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Peter_Spaeth 07-21-2015 08:43 PM

Trivia 1946 to 2007 in three players
 
Player A made his debut in 1946, Player B retired in 2007, and Player C was teammates with both of them. No looking it up, who are they?

trdcrdkid 07-21-2015 09:14 PM

Is A Yogi Berri and C Ed Kranepool? I'm trying to think who B could be without looking it up (which I swear I haven't!).

ncinin 07-21-2015 09:17 PM

Jesse Orosco?
 
Was Orosco playing with Kranepool or did he play until 2007?

Peter_Spaeth 07-21-2015 09:21 PM

For now, I am being a jerk and will only acknowledge all three correct answers, as narrowing it down one by one makes it too easy. If nobody has it by morning, well, we'll see.

trdcrdkid 07-21-2015 09:22 PM

I thought of Orosco, whose rookie year with the 1979 Mets was Kranepool's last year with the same team, but I just cheated and looked it up, and he only played until 2003.

parkerj33 07-21-2015 09:24 PM

musial, mccarver, juan samuel?

parkerj33 07-21-2015 09:27 PM

i meant julio franco for player c....

Peter_Spaeth 07-21-2015 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkerj33 (Post 1433757)
musial, mccarver, juan samuel?

No, Musial started in 1941, for one thing.

gregmorris818 07-21-2015 09:28 PM

Berra, mcgraw, franco

Peter_Spaeth 07-21-2015 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregmorris818 (Post 1433761)
Berra, mcgraw, franco

You got it.:D
Berra 1946 - 1965 Mets.
McGraw 1965 Mets - 1982 Phillies.
Franco 1982 Phillies - 2007.

ncinin 07-21-2015 09:34 PM

1941 to 2008
 
You can go from 1942 to 2008 with Spahn, Niekro and Glavine

trdcrdkid 07-21-2015 09:35 PM

I just figured out that it was Berra, McGraw, Franco, but gregmorris818 beat me to it. But I cheated, so I can't complain. :rolleyes:

Peter_Spaeth 07-21-2015 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncinin (Post 1433763)
You can go from 1942 to 2008 with Spahn, Niekro and Glavine

That may be impossible to top.

Peter_Spaeth 07-21-2015 09:44 PM

Actually, Early Wynn and Tommy John get you from 1939 to 1989, so who was a long-playing rookie on those late 80s Yankees teams? Al Leiter through 2005 so that's a tie, I think, with Spahn Niekro Glavine.

almostdone 07-21-2015 10:03 PM

Didn't Jamie Moyer start in the 1940's:D
Drew

trdcrdkid 07-21-2015 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by almostdone (Post 1433774)
Didn't Jamie Moyer start in the 1940's:D
Drew

Actually, with Jamie Moyer you can get from 1951 to 2012 (Willie Mays-Gary Matthews-Jamie Moyer). Not as long as Spahn-Niekro-Glavine (1942-2008) or Wynn-John-Leiter (1939-2005), but still pretty good, tied with Berra-McGraw-Franco.

vansaad 07-21-2015 11:11 PM

If you count Satchel's time in the Negro leagues, Satchel Paige-Minnie Minoso-Harold Baines will take you from 1926-2001.

rhettyeakley 07-21-2015 11:46 PM

Some other ones I can think of (if expanding to 4 or 5)...

Amos Strunk(1908)...Al Simmons...Elmer Valo...Jim Kaat(1983)

Jack Quinn(1909)...Paul Richards...Billy Pierce...Minnie Minoso...Harold Baines (2001)

Hard to beat this one...

Nick Altrock(1898)...Ossie Bleuge...Early Wynn...Tommy John...Al Leiter(2005)

jimmysuitcase 07-22-2015 01:03 AM

one up?
 
Piggybacking off Rhett's post, wouldn't Bluege-Wynn-John from 22-89 be a new 3 man high mark, or would it not count since Wynn's Sen's debut occurred after Bluege retired from the same '39 team?

