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Snapolit1 12-17-2022 09:26 AM

First under appreciated player that pops into your head
 
Name first one you think of. Just one.....

Not his collectibles, but as a player. . .



Jimmie Foxx

brunswickreeves 12-17-2022 09:34 AM

Rogers Hornsby

ClementeFanOh 12-17-2022 09:42 AM

Underappreciated
 
Jim Maloney- Trent King

Lorewalker 12-17-2022 09:50 AM

Absolutely Jimmie Foxx.

NiceDocter 12-17-2022 09:56 AM

Better than you think
 
Paul Blair

Carter08 12-17-2022 09:58 AM

Pitcher: Spahn
Hitter: Carew

Casey2296 12-17-2022 09:59 AM

Hornsby

MR RAREBACK 12-17-2022 10:28 AM

Rogers Hornsby
Hank Greenberg

mybuddyinc 12-17-2022 10:29 AM

easy ............... Eddie Collins

ClementeFanOh 12-17-2022 10:46 AM

Under appreciated
 
Nice call on Paul Blair, Rocky! How about David Concepcion? Trent King

bnorth 12-17-2022 10:47 AM

Eddie Mathews, That could easily happen to anyone when Hank Aaron is your teammate.

riggs336 12-17-2022 11:05 AM

Lefty Grove

G1911 12-17-2022 11:06 AM

Roger Bresnahan

packs 12-17-2022 11:12 AM

Mel Ott. Gets very little attention for such a beast in his time. Similar to Foxx.

dealme 12-17-2022 11:27 AM

Vada Pinson


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scotgreb 12-17-2022 11:35 AM

Frank Robinson

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conor912 12-17-2022 11:40 AM

Warren Spahn

Peter_Spaeth 12-17-2022 11:42 AM

Grover Alexander. Always seems to be relegated to a tier below Young Johnson Mathewson and Grove among prewar pitchers but should not be IMO.

Mark17 12-17-2022 11:43 AM

Eddie Murray. Switch-hitting power hitters are very rare.

milkit1 12-17-2022 11:45 AM

Johnny kling

Hankphenom 12-17-2022 11:47 AM

Worthy Nats
 
Cecil Travis
Mickey Vernon
Camilo Pascual

Every one in the HOF playing their careers for most other teams

EddieP 12-17-2022 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by scotgreb (Post 2295079)
Frank Robinson

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Originally Posted by dealme (Post 2295074)
Vada Pinson


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Frank Robinson, Vada Pinson and Curt Flood were HS teammates. Frank Robinson was also a HS classmate of Bill Russell.

Seven 12-17-2022 12:29 PM

Jimmie Foxx for sure.

Feel like Stan Musial doesn't get much love outside of baseball circles, nor does Carl Yastrzemski.

Casey2296 12-17-2022 12:59 PM

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Mel Ott. Gets very little attention for such a beast in his time. Similar to Foxx.

Good call on Ott, super under appreciated for the first National Leaguer to hit 500 home runs. and every thread needs a card.
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Al C.risafulli 12-17-2022 01:04 PM

Frank Robinson. Always Frank Robinson.

-Al

Jason19th 12-17-2022 01:06 PM

Firpo Marberry- first great reliever

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Frank Robinson for me as well.

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carlsonjok 12-17-2022 01:19 PM

Maybe it is just me, but I struggle with players like Jimmie Foxx and Frank Robinson being underrated. But, I get that there is a difference between an absolute and relative scale. Those two are certainly underrated *relative* to some of their contemporaries, but are widely considered greats of the game (an absolute scale.)

I like the suggestion of Paul Blair, mainly because I have a Blair player collection. But, as someone who grew up rooting for the late '70s Yankees, I'd consider guys like Willie Randolph (65.9 WAR) and Graig Nettles (68.0 WAR) as not getting near enough love.

Hankphenom 12-17-2022 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason19th (Post 2295115)
Firpo Marberry- first great reliever

Good call on the tall Texan. Some serious history-making there but pretty much unknown outside of Nats buffs and even though tied in closely with Walter Johnson, Bucky Harris, and their back-to-back pennants in 1924-25..

puckpaul 12-17-2022 01:40 PM

Tempting to go for Foxx, Musial or Ott, but i would say Jerry Koosman. Big time lefty. If those Mets teams didn’t generally suck, he wins a lot more games. He still won 222 games, and his stats compare favorably to Jim Kaat for instance. Better ERA, same WHIP, 18 years vs 24 years, but aside from Kaat’s extra longevity stats, you might easily take him over Kaat. Good hitter too, and 4-0 in playoffs and World Series and led the Mets to the 69 title in game 5.

