers like this left negatives in situations like this, then perhaps we wouldn't be talking about her all the time.


Aquarian Sports Cards 12-01-2016 01:21 PM

Click!

My new favorite. Not often you see a raw card in "MINT+" condition...

Leon 12-02-2016 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1606838)
Click!

My new favorite. Not often you see a raw card in "MINT+" condition...

The over and under should be on how many times their cards have been returned to them!! They are scum.....,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PETE-ROSE-19...RL0&rmvSB=true

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SAllen2556 12-02-2016 12:12 PM

Here's the top portion blown up. Hmmmm...

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps9iby1nti.jpg

Leon 12-04-2016 01:38 PM

It kind of goes up and down :)...

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAllen2556 (Post 1607114)
Here's the top portion blown up. Hmmmm...

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps9iby1nti.jpg


egbeachley 12-04-2016 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAllen2556 (Post 1607114)
Here's the top portion blown up. Hmmmm...

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps9iby1nti.jpg

I wish I knew what you are referring to. Looks absolutely perfect to me. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks that, If so, please ignore me.

irv 12-04-2016 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egbeachley (Post 1607633)
I wish I knew what you are referring to. Looks absolutely perfect to me. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks that, If so, please ignore me.

I believe the OP is showing that it looks colored in?

If it is not that, then I have no clue either.

Aquarian Sports Cards 12-04-2016 06:15 PM

http://www.ebssportscards.com/images/n54/rose.jpg

maybe the visual aid will help, not conclusive, but interesting

PhillipAbbott79 12-05-2016 05:36 AM

Here is an interesting link:

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/gad...&pid=179426187

jfkheat 12-05-2016 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 (Post 1607766)

Is that her? All of her listings are gone.
James

Edit: Just looked at the date in the obit, March 2016.

jfkheat 12-05-2016 06:48 AM

I see that the buyer if the Cy Young left feedback.
James

Negative feedback rating Buyers BEWARE! The description doesn't support the card! Horrible EBAYER!!! Buyer: e***t ( 417Teal star icon for feedback score in between 100 to 499) During past month
CY YOUNG (GLOVE SHOWS) 1909-11 T206 #525 - INDIANS - BREATHTAKING!!! SHARP!!! (#131977504648) US $1,500.00 View Item

ullmandds 12-05-2016 07:09 AM

crazy! has the family been continuing to use her account post mortem?

savedfrommyspokes 12-05-2016 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfkheat (Post 1607779)
Is that her? All of her listings are gone.
James

Edit: Just looked at the date in the obit, March 2016.

All of the 5 day auctions ended on Sunday 12.4, there should be some new 5 day listings starting tomorrow evening....

Sean 12-05-2016 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfkheat (Post 1607781)
I see that the buyer if the Cy Young left feedback.
James

Negative feedback rating Buyers BEWARE! The description doesn't support the card! Horrible EBAYER!!! Buyer: e***t ( 417Teal star icon for feedback score in between 100 to 499) During past month
CY YOUNG (GLOVE SHOWS) 1909-11 T206 #525 - INDIANS - BREATHTAKING!!! SHARP!!! (#131977504648) US $1,500.00 View Item

I had to go to page 5 to find this feedback. The first four pages are filled great reviews of $5.00 cards. :rolleyes:

PhillipAbbott79 12-06-2016 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1607786)
crazy! has the family been continuing to use her account post mortem?


It sure seems that way, or it is not her at all.

This person has the exact same name, different middle initial but the funeral parlor is only 15 minutes from their mailing address. What are the odds of that? My guess is there is some very tight connection when it comes to middle America, like that.

PhillipAbbott79 12-18-2016 11:53 PM

There is definitely no house at her mailing address. Actually, it basically barely exists. It is either a business building with the dot at the wrong place, or the security gate to a gated community.

Most likely the former.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/30...67a50710a996b4

I bet she does it at her office where she works, so no one shows up at her door.

AustinMike 12-19-2016 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 (Post 1611941)
There is definitely no house at her mailing address. Actually, it basically barely exists. It is either a business building with the dot at the wrong place, or the security gate to a gated community.

Most likely the former.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/30...67a50710a996b4

I bet she does it at her office where she works, so no one shows up at her door.


If you're looking for 304 Jamestown Blvd in Dothan, Alabama, it's the building with Jackson Thornton out front. From your overhead, go NNE. It's the building under the cluster of trees off the road a little bit.

http://www.jacksonthornton.com/dothan

PhillipAbbott79 12-19-2016 08:40 AM

That explains it. She works there. I wonder if the company she works for knows that she is committing fraud out of their business.

irv 12-23-2016 08:10 PM

Hate to keep adding to this, but at least it may help the newbies.

Was surfing the Bay tonight and got all giddy when I noticed a bunch on very nice 52 Topps cards, but then quickly realized, after looking at the pic/info, it was none other than battleaxe herself! :mad:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANDY-PAFKO-1...0AAOSw6DtYXLCh

swarmee 12-23-2016 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irv (Post 1613513)
Hate to keep adding to this, but at least it may help the newbies.

