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samosa4u 09-14-2017 12:28 PM

Lou Gehrig RETIRADO Card:
 
Hello my grumpy friends! :)

I don't collect baseball, but I do enjoy checking them out online from time-to-time. Now I just came across this card on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Venezue....c100011.m1850

I don't know Spanish, but this card has the word "retirado" on the front. Doesn't that mean retired? :eek: Gehrig had been dead for 26 years when this card was manufactured, and they wrote retired on it? This is pretty insulting if you ask me - what do you guys think? Oh, and I'm also surprised how high the price is because I wouldn't spend $5 on it.

ullmandds 09-14-2017 12:30 PM

its a tough card...maybe it should have said "expirado?"

Snapolit1 09-14-2017 12:39 PM

They produced a series of cards that year, and there was a set of retired players. Gehrig and others. Why is this insulting or anything else? Don't see the point.

This is a quite rare card and I suspect a lot of people would be interested adding to their collection the highest graded PASTEBOARD EXTANT.

Aquarian Sports Cards 09-14-2017 12:48 PM

This is gonna go crazy in the last few minutes, nice job outing it, is the OP actually the consignor? lol.

autograf 09-14-2017 12:52 PM

To find any of those 50 retirado cards in even a 3-4-5 is huge but a 7! Wow. Love the subset of that years Venezuela cards......I too wondered if the OP was the consignor. Stranger things have happened.

Snapolit1 09-14-2017 01:04 PM

I was going to bid on this highest in existence Gehrig one of a kind pasteboard, but now see that one of the leading bidders has 64.9% of his recent bids in other PWCC auctions. That's just too high. Everyone should steer clear.

samosa4u 09-14-2017 01:11 PM

I don't own a single baseball card. I collected hockey all my life and now I am starting to go after soccer, boxing and non-sports. I really love the old film cards.

aconte 09-14-2017 01:31 PM

Sweet Card!
 
I might have to set a snipe on that bad boy!

bnorth 09-14-2017 01:52 PM

WOW a 7 is crazy in that set. I had a Joe DiMaggio 3 for a while I traded to a fellow forum member. To me they are very ugly cards in hand.

Snapolit1 09-14-2017 02:18 PM

I wouldn't argue they are beautiful cards, but the funky coloring is certainly odd and very unique.

Forever Young 09-14-2017 02:30 PM

I love this set.
 
2 Attachment(s)
My Type 1 original photo example.

Interesting how our tastes differ. I love these cards in hand. I have a gehrig and a Ruth to go with my photos.

aloondilana 09-14-2017 03:12 PM

Thank you for bringing this card to my attention.
Maybe the OP is the consignor, his tactics worked I guess, cause I just smacked this card good.

Snapolit1 09-14-2017 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aloondilana (Post 1700982)
Thank you for bringing this card to my attention.
Maybe the OP is the consignor, his tactics worked I guess, cause I just smacked this card good.

Over $2,200. I'm relieved no one bids on PWCC auctions anymore.

Forever Young 09-14-2017 05:29 PM

Yikes.. if one was really in it to win it, why bid now? Snipe is the way to go. Craziness

bn2cardz 09-14-2017 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever Young (Post 1700966)
My Type 1 original photo example.

Interesting how our tastes differ. I love these cards in hand. I have a gehrig and a Ruth to go with my photos.

I have the Cochrane original image for the set.


http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/...7/67-153Fr.jpghttps://farm5.staticflickr.com/4358/...7e81acef_b.jpg

Forever Young 09-14-2017 07:21 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 1701096)
I have the Cochrane original image for the set.

Love it! I got the Ruth to go with Lou.

Sean 09-14-2017 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 1701005)
Over $2,200. I'm relieved no one bids on PWCC auctions anymore.

Peter said it just yesterday: stuff trumps all.

Aquarian Sports Cards 09-14-2017 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever Young (Post 1701100)
Love it! I got the Ruth to go with Lou.

freaky crop job on Babe's head!

nsaddict 09-14-2017 08:23 PM

The OP doesn't even collect baseball. Trying to figure out why he posted this in the first place?

