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orly57 05-01-2017 12:51 PM

1907 Ty Cobb Rookie Postcard Run Complete
 
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Last night I was fortunate enough to buy the final card I needed to complete the 1907 Cobb Rookie Postcard run. This was a challenging undertaking since four of the seven cards have a known population of 11 or less. When I first bought the Dietsche batting (the first one I bought), I got buyer's remorse before the card even arrived in the mail. "I don't collect postcards! What the heck am I doing?" Well, that changed very quickly. As I fell in love with the big bold images, I learned more about these rare and beautiful Cobbs. I realized that they were no different than baseball cards, just bigger, and often nicer pictures. Heck, most prewar cards don't even have stat backs or bios anyway (the Dietsche actually do). So I searched high and low, and with the help of some great members on n54, was able to complete this run. I own other Cobb postcards that I love as well, but here is the 1907 Run: Dietsche Batting and Fielding, Wolverine News Batting and Pose, Novelty Cutlery, HM Taylor, and the newest one, the Detroit Seemless Steel Tubes. The Steel Tubes has some bad toning, but is actually the highest graded of the four known specimens. The only way I can post on this site is in collage format, so I did the best I could.

Bpm0014 05-01-2017 01:00 PM

Awesome man!

ullmandds 05-01-2017 01:08 PM

Nice Orlando...but you still need atleast one cheap 1907 team card rppc to go with that collection!

Snapolit1 05-01-2017 01:12 PM

Really cool.

wondo 05-01-2017 01:29 PM

Sweet!!!!!

ajjohnsonsoxfan 05-01-2017 01:30 PM

Wow what a great collection my man! How are you going to display those in your house?

BeanTown 05-01-2017 01:42 PM

Congrats Orlando. Well done and in a short time frame. I would put those beauties in the bank box or safe as I couldn't relax having people in the house with them on display. What's your favorite one 1907 Cobb postcard? The Novelty is mine.

Bicem 05-01-2017 01:52 PM

Novelty is 1910.

No ALPC team card? :)

Great collection!

pawpawdiv9 05-01-2017 01:55 PM

Try getting one of these. Its a real beauty.
http://www.vintagecardprices.com/pics/58112.jpg

CW 05-01-2017 01:58 PM

That's a killer group! Nicely done.

orly57 05-01-2017 02:08 PM

Thanks Guys. I am partial to the Wolverine Pose. Kevin, I will defer to your expertise on the Novelty. It is labeled 1907, though I have heard rumblings that it could be a bit later. As for team cards, they just don't do it for me. Maybe one day.

Chris, what card is that??? Looks like an 1980's tribute cards that Dean's would sell for $2,459.00.
EDIT: wow, it is actually a 1910 card. I had never seen that one before.

jb67 05-01-2017 02:11 PM

Outstanding collection of Cobbs. Congrats.

yanksfan09 05-01-2017 03:13 PM

Congrats Orlando! Great group of cards there.

VintageBen 05-01-2017 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by orly57 (Post 1656797)
Last night I was fortunate enough to buy the final card I needed to complete the 1907 Cobb Rookie Postcard run. This was a challenging undertaking since four of the seven cards have a known population of 11 or less. When I first bought the Dietsche batting (the first one I bought), I got buyer's remorse before the card even arrived in the mail. "I don't collect postcards! What the heck am I doing?" Well, that changed very quickly. As I fell in love with the big bold images, I learned more about these rare and beautiful Cobbs. I realized that they were no different than baseball cards, just bigger, and often nicer pictures. Heck, most prewar cards don't even have stat backs or bios anyway (the Dietsche actually do). So I searched high and low, and with the help of some great members on n54, was able to complete this run. I own other Cobb postcards that I love as well, but here is the 1907 Run: Dietsche Batting and Fielding, Wolverine News Batting and Pose, Novelty Cutlery, HM Taylor, and the newest one, the Detroit Seemless Steel Tubes. The Steel Tubes has some bad toning, but is actually the highest graded of the four known specimens. The only way I can post on this site is in collage format, so I did the best I could.


You are the real MVP!!! :)

T_Hamilton 05-01-2017 03:49 PM

Congrats buddy! One heck of a collection...

pherbener 05-01-2017 05:48 PM

Damn Orlando!! I was after that Seamless Cobb hot and heavy. I was back and forth about putting one more bid but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Congrats! Great accomplishment!! They look awesome!

rainier2004 05-01-2017 06:12 PM

Congrats Orly, those look great.

chalupacollects 05-01-2017 06:30 PM

Nice set! Congrats!

orly57 05-01-2017 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pherbener (Post 1656965)
Damn Orlando!! I was after that Seamless Cobb hot and heavy. I was back and forth about putting one more bid but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Congrats! Great accomplishment!! They look awesome!

Damn you Paul. You cost me a fortune! Lol. Thanks man.

clydepepper 05-01-2017 06:48 PM

Incredible, Orlando! Congratulations!

insidethewrapper 05-01-2017 10:34 PM

Orlando, great collection of Cobb's. I think I got you started with that 1907 Dietsche Batting Cobb. You really took off after that. It's fun having a wantlist, now are you going after other Cobb's ?

Leon 05-02-2017 07:28 AM

Nice run of Cobby's, Orlando. Now onto the next project.....

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orly57 05-02-2017 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by insidethewrapper (Post 1657077)
Orlando, great collection of Cobb's. I think I got you started with that 1907 Dietsche Batting Cobb. You really took off after that. It's fun having a wantlist, now are you going after other Cobb's ?

