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Archive 08-25-2005 06:52 PM

33G Ruth PSA 7 -- why would the seller hide the cert. #
 
Posted By: <b>Peter Spaeth</b><p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1933-Goudey-Babe-Ruth-53-PSA-7_W0QQitemZ5234061588QQcategoryZ86843QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1933-Goudey-Babe-Ruth-53-PSA-7_W0QQitemZ5234061588QQcategoryZ86843QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a>

Archive 08-25-2005 06:56 PM

33G Ruth PSA 7 -- why would the seller hide the cert. #
 
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>self explanatory in the description, prevent people from stealing the image and scamming other people. <br /><br />If the seller emails the cert #, you can still verify the card on the PSA website<br /><br />Brian

Archive 08-25-2005 06:58 PM

33G Ruth PSA 7 -- why would the seller hide the cert. #
 
Posted By: <b>DJ</b><p>Security reasons of course! <br /><br />I have seen this on a couple occasions on eBay and the seller's response was because of security reasons. They feared that the certification number would be stolen. <br /><br />DJ

Archive 08-25-2005 07:05 PM

33G Ruth PSA 7 -- why would the seller hide the cert. #
 
Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p>I am not a centering freak, but that card is really off-centered for an unqualified 7.

Archive 08-25-2005 07:05 PM

33G Ruth PSA 7 -- why would the seller hide the cert. #
 
Posted By: <b>Peter Spaeth</b><p>Wes I had the same thought about the centering. Although maybe the scan distorts it a little because it is so small?

Archive 08-25-2005 07:07 PM

33G Ruth PSA 7 -- why would the seller hide the cert. #
 
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>However, it would be a little difficult (not a lot difficult) to supply a legit cert #

Archive 08-25-2005 07:08 PM

33G Ruth PSA 7 -- why would the seller hide the cert. #
 
Posted By: <b>Peter Spaeth</b><p>Someone could steal the scan, get the real cert number from the seller, use the same scan later, and supply the real cert.

Archive 08-25-2005 07:11 PM

33G Ruth PSA 7 -- why would the seller hide the cert. #
 
Posted By: <b>Charlie O'Neal</b><p>I think it is more effective to write your name on the tape covering the cert number. Like it is right now all I would have to do is email the seller to get the cert. number and I would still be able to steal the picture and list it next month. I tend to shy away from auctions like this for that very reason. Eventhough I can't afford the card in in the first place.

Archive 08-25-2005 07:40 PM

33G Ruth PSA 7 -- why would the seller hide the cert. #
 
Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p>I emailed him and got the certification number. I have also in the past won a 1934 Goudey Gehrig #61 PSA 8 from him, and received the card without any problems. The guy is legit. <br /><br />As for the centering, yes it is off center, but the last two PSA 7 53 Ruths that have been up for auction (Sothebys and Memory Lane) have been oc too. You could argue none of them should be 7s though and I wouldn't argue back. <br /><br />Here's the Sothebys card<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1125020331.JPG"> <br /><br />And here's the Memory Lane card<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1125020417.JPG">

Archive 08-25-2005 07:48 PM

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Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p>There are a few things I don't like about PSA (gasp), although I do like them in general. One of those things is that they don't punish the grade of a card when it is very off center from L/R, but will when it is equivalently off center from T/B. Why is this? I don't know. But as you can see in all these three PSA 7 Ruths, they are all around 90/10 or so L/R. With the same centering T/B, it wouldn't get higher than a 6...at least based on the cards I have or have seen. For me, L/R off centering really bothers me because it is very noticeable...but T/B off centering doesn't bother me nearly as much. So getting a PSA 6 with T/B oc with PSA 8 corners is a great bargain for this collector.

Archive 08-25-2005 08:40 PM

33G Ruth PSA 7 -- why would the seller hide the cert. #
 
Posted By: <b>joe brennan</b><p>Its poosible that the submitter ask for no qualifiers. Theses cards could be legit 9 oc's and with a request for no qualifiers knocked them 2 grades to a 7. Just a thought. <br><br>Moral Values " What would you do if no one was looking? Only you would know" Instilled in me by James W. Brennan Sr.

Archive 08-25-2005 08:51 PM

33G Ruth PSA 7 -- why would the seller hide the cert. #
 
Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>Actually, if the owner asked for no qualifiers and they were truly centered 90/10, it wouldnt knock the cards from a nine to a 7 - it should knock the cards all the way down to a 2 or 3 (or whatever the maximum grade is that permits 90/10 centering).

Archive 08-26-2005 07:10 AM

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Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>Thank You, Josh! That's absolutely right. IF PSA follows their own rules THEN what you said is CORRECT!!!

Archive 08-26-2005 09:15 AM

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Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>Wish I could afford it. I will be curious to see what this one goes for, being that the seller says it went for $11,500 a few years ago from Mastro.


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