JollyElm 09-14-2017 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever Young (Post 1701100)
Love it! I got the Ruth to go with Lou.

It looks like there's a dark outline subtly added to your Ruth shot. It is especially visible around his legs/butt. Not sure if it affects anything, and I'm sure you're already aware of it, but I'd thought I would point it out anyway.

Forever Young 09-14-2017 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 1701122)
It looks like there's a dark outline subtly added to your Ruth shot. It is especially visible around his legs/butt. Not sure if it affects anything, and I'm sure you're already aware of it, but I'd thought I would point it out anyway.

Ha! Yes..These are original editorial marks that I left on. Thank you for pointing them out:)

Sean 09-14-2017 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsaddict (Post 1701117)
The OP doesn't even collect baseball. Trying to figure out why he posted this in the first place?

I think that he didn't know what it was, and was curious about it.

samosa4u 09-14-2017 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsaddict (Post 1701117)
The OP doesn't even collect baseball. Trying to figure out why he posted this in the first place?

So in order to discuss baseball cards you have to collect them? :) I did own some in the past, including a few Mantles, but sold them. I don't collect them anymore, but I still appreciate them.

Now are there any Spanish folks on here? Don't you think it would have made more sense to put "difunto" on the Gehrig card instead?

aljurgela 09-14-2017 09:51 PM

Not offensive
 
As a primary collector of Latin card and fluent Spanish speaker, the title on the cards is not offensive at all. It just means that they were retired. As opposed to active players. That's all. Some living. Some not.

Snapolit1 09-15-2017 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aljurgela (Post 1701134)
As a primary collector of Latin card and fluent Spanish speaker, the title on the cards is not offensive at all. It just means that they were retired. As opposed to active players. That's all. Some living. Some not.

Went for $2313. Really really cool card, and the condition is unreal. I was in the bidding until pretty late, but at the end of the day just couldn't justify that lofty price tag for a card that came out 26 years after he died.

steve B 09-15-2017 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 1701195)
Went for $2313. Really really cool card, and the condition is unreal. I was in the bidding until pretty late, but at the end of the day just couldn't justify that lofty price tag for a card that came out 26 years after he died.

LOL

"The high bidders percentage is too high stay away"

"I was in it right up to the end"


Almost the oldest auction trick there is. And it hardly ever works.

samosa4u 09-15-2017 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 1701195)
Went for $2313. Really really cool card, and the condition is unreal. I was in the bidding until pretty late, but at the end of the day just couldn't justify that lofty price tag for a card that came out 26 years after he died.

It went for $3700, dude! :eek::confused: Did this thread play a role in that? Hmmm ... I doubt it, because if it did, then I will be starting a new one soon (when I want to sell my vintage creased up hockey cards). :)

Snapolit1 09-15-2017 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve B (Post 1701212)
LOL

"The high bidders percentage is too high stay away"

"I was in it right up to the end"


Almost the oldest auction trick there is. And it hardly ever works.

That was my attempt at board satire my friend. I've made crystal clear for years that I bid in PWCC auctions. I think lots of the gripes about them are way overblown. Nevermind redundant. Crooks everywhere.

Snapolit1 09-15-2017 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samosa4u (Post 1701214)
It went for $3700, dude! :eek::confused: Did this thread play a role in that? Hmmm ... I doubt it, because if it did, then I will be starting a new one soon (when I want to sell my vintage creased up hockey cards). :)

You are correct. Guess my phone didn't update eBay this am.

steve B 09-15-2017 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 1701222)
That was my attempt at board satire my friend. I've made crystal clear for years that I bid in PWCC auctions. I think lots of the gripes about them are way overblown. Nevermind redundant. Crooks everywhere.

Ah. I totally missed the gag. Sorry.

Snapolit1 09-15-2017 08:59 AM

If I could get identifying information from most of the leading AHs about who was bidding in their auctions and how often, and how often bidders retracted bids and just refused to pay, I'm sure I'd have a new hobby tomorrow. As pointed out before, some of these places explicitly reserve the right to bid on their own items. Bidding against the place running the auction. Now that's a kick.


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