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codycody 04-30-2023 05:57 PM

Please add to this all time super rare SSP chase card list
 
I am trying to search for the all time rare chase cards/short prints. hoping you all can add to my list. so far, here is what i came up with. anyone that has any ideas on vintage cards that were meant to complete a set to send in for a prize or complete a set and the card was never printed. Thanks!!!!!

1. 1932 us caramel lindstrom
2. 1933 goudey lajoie
3. 1933 george c miller ivy andrews
4. 1930 johnston-schutter ,i am going to be, a strong man
5. 1990 topps george bush & nnof frank thomas
6. 1932 president McKinley

ejharrington 04-30-2023 06:09 PM

1928 F50 Harrington's Ice Cream #48 Earl Smith Green Tint

G1911 04-30-2023 06:11 PM

T206 Wagner and Plank ;)

doug.goodman 04-30-2023 06:34 PM

Welcome to net54 CodyCody

swarmee 04-30-2023 07:01 PM

Since you're talking nonsports as well...
https://forum.vintagenonsports.com/p...man%20mckinley

I believe there was a hockey card needed to trade for a pair of ice skates.

codycody 04-30-2023 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by swarmee (Post 2336246)
Since you're talking nonsports as well...
https://forum.vintagenonsports.com/p...man%20mckinley

I believe there was a hockey card needed to trade for a pair of ice skates.

thats exactly what i was looking for. i wasnt aware of the cowboy card. there has to be alot more sports cards like that too, the rare care needed that noone could get their hands on.

G1911 04-30-2023 08:23 PM

Including the Thomas No Name printing defect would open it up to a ton of unrecognized obscurities, but here are some more non-defects that are much rarer compared to the other cards in their set. Since R72 is included, I am not restricting to baseball. Since some of the cards on the OP are not SP'd for some sort of prize, not all of these were SP'd for that reason (for many, while people will claim to know the reason, there is no evidence proving a particular theory for why they were SP'd). Off the top of the head:

A number of E90 American Caramels, with debate on which are the most rare.

T70 - Declaration of Independence Triple Folder.

T220 Silver - Jas. J. Corbett and Mike Donovan.

T226 - Gans, Jeannete, Johnson, Langford.

T227 - C.P. Rodgers and Bruce Brown.

US Caramel William McKinley.

1948/49 Leaf Boxing - Rocky Marciano.

1951 Topps ML All Stars - Konstanty, Roberts, Stanky.

1953 Glendale Meats Art Houtteman

1954 Bowman Ted Williams (rarity oft overstated, but much tougher than the other cards).

1959 Fleer Ted Signs for 59 (rarity greatly overstated, but much tougher than the other cards).

1960 Fleer Pepper Martin.

1964 Auravision Willie Mays.

Numerous cards in the 60's Post series.

1968 Atlantic Oil winner cards, especially Freehan and Agee

1976 Topps US Presidents Gerald Ford.

ejharrington 04-30-2023 08:40 PM

1963 Pepsi cola colt 45s John Bateman.

yomass 04-30-2023 08:59 PM

Maple Crispette # 15 Casey Stengel
(only one known is in the Baseball HOF)

There are a number of hockey "chase" cards in vintage sets
C56 Newsy LaLonde # 37
(two known)
Paterson Bert Corbeau
Maple Crispette Cleghorn (also # 15)
Quaker Oats Lumley, Clancy Richard

ValKehl 04-30-2023 09:07 PM

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1925 Holland Creameries card #16 of Roger Peckinpaugh was short printed to apparently avoid giving away ice cream.

Exhibitman 04-30-2023 09:22 PM

1948 Leaf Graziano. Marciano wasn't in the set.

More 1/1:

1904 Sporting Life cabinet Jeffries-Munroe

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...20cabinet.jpeg

R340 Sport Kings premium

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...y%20boxers.jpg

G1911 04-30-2023 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2336281)
1948 Leaf Graziano. Marciano wasn't in the set.

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I’m just a dumbass.

brian1961 05-01-2023 12:34 PM

1933 R306 Butter Cream Babe Ruth

Like several issues of the 1930s, the sponsoring company was offering some VERY desirable free prizes if a child completed the entire set, and sent the cards back to the company for one of those prizes. This was the depths of The Great Depression, and the Butter Cream company was offering as a grand prize an outrageously desirable bicycle! Since the firm did not want to give out very many bicycles (maybe only 1??????), they super super super super super (you get it, I'm sure) short printed one card----"Babe" Ruth.

Perhaps as a last ditch effort to persuade a kid not to redeem the cards for the precious bicycle, they made the toughest to find card to complete a set the most desirable player of any kid who ever wanted a baseball card, the mighty Babe!

When you really think about it, that's pretty underhanded.:mad:

When I consulted my Beckett 3 Baseball Card Price Guide, the Babe Ruth was missing from the checklist. I guess it had yet to be discovered, or known by only a few people, in 1981!

In hobby lore, Barry Halper won this immensely rare card in an auction, and proceeded to lose track of it!!! As I understood the story, Barry accidently threw it out, with a bunch of other wrapping. I'll bet it took him a long time to get over that mistake.

If I got the story wrong, and someone wishes to tell it as it was, by all means, please do so.:o --- Brian Powell

ALBB 05-01-2023 12:48 PM

rare
 
1964 Willie Mays aurovision ?? really ?

G1911 05-01-2023 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ALBB (Post 2336444)
1964 Willie Mays aurovision ?? really ?