Was surfing the Bay tonight and got all giddy when I noticed a bunch on very nice 52 Topps cards, but then quickly realized, after looking at the pic/info, it was none other than battleaxe herself! :mad:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANDY-PAFKO-1...0AAOSw6DtYXLCh

At least the description for that mentions the paper loss on the front through the letters of Dodgers and tape on the back, aside from not showing the picture of the red back. So it's probably not worth photoshopping a card she's telling you is Fair to Good.

irv 12-23-2016 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 1613518)
At least the description for that mentions the paper loss on the front through the letters of Dodgers and tape on the back, aside from not showing the picture of the red back. So it's probably not worth photoshopping a card she's telling you is Fair to Good.

She has a lot of 52's for sale, and although what you say is correct, her previous history speaks for itself.
I'd like to believe she has seen the light and is being more honest/truthful, but I know we will, likely, be reading about these in her negative feedback in the very near future.
This Spahn is also described well but my gut, as likely many others who know her, know this card probably isn't what it looks like when it's in hand.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WARREN-SPAHN...UAAOSwgGJYXLFV

Aquarian Sports Cards 12-23-2016 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irv (Post 1613524)
She has a lot of 52's for sale, and although what you say is correct, her previous history speaks for itself.
I'd like to believe she has seen the light and is being more honest/truthful, but I know we will, likely, be reading about these in her negative feedback in the very near future.
This Spahn is also described well but my gut, as likely many others who know her, know this card probably isn't what it looks like when it's in hand.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WARREN-SPAHN...UAAOSwgGJYXLFV

She's still calling a card with paper loss and tape residue "Beautiful"

irv 12-24-2016 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1613565)
She's still calling a card with paper loss and tape residue "Beautiful"

Everyone of her 52 Topps cards look exceptional to me. Not that that is not possible but that seems to fit the bill of all her listings.

Sadly, we know, when buyers have the cards in hand, they look nothing like they did in her postings. :eek:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw...topps&_sacat=0

Still p*sses me off knowing she continually gets away with this and E-Bay classifies her as a Top rated Seller!

Leon 12-24-2016 07:08 AM

Nowadays the only thing worse than seeing something is being sold by this scammer (who really should be in jail) is reading the title of an auction that says READ FIRST........

Quote:

Originally Posted by irv (Post 1613513)
Hate to keep adding to this, but at least it may help the newbies.

Was surfing the Bay tonight and got all giddy when I noticed a bunch on very nice 52 Topps cards, but then quickly realized, after looking at the pic/info, it was none other than battleaxe herself! :mad:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANDY-PAFKO-1...0AAOSw6DtYXLCh


SMPEP 12-24-2016 08:30 AM

I'm amazed that she could do this scamming so long. I would think there is a limit for the number of people willing to spend $2k on a 53 Topps Mantle - and I would think that the people willing to put that kind of money up for a baseball card would already know she is a complete scammer.

At some point I would think her prices had to fall because there's no one left that is willing to bid on her stuff - but I guess the baseball card market is deeper than I thought.

Cheers,
Patrick

Bram99 12-24-2016 01:13 PM

Battle...
 
Yes, you would think that there is an limited supply of people to fall for her tricks, but I have been a collector for 30 years and I did fall for it this summer on none other than a 1953 Mantle that I suspect she has had to sell about 5 times. The "Breathtaking" card wasn't as breathtaking as the picture, and I returned it. She took the absolute maximum plus a couple of days to reply to the request to return. Then she held on to the money for the absolute maximum time plus another few days. By the time I got my money back another person had been duped for the same card.

My guess she does this to multiple people with high priced cards, hopes they don't return them, and even if they do, she can't lose because she holds the money for over a month and then re-sells again. I feel the real villain in this story is actually eBay, who has to be very aware of her poor business practices, but doesn't want to lose their cut of the transactions where people don't know any better and are for a time, satisfied.

Tony Stinsa / Bram99

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMPEP (Post 1613625)
I'm amazed that she could do this scamming so long. I would think there is a limit for the number of people willing to spend $2k on a 53 Topps Mantle - and I would think that the people willing to put that kind of money up for a baseball card would already know she is a complete scammer.

At some point I would think her prices had to fall because there's no one left that is willing to bid on her stuff - but I guess the baseball card market is deeper than I thought.

Cheers,
Patrick


irv 12-25-2016 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bram99 (Post 1613720)
Yes, you would think that there is an limited supply of people to fall for her tricks, but I have been a collector for 30 years and I did fall for it this summer on none other than a 1953 Mantle that I suspect she has had to sell about 5 times. The "Breathtaking" card wasn't as breathtaking as the picture, and I returned it. She took the absolute maximum plus a couple of days to reply to the request to return. Then she held on to the money for the absolute maximum time plus another few days. By the time I got my money back another person had been duped for the same card.

My guess she does this to multiple people with high priced cards, hopes they don't return them, and even if they do, she can't lose because she holds the money for over a month and then re-sells again. I feel the real villain in this story is actually eBay, who has to be very aware of her poor business practices, but doesn't want to lose their cut of the transactions where people don't know any better and are for a time, satisfied.

Tony Stinsa / Bram99

I agree!
I have written E-Bay, by following their own rules and procedures written below in every ad, and not once have I received a reply.
To make that situation even more troublesome/puzzling, is the fact I know I am not the only one.:mad:


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