Mike, the WAS YOU! I had to check the psa registry since I knew you only through EBay, and I only remembered that the seller had the #1 Dietsche set registry. Had no clue you were on this board. Yes, you started the addiction. You also included that wonderful article from Old Cardboard about Dietsche as the Gateway to prewar postcard collecting. Thank you for that. I will continue to go after other Cobb postcards, but the ones left on my list are extremely rare. Looking for an American Pub, Detroit Free Press, and the Hubel. There are one graded of each and 3 (one of each) that are raw that I know of. So those will be tough. Would also love a Cobb/Wagner PC. In the meantime I will seek out other nice early "standard" Cobb's. So great to know you are on here, and thank you again for introducing me to these amazing treasures!

calvindog 05-02-2017 01:51 PM

Here's an unusual Cobb/Wagner PC:

<a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/3423479945/in/album-72157607702362661/" title="1909 W.W. Smith Postcard"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3623/3423479945_dc1cbce13e_o.jpg" width="924" height="500" alt="1909 W.W. Smith Postcard"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

h2oya311 05-02-2017 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1657279)
Here's an unusual Cobb/Wagner PC:

<a data-flickr-embed="true" href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/3423479945/in/album-72157607702362661/" title="1909 W.W. Smith Postcard"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3623/3423479945_dc1cbce13e_o.jpg" width="924" height="500" alt="1909 W.W. Smith Postcard"></a><script async src="//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Very cool. Never seen that one before! Here's my lone Cobb postcard c1905 w/ jeweler George Parquette (from Georgia). It looks like Cobb's been cuffed:

http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgr...5%20Cobb_1.jpg

ls7plus 05-03-2017 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by orly57 (Post 1656835)
Thanks Guys. I am partial to the Wolverine Pose. Kevin, I will defer to your expertise on the Novelty. It is labeled 1907, though I have heard rumblings that it could be a bit later. As for team cards, they just don't do it for me. Maybe one day.

Chris, what card is that??? Looks like an 1980's tribute cards that Dean's would sell for $2,459.00.
EDIT: wow, it is actually a 1910 card. I had never seen that one before.

I wondered if you got the Seamless, Orlando--terrific pick-up and card (might well have been mine had it come up two months from now!)--1925 Gehrig rookie, watch out, and may the Dietsche Fielding pose (meaning, "mine") and the Wolverine News Portrait (again meaning "mine") follow suit in value!!!

While I have heard the controversy re the date of issueance of the Novelty Cutlery's, I was not aware of any consensus having been reached. Is either PSA or SGC labeling them a 1910 vs 1907 issue?

Highest regards,

Larry

Bicem 05-03-2017 04:38 PM

Kevin Struss has proven without a doubt that it cannot be 1907, a search of n54 and you'll find the thread. I can't speak for the grading companies.

Bicem 05-03-2017 04:47 PM

Basically Sam Frock in a Pirates uniform plus the earliest postal dates ever found on a NC postcard.

T206Jim 05-03-2017 05:46 PM

Fantastic run Orlando, thanks for sharing. You should seriously consider having them professionally framed as a display.

Baseball Rarities 05-03-2017 06:35 PM

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While I have heard the controversy re the date of issueance of the Novelty Cutlery's, I was not aware of any consensus having been reached.

Orlando, you have put together an absolutely fantastic collection is a relatively short periord of time. Congratulations.

I do not mean to hijack your thread, but since there seems to be some confusion regarding the PC805 Novelty Cutlery set, I thought that I would make a quick post.

There is quite a bit of evidence that the set was not produced until very late 1909, or probably 1910. There are a number of players pictured in uniforms that can be precisely dated to 1909. Also, the earliest postmark that I have ever seen for either a PC796 Sepia postcard or a PC805 Novelty Cutlery is 1910.

Lastly, the image of Cobb and Wagner is a very famous one from the 1909 World Series.

orly57 05-03-2017 07:44 PM

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Please Kevin, no worries. I love becoming educated about these things, and I think it's great that others do too. Extremely compelling arguments. Looks like it isn't a 1907. That's cool though. Can't say it affects my affinity for it, or its value for that matter. It's a bad ass card. Maybe you can espouse your argument as to why the Brush is a 1908 and not a 1910 as it is labeled.

Baseball Rarities 05-03-2017 07:50 PM

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It's a bad ass card.

Yes it is. Probably my favorite image of Cobb, along with the one that was used for his T227 Cobb.

orly57 05-03-2017 07:52 PM

Kevin, I edited my post. Check it out

Baseball Rarities 05-03-2017 08:07 PM

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Maybe you can espouse your argument as to why the Brush is a 1908 and not a 1910 as it is labeled.

Bill Couglin left the Tigers after the 1908 season and went on to be a player/manger for the Williamsport team of the Tri-State League in 1909.

Ira Thomas only played one year with the Tigers. He was purchased by them on December 12, 1907 and subsequently sold to the Athletics on December 8, 1908.

orly57 05-03-2017 09:15 PM

And I assume, conversely, that there are no players in the set that only played in 1910 or after, and weren't on the team in 1908.

Baseball Rarities 05-03-2017 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by orly57 (Post 1657775)
And I assume, conversely, that there are no players in the set that only played in 1910 or after, and weren't on the team in 1908.

Correct. All of the players who are in the set played for the Tigers in 1908.

JohnnyFinance7 05-03-2017 11:01 PM

That's awesome! Congratulations!


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