Collectors know, though, just look at the price of his rookie card! ;-)

skil55voy 12-17-2022 01:44 PM

Player
 
Curt Flood. Without him there would be no free agency.

Jason19th 12-17-2022 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by skil55voy (Post 2295133)
Curt Flood. Without him there would be no free agency.

I may get some flack for this one but much like the great Indian Jones in Raiders of the Lost Ark, free agency happens regardless of what Flood does. Flood took a brave stance and deserves to be recognized, but he lost his case and it didn’t really move the needle on the issue

perezfan 12-17-2022 03:06 PM

To me, "overlooked" indicates a non-HOFer. My under-appreciated player is Dave Concepcion.

Econteachert205 12-17-2022 03:08 PM

Doc Cramer

nickedson 12-17-2022 03:09 PM

Vic Power.

Peter_Spaeth 12-17-2022 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason19th (Post 2295141)
I may get some flack for this one but much like the great Indian Jones in Raiders of the Lost Ark, free agency happens regardless of what Flood does. Flood took a brave stance and deserves to be recognized, but he lost his case and it didn’t really move the needle on the issue

Michael's phrasing was perhaps not the best, but still Flood was an important figure and even if he was short term unsuccessful he raised awareness and inspired others along the path. That it may have been inevitable doesn't really diminish him, so too was civil rights and many other historical trends but we still rightly revere certain leaders.

oldjudge 12-17-2022 03:14 PM

Dave Orr. He is Pete Browning without the bat story and a better fielder. His annual hitting line is almost identical to Dan Brouthers’ except his career was cut short by a stroke. In his one year playing against NL stars (1890 Players League) he was second in batting (.371) and second in RBIs (124).

gonefishin 12-17-2022 03:15 PM

Chuck Connors - Dodgers & Cubs

nebboy 12-17-2022 03:20 PM

Hal Chase - I know, I know about being and ass and gambling along with his colorful personality - but his skill on the diamond was very impressive. If you interested the Black prince of baseball is a good read.

BioCRN 12-17-2022 03:41 PM

Stan Hack.

Hell of a hitter (.301/.394/.397 over 16 seasons, 8509 PA) and an above average defender at 3rd (great glove, not as great arm).

Even among Cubs fans he's mostly an "oh yeah, that guy was pretty good" afterthought even though he played his entire career with them and coached/managed in the Cubs system for many years following his playing career.

Hack was a huge collector of Cubs memorabilia, too.

G1911 12-17-2022 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BioCRN (Post 2295166)
Stan Hack.

Hell of a hitter (.301/.394/.397 over 16 seasons, 8509 PA) and an above average defender at 3rd (great glove, not as great arm).

Even among Cubs fans he's mostly an "oh yeah, that guy was pretty good" afterthought even though he played his entire career with them and coached/managed in the Cubs system for many years following his playing career.

Hack was a huge collector of Cubs memorabilia, too.

This is a really good one.

I think most of the most underrated are 1) players who made the Hall but are almost universally panned for being in the Hall and there historical reputation becomes ‘that guy who is in the Hall but should not be’, and they never get credit for being very very good players in actual merit, or 2) players like Hack who just miss the Hall debates and have faded into complete and total obscurity even though they were very very good players as well.

jingram058 12-17-2022 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom (Post 2295085)
Cecil Travis
Mickey Vernon
Camilo Pascual

Every one in the HOF playing their careers for most other teams

+1 could not agree more

GeoPoto 12-17-2022 04:08 PM

Eddie Yost
 
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Jstottlemire1 12-17-2022 04:12 PM

Lou Gehrig

Yoda 12-17-2022 04:12 PM

George Sisler.

Johnny630 12-17-2022 04:16 PM

Eddie Murray

Robbie 12-17-2022 05:18 PM

The "Mechanical Man"

D. Bergin 12-17-2022 05:18 PM

Frank Robinson was the 1st one to pop into my head, as the question suggested. Don’t know if it’s the right answer, but it’s the honest one. ;)

JollyElm 12-17-2022 05:39 PM

Jeff frickin' Kent. Come on now!!

Bigdaddy 12-17-2022 05:50 PM

Al Oliver. Man could rake.


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