“here are some more non-defects that are much rarer compared to the other cards in their set“.

I used a relative scale. PSA has graded 29 Mantles, and 4 Mays. Sure seems to me like he is absolutely significantly short printed in the set. Valuable? No. But that isn’t what was said.

Schlesinj 05-01-2023 04:05 PM

1930 Baguer Chocolate Mitchell Blake

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...hocolates-set/

I found a beat up one on EBay a few months ago.

JLange 05-01-2023 05:51 PM

1956 Prize Brand Franks Cleveland Indians
 
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The ridiculously scarce 1956 Prize Brand Franks Cleveland Indians set apparently had a special chase card of radio announcer Jimmy Dudley. The checklist is not even complete yet on this set, with less than 10 examples known.

brianp-beme 05-01-2023 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLange (Post 2336537)
The ridiculously scarce 1956 Prize Brand Franks Cleveland Indians set apparently had a special chase card of radio announcer Jimmy Dudley. The checklist is not even complete yet on this set, with less than 10 examples known.

I like how they misspelled Jimmy's name in the ad as 'Jummy'.

Jummy Dudley is an even better announcer name than Jimmy Dudley.

Brian

BioCRN 05-01-2023 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Schlesinj (Post 2336514)
1930 Baguer Chocolate Mitchell Blake

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...hocolates-set/

I found a beat up one on EBay a few months ago.

Who is Mitchell Blake, anyway? I spent a while looking a certain common Baguer (and found it), but I've never figured out who Mitchell Blake is...

I know John "Sherrif" Blake played during that time period, but that doesn't seem to be him...maybe...

hcv123 05-01-2023 07:46 PM

American oil winner cards
 
Mays, Ruth and I think 1 or 2 more.

whiteymet 05-01-2023 08:17 PM

1967 Dexter Press Paul Schaal
 
1967 Dexter Press Paul Schaal only Angel in the set. Tough like the Pepsi Bateman mentioned above

Leon 05-03-2023 02:26 PM

Great thread guys. I don't know anymore than what has been said about chase cards, but here is the earliest hockey card I have seen.

https://luckeycards.com/hockey.jpg

Exhibitman 05-03-2023 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2336267)

1968 Atlantic Oil winner cards, especially Freehan and Agee

All 10 are rare as friggin' hens' teeth. I've been chasing them for years and years and only found 3.

Add to the list:

Any Diamond Dust card

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...20DiMaggio.jpg

G1911 05-03-2023 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2337074)
All 10 are rare as friggin' hens' teeth. I've been chasing them for years and years and only found 3.

It’s one set I’ve passed on just because that chase for all the winners would take longer than my natural lifespan. Has to be one of the toughest modern vintage sets to complete.

Schlesinj 05-03-2023 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BioCRN (Post 2336570)
Who is Mitchell Blake, anyway? I spent a while looking a certain common Baguer (and found it), but I've never figured out who Mitchell Blake is...

I know John "Sherrif" Blake played during that time period, but that doesn't seem to be him...maybe...

No idea, maybe Roland has an idea.

Exhibitman 05-04-2023 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2337075)
It’s one set I’ve passed on just because that chase for all the winners would take longer than my natural lifespan. Has to be one of the toughest modern vintage sets to complete.

I don't think it is possible to complete it. I've never even seen images of some of the higher value prize cards. After 20+ years all I had was the $1 Osteen, the $1 Wilson and the $100 Davis, which is the most expensive prize card I've seen:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...A%203%20MK.jpg

You've also got the instant winner card:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ard%20Card.jpg

Not at the same level as the cash money cards but still quite difficult, and the Swoboda error, also quite difficult:

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...5%20dollar.jpg

ETA: for those who don't know the issue, Swoboda was supposed to be part of the $10 combo but there was an error $5 card released that was probably pulled very quickly because it is really hard to find.

G1911 05-04-2023 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2337289)
I don't think it is possible to complete it. I've never even seen images of some of the higher value prize cards. After 20+ years all I had was the $1 Osteen, the $1 Wilson and the $100 Davis, which is the most expensive prize card I've seen:

One of the amusements in my last copy of the Standard Catalog is that the $2,500 winner cards are both listed as being worth $350 in NM. I wonder where that price came from :rolleyes:.

I only have, I think, a common Frank Robinson as a type card. It's a nice little oddball set I'd build in full if it was realistic. So many cards that are so rare that it's possible there are 0 extant copies left is a set builders nightmare. It's a set I enjoy from a sanity-saving distance

Misunderestimated 05-04-2023 04:51 PM

There is a Bowie Kuhn card that Topps apparently custom-made for Kuhn in 1969 that might fit your definition although I think that there are more of these around than one would think. Many are autographed.

Also if we're considering short-printed T-cards that make the sets hard to complete we \ need to include T207s of Lowdermilk, Lewis and Ward
T205s of Hoblitzell (sans Stats) and Mathewson (error) and maybe some others...
T202s of Mathewson/Devlin -- the Rustlers version appears to be harder than the Giants version....
I don't know if there is a comparable T201.... Someone else can explain the relative rarities in the T204 set (Square fronts etc).

raulus 05-04-2023 08:42 PM

Never mind…

Now I’m the one mixing up Atlantic oil and American oil…


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