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G1911 03-19-2024 12:19 PM

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On the complete opposite end of the price spectrum, when I see the poster and album cuts cheap I'm grabbing them to go alongside my Ginter boxing set. These two are from the advertising poster. I still need a Jimmy Carroll N28 card to finish the N28/N29's, one will come along soon enough.

Smith was a British champion, Lannon a gatekeeper type. Both were not the scientific type of pugilist, Lannon is probably most known for being one of Sullivan's more frequent partners for staged exhibitions than for any of his real fights.

Exhibitman 03-22-2024 10:44 PM

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Had a good night in Heritage...

G1911 03-28-2024 07:56 PM

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Got a fresh batch of tough C52's, including a boxer and one card I needed, #83 Hoppe. Up to 95 out of the 109 cards for my set, with a large number of duplicates to trade.

G1911 04-06-2024 12:13 PM

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An upgrade for once, even if it's still creased.

G1911 04-18-2024 03:09 PM

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Picked these up recently, Wilson should be a welcome downgrade for my beater set. I don't really see why Wilson and Beecher wouldn't qualify for a number grade, but they'll be cracked out anyways. These slabs are clearly going to damage the cards even more as there is nothing holding them in position and even light handling bounces the card up and down into the top and bottom bars.

Exhibitman 04-18-2024 06:45 PM

If I might mix brands, I don't know why the submitter even bothers to get a bulls**t grade from a horses***t grading service in the first place.

D. Bergin 04-19-2024 11:54 AM

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Picked up these two bout sheets/fight announcements a little while back. Likely unique in their survival (or close to it). They weren't giveaways, but nobody else