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bobbvc 05-30-2012 09:33 PM

Player identity help. SGC submission.
 
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I recently sent these 3 RPPC's to SGC for authentication and encapsulation. I got a call from Earl in customer service (very nice man) that they can confirm the circa 1910 date based on the manufacturing style and back of PC, but they could not positively identify the player. Who is this player? I do appreciate the diligence of SGC on the matter. Thanks.

HRBAKER 05-30-2012 09:39 PM

Looks like Honus to me.
Is it April 1st? Beautiful PCs.

FrankWakefield 05-30-2012 09:39 PM

Honus.

chaddurbin 05-30-2012 09:43 PM

is sgc looking for the board's opinion to make a final decision?

not knowing the 1910 pirates' uni it looks like honus to me with the subject's mannerism

nolemmings 05-30-2012 09:43 PM

ru Serious?
 
Really. Gee, who might it be? I get diligence, but c'mon, have a spine.

Bicem 05-30-2012 10:02 PM

SGC's reluctance to id players in real-photo postcards, even when so blatantly obvious, has become ridiculous. This does not surprise me at all. Pathetic.

FrankWakefield 05-30-2012 10:09 PM

I think those are from spring training for the 1913 season. Hot Springs, Arkansas. And I'd go with the first week of April...

bobbvc 05-30-2012 10:26 PM

Thanks guys. Surprise on my part would be putting it mildly. But again, you got to like the diligence. I told Earl I would be soliciting opinions, for better or worse.

Jaybird 05-30-2012 11:07 PM

A little silly in this case. I understand some mis-IDs and wanting to be sure but when the subject takes up the entire image and is clearly in frame and visible, what more do you need?

Anthony S. 05-30-2012 11:30 PM

Sweet Rube Foster postcards.

wonkaticket 05-30-2012 11:37 PM

This is a joke right? :confused:

Boy I hope so....

packs 05-31-2012 12:33 AM

This picture of Honus Wagner doesn't say Honus Wagner on it.

E93 05-31-2012 03:36 AM

Looks like Willie Stargell, HOF Pirate to me. :p

HONUS
JimB

t206blogcom 05-31-2012 05:16 AM

Honus Wagner - no doubt and pretty obvious.

martin neal 05-31-2012 05:56 AM

George C. Scott?

bcbgcbrcb 05-31-2012 06:36 AM

Wagner

Bicem 05-31-2012 06:44 AM

it's one thing to do due diligence and another having eyes.

phikappapsi 05-31-2012 07:00 AM

Unless theyre having trouble identifying the 3rd basemans ass...I don't know what the question is...

ullmandds 05-31-2012 07:03 AM

that's kinda like posting a card for sale...accepting offers!!!!!

jcmtiger 05-31-2012 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phikappapsi (Post 999001)
Unless theyre having trouble identifying the 3rd basemans ass...I don't know what the question is...


That was my thought.:eek:

Joe

fkw 05-31-2012 11:47 AM

all 3 of them are easily IDed as Honus. He is the only guy that looks like that ;)

Leon 05-31-2012 11:55 AM

Jamie Moyer

tbob 05-31-2012 12:00 PM

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Wagner in Hot Springs.

t206fix 05-31-2012 12:36 PM

I see a squirrel in the trees...
 
I see a squirrel in the trees, so it must be Skip Schumaker!

FrankWakefield 05-31-2012 04:01 PM

tbob, you've got some stuff...

Didn't see the squirrel. But if you look at the second row from the top, that kid on a row all by himself, that is young Barry Sloate, the ears are a match. tbob, I'm surprised Barry hasn't tried to buy that from you. Maybe you could get him to autograph it.

FrankWakefield 05-31-2012 04:40 PM

Alright... Adams and O'Toole, April 1st, 1913... spring training at Hot Springs.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j1...trainingpc.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ningpcback.jpg

I knew I had this somewhere. I was getting worried when I couldn't find it.

glynparson 06-01-2012 12:45 AM

maybe if one of their buddies had submitted
 
then they'd probably be id'd as Honus, come on guys who the hell do you think it could be but Wagner?

gnaz01 06-01-2012 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbvc (Post 998905)
Who is this player?

Isn't it Shoeless Joe?? (sorry I couldn't resist) :D

bobbvc 06-01-2012 05:33 PM

Slabbed.
 
Haven't seen the slabs yet but received a 40, 10, 10. Id'd as Wagner. Will post pics when received. Thanks to all for the input. Again, nice work by Earl the customer service rep. Thanks!

danmckee 06-01-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 998917)
SGC's reluctance to id players in real-photo postcards, even when so blatantly obvious, has become ridiculous. This does not surprise me at all. Pathetic.

Yea funny when they have no problem slabbing FAKE postcards as real.

That company misses Derek!

pclpads 06-01-2012 05:49 PM

SGC's cred as a TPG just flew out the window if they can't make an obvious call on this one. :confused:

HercDriver 06-01-2012 05:56 PM

Shoeless?
 
Can't be Shoeless Joe...he doesn't have white on his socks and he's not sliding into third. Those are two sure indicators that it's Jackson...

Cheers,
Geno

Bicem 06-03-2012 08:46 PM

Also crazy that SGC will authenticate autographs but are so reluctant to id players. Apparently, someone's handwriting is easier to authenticate than their face.

Leon 06-04-2012 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 1000508)
Also crazy that SGC will authenticate autographs but are so reluctant to id players. Apparently, someone's handwriting is easier to authenticate than their face.

SGC doesn't authenticate autographs. Try again. For the record I think they do a great job and I also think they should have made the call on this one. It wasn't a tough call at all. But it is better to be safe than sorry.

calvindog 06-04-2012 10:15 AM

Peter Chao.

Bicem 06-04-2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1000601)
SGC doesn't authenticate autographs. Try again. For the record I think they do a great job and I also think they should have made the call on this one. It wasn't a tough call at all. But it is better to be safe than sorry.

They don't? They slab Spence cards, same difference to me as that's saying they believe the auto is legit.

http://www.halloffamememorabilia.com...185o96solx.jpg


There's no way they "do a great job" when it comes to player id on rppc's. They do no job. Why should a customer have to come to a message board and solicit opinions, especially on such an obvious id?

Bicem 06-04-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1000602)
Peter Chao.

is still my hero.

MW1 06-04-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1000602)
Peter Chao.

You miss him, don't you?

bobbvc 06-04-2012 10:01 PM

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here's one...

bobbvc 06-04-2012 10:05 PM

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here's another...

Bicem 06-04-2012 10:12 PM

they look nice, glad it worked out for you.

Jay Wolt 06-05-2012 06:01 AM

The PC's look great, but why the low grade? They present much better then "poor 10's"
If its because there's writing on the back, isn't that the intended purpose of a postcard?

bobbvc 06-05-2012 08:54 AM

Backs
 
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The two 10's are the top two in this pic. Minor back damage was the cause of the low grades on those. Happy with the 40 on the other one. Actually, not too concerned at all with the grading #'s. Just wanted them protected.


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