ChiSoxFan 07-22-2015 07:55 AM

How about:

Honus Wagner (1897-1917 PIT)
Burleigh Grimes (1916 PIT - 1934 STL/NYY/PIT)
Frankie Crosetti (1932 NYY - 1948 NYY)

Bocabirdman 07-22-2015 08:07 AM

Teddy Ballgame-Yaz-Eckersley?

Peter_Spaeth 07-22-2015 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman (Post 1433840)
Teddy Ballgame-Yaz-Eckersley?

Yaz did not play with Ted.

Peter_Spaeth 07-22-2015 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiSoxFan (Post 1433834)
How about:

Honus Wagner (1897-1917 PIT)
Burleigh Grimes (1916 PIT - 1934 STL/NYY/PIT)
Frankie Crosetti (1932 NYY - 1948 NYY)

That's only 51 years.

Peter_Spaeth 07-22-2015 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vansaad (Post 1433789)
If you count Satchel's time in the Negro leagues, Satchel Paige-Minnie Minoso-Harold Baines will take you from 1926-2001.

Minoso just made a guest appearance at an extremely advanced age, he retired in 1964.

Paul S 07-22-2015 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1433768)
That may be impossible to top.

If I'm reading the OP correctly, that's just serial tagteam. Glavine played with Spahn?! (Too lazy to look up w/Neikro)

Bocabirdman 07-22-2015 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1433843)
Yaz did not play with Ted.

oops........

Peter_Spaeth 07-22-2015 09:20 AM

Easy mistake to make as his RC is 1960, Ted's last year. One of the few players in that era to have a card before his ML debut, I would think? But his first game was 1961.

frankbmd 07-22-2015 09:31 AM

Okay, i get it, now lets change the question.

All three players must have been right handed or all three could be left handed. All three must have played the same position (at least part of the time) for the same team (so they were possibly platooned during their overlap (don't you just love righty-righty platoons)). Finally all three players must have had 34 inch waists and preferred chewing tobacco to cigarettes.:D:D:D

Bocabirdman 07-22-2015 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1433862)
Easy mistake to make as his RC is 1960, Ted's last year. One of the few players in that era to have a card before his ML debut, I would think? But his first game was 1961.

I admit, I was doing it off of the top of my head and Yaz's 1960 rookie card entered into my thinking.

Peter_Spaeth 07-22-2015 11:18 AM

Name these two teams.

1. This team had 4 pitchers who already had won 200 games, plus another pitcher who became a HOFer and another pitcher who was their best starter.

2. This team had 5 pitchers who had won or would go on to win 200 games.

Orioles1954 07-22-2015 11:39 AM

Here's another good one....

Brooks Robinson (1955-1977)
Eddie Murray (1977-1997)
Paul Konerko (1997-2014)

59 years.

frankbmd 07-22-2015 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1433895)
Name these two teams.

1. This team had 4 pitchers who already had won 200 games, plus another pitcher who became a HOFer and another pitcher who was their best starter.

2. This team had 5 pitchers who had won or would go on to win 200 games.

Answer to numero uno

200 game winners by 1954

Bob Lemon
Early Wynn
Bob Feller
Hal Newhouser

Best starter by ERA - Mike Garcia

Hall of Fame of Ears - Don Mossi

Team - the Cleveland Indians

Peter_Spaeth 07-22-2015 11:58 AM

Not the one I had in mind but good. Mine requires another HOF pitcher and another pitcher who was their best starter.

Peter_Spaeth 07-22-2015 12:26 PM

1956 to present: Moe Drabowsky, Goose Gossage, A Rod.

scotgreb 07-22-2015 12:27 PM

Excerpts from the attached article . . .

Eddie Murray's the eighth man. When he broke in, Brooks Robinson was still playing. And when Robinson broke in, Bob Feller was still playing. And when Feller broke in, Rogers Hornsby was still playing. And when Hornsby broke in, Honus Wagner was still playing. And when Wagner broke in, Cap Anson was still playing. And when Anson broke in, Dickey Pearce was still playing. And when Pearce broke in, Doc Adams was still playing. Adams played for the Knickerbocker club in the first organized game of baseball in 1846, number one of the eight men whose careers cover the 152 seasons since.

