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Jasonxmay 06-07-2014 09:35 PM

1933 Goudey Autographs
 
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In my quest to collect signed "rookie" cards of every HOF player (an impossible goal I realize), I quickly developed an affinity for the 1933 Goudey set. Although not technically "rookie" cards of most players featured, the cards are beautiful and I can't be too picky with signatures that are this difficult to obtain. I'd love to see some other signed 1933 Goudeys, and I hope you enjoy the scans of mine.

Jason

Jasonxmay 06-07-2014 09:36 PM

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footlong 06-08-2014 05:04 AM

Incredible cards. I noticed the difference between the early Terry and the more modern version.

dog*dirt 06-08-2014 05:25 AM

Amazing cards Jason, really like the Hartnett.

milkit1 06-08-2014 06:52 AM

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did someone say signed goudeys?!?!? :D
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btcarfagno 06-08-2014 08:05 AM

Um.

Wow.

The Culver looks familiar. I think I was underbidder on that.

Dammit.

Tom C

RelicSports 06-08-2014 08:58 AM

Gorgeous collections guys! I particularly like the vintage Hack, Gehrig, and Ruth sigs...AMAZING!

sporteq 06-08-2014 09:54 AM

Very impressive collections.. Thanks for sharing!

Albert

Klrdds 06-08-2014 10:29 AM

Beautiful and impressive collections with great and legible signatures. These really show the pride the players had in their signatures to make perfect signatures on small items and not messing up the card or their " images" for the collector.

btcarfagno 06-08-2014 10:37 AM

Cuyler I meant. Stupid smart phone. Smart my ass.

Tom C

Jasonxmay 06-08-2014 11:00 AM

I just picked up the Cuyler a few weeks ago from Memory Lane Auctions, so it's probably the same one you are thinking of. I have another Cuyler that is trimmed, signed in pencil, with a missing back, so this beauty was a major upgrade.

Jasonxmay 06-08-2014 09:39 PM

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Just picked up this Goslin.

milkit1 06-09-2014 07:03 AM

sweet pickup!

bender07 06-09-2014 07:37 AM

Other than the other Ruth/Gehrig cards, is there any other HOFer you're missing (not including Lajoie)? Incredible collection by the way.

Jasonxmay 06-09-2014 09:51 AM

I believe I'm missing Lajoie, Speaker, Foxx, Cochrane, Klein, Lazzeri, Pennock and Hornsby. I include Lajoie because I know one exists. Goslin, Manush and Ruth all have other cards in the set that I don't bave.

bender07 06-09-2014 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasonxmay (Post 1285530)
I believe I'm missing Lajoie, Speaker, Foxx, Cochrane, Klein, Lazzeri, Pennock and Hornsby. I include Lajoie because I know one exists. Goslin, Manush and Ruth all have other cards in the set that I don't bave.

Oh that's all? Should be a snap to finish up :)

I remember seeing that Lajoie in an auction years ago, can't remember which.

bbcard1 06-09-2014 12:30 PM

Though certainly not the rarest of the bunch, I always like the precise script of Gehringer's signature. Very underrated player, generous signer.

jad22 06-09-2014 01:25 PM

Wasn't the Lajoie part of the Halper collection?

milkit1 06-09-2014 01:33 PM

You sure you dont want to count Cochrane in the ones you have jason? :D

Jasonxmay 06-09-2014 05:43 PM

Forgot about Eddie Collins. So I need Lajoie, Speaker, Foxx, Cochrane, Klein, Lazzeri, Pennock, Hornsby and Collins. Obviously if anyone has a lead on any of these, I'm willing to trade or pay generously in your favor. I have several tough extras to trade. I'll even pay a finder's fee if you can point me in a direction that leads to the acquisition of one of these.

Jason

Lordstan 06-09-2014 06:07 PM

Jason,
Great stuff. Man, am I glad you don't collect 34s!

Sean,
Great stuff from you as well.

Best,
Mark

T206Collector 06-10-2014 12:18 PM

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Not mine - but gosh, what I wouldn't do to get my hands on this one:

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 06-10-2014 01:46 PM

What is the story behind the red pencil marks on some of the Goudeys?

Jasonxmay 06-10-2014 06:40 PM

The cards with the distinct red lines beneath the signature were obtained by John Laity. Mr. Laity obtained autographs on the New York subway stops for the ballparks in the early 1930s. 1933 Goudey cards that he got signed are easily identifiable as he drew a red line as a way of telling the player where to sign. He also trimmed off the bottom banner on the cards that featured one. I was fortunate enough to buy my first card from the "Laity" collection from Roy Z., who is a member here. That card was Hack Wilson, and I believe Roy still uses the card as his avatar on here. I won it on ebay for around $1100, which at the time was the most I had ever spent on a card (funny how quickly things change). I emailed Roy to see if he happened to have any others and he had a Babe Ruth, which he graciously agreed to sell me. Roy put me in contact with a gentleman named Jim, whom he had purchased the Ruth and Wilson cards from. Jim had another Ruth, Gehrig, Ott, Vaughan, and Dizzy Dean left from the original collection that he had purchased years before from Mr. Laity. Jim wasn't ready to sell when I contacted him, but he kindly reached out to me a year or so later and we agreed on a price. Since then I've been on the lookout for other red line Goudeys, as I'm trying to piece Mr. Laity's collection back together piece by piece.

theshleps 06-10-2014 08:22 PM

Laity
 
Jason as I was going through my cards I think I found one- I forget which but possibly Dickey

Leon 06-11-2014 10:19 AM

Great thread with a lot of good info. Thanks for sharing!!

jad22 06-11-2014 10:43 AM

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Not mine - but gosh, what I wouldn't do to get my hands on this one:

Was there any question about the authenticity of that signature? Great information.

Jasonxmay 06-11-2014 10:52 AM

Now that I take a closer look at that Lajoie, I do not believe it to be real. The signature looks way too slow and deliberate.

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Was there any question about the authenticity of that signature?


kaddyshack 06-11-2014 11:42 AM

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Jason

Nice to see the signed Goudeys again. I thought you had 2 signed Ruths ? Anyhow, it's nice to see the signatures again. Please let me have first option on the Hack Wilson if you ever decide to sell it. I regret letting it go, but I know it's in the hands of a true collector. I'm satisfied with this on, which is also from the collection of Mr. Laity.

Roy Z.

milkit1 06-12-2014 07:32 PM

I got my first signed 33 (a Earl Whitehill for $50 off gar miller) on xmas 1988. not long after I got a vhs of the Barry Halper collection showing that Lajoie. Thats when I came to the realization that it was possible to have every card in the set signed. 25 Years and 250 signed goudeys later I am not so sure about the Lajoie either. Also I am positive there is no earl Clark. Ive looked for these longer then anyone and am sure of that. Interestingly, many Johnny Welch;s were signed (and by many I mean maybe 5) but Earl Clark was a minor leaguer for most of the 30's and was killed in a car accident in 1938. i do believe this to be the first set that multiple kids got signed at games based on the amount of vintage signed ones I ve seen including the red lines.

mrmopar 09-30-2014 09:37 PM

I'm guessing many of this type and quality of card are tucked away in private collections, only surfacing periodically. I see the more common signed 30s and older cards on ebay here and there. I don't bother to look at auction houses, as I don't have that kind of money to spend on them. Sure would be nice to know that more of these were signed though before many of the players passed away. I absolutely love the vintage signed cards. Have nothing of this magnitude to boast about, but try to grab any that I see at a budget collectors price. I have a few 33-34 Goudeys, Diamond Stars, Batter Ups and most commonly the 39-41 Play Balls. No T cards in this collection unfortunately.

Enjoyed the pictures, especially the Maranville, Cuyler, Wilson, etc., all brief Dodgers, which is my autograph passion.


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