B.J. Upton played with Fred McGriff who played with Phil Niekro who played with Warren Spahn who played with Ernie Lombardi who played with Jack Quinn who played with Willie Keeler who played with Jim O'Rourke who played with George Wright who started at shortstop for the first all-professional team, the 1869 Cincinnati Reds.

http://www.battersbox.ca/article.php...50220021202197

bdk1976 07-22-2015 12:29 PM

Can we include the negro leagues and minors? A bit of a stretch, but:

Satchel Paige (1926-1966)
Johnny Bench (1966-1983)
Greg Harris (1983-1995)

bdk1976 07-22-2015 12:36 PM

Actually was looking at guys who played on the same team. We can obviously expand this at least through 2007 otherwise...

7nohitter 07-22-2015 12:47 PM

Gotta think someone could weave Nolan Ryan and Darren Oliver (1993; Ryan's last and Oliver's first year) with a player Ryan played with in '66 or '68...

between Oliver and Ryan you get '66-2013....

Best I could do was Roy McMillan who started in 1951....

So 1951-2013...62 years there

OR...are we including managers? Manager of the '66 Mets was Wes Westrum, who made his debut in '47.....1947-2013 is 66 years.

bdk1976 07-22-2015 01:25 PM

If we include managers and players I came up with

Connie Mack 1886-1950
Managed Bobby Shantz 1950-1964
Played for Gene Mauch 1964-1987
Managed Mark Mclemore 1987-2004
Played with Nick Swisher (2004-2015)

rats60 07-22-2015 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1433908)
Answer to numero uno

200 game winners by 1954

Bob Lemon
Early Wynn
Bob Feller
Hal Newhouser

Best starter by ERA - Mike Garcia

Hall of Fame of Ears - Don Mossi

Team - the Cleveland Indians

Team one is the 1980 New York Yankees with 200 game winners
Tommy John
Luis Tiant
Gaylord Perry
Jim Kaat

Best starter
Ron Guidry

Other Hofer
Goose Gossage

Early Wynn won game 200 in 1955
Bob Lemon won game 200 in 1956

Peter_Spaeth 07-22-2015 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 1433937)
Team one is the 1980 New York Yankees with 200 game winners
Tommy John
Luis Tiant
Gaylord Perry
Jim Kaat

Best starter
Ron Guidry

Other Hofer
Goose Gossage

Early Wynn won game 200 in 1955
Bob Lemon won game 200 in 1956

Yep. But Frank's answer might have been the answer to a different question.:)

Peter_Spaeth 07-22-2015 04:23 PM

Frank Robinson-Dennis Eckersley-Jason Giambi gets you 59 years 1956-2014

mark evans 07-22-2015 07:58 PM

Neat thread. One of the reasons I'm addicted to the Board. Thanks, Peter.

Mark

Peter_Spaeth 07-22-2015 09:50 PM

Team no. 2 from the second trivia question is still unidentified. Perhaps Dr. Frank wants to redeem himself?

frankbmd 07-23-2015 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1434103)
Team no. 2 from the second trivia question is still unidentified. Perhaps Dr. Frank wants to redeem himself?

Let's see. That team played with nine men. They were in the American or National League. Hmmmmmmm.......................... I'm almost there. Give me another minute or two.:p

Peter_Spaeth 07-23-2015 08:14 AM

Here's a clue -- Nolan Ryan was one of the five.

sac_bunt 07-23-2015 10:33 AM

Wow, I would not have thought...
 
the 89 & 90 Texas Rangers.
That's a great question.

brewing 07-23-2015 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1433895)



2. This team had 5 pitchers who had won or would go on to win 200 games.

Good one Peter, I had to look it up.

Peter_Spaeth 07-23-2015 10:59 AM

Nolan Ryan
Kenny Rogers
Charlie Hough
Jamie Moyer
Kevin Brown

Peter_Spaeth 09-16-2015 08:48 PM

If you take out the teammate requirement, and substitute a played against one, you get this question, not difficult but still pretty amazing. Name a pitcher who pitched to both a player who started in 1939 and a player who retired in 2007, 68 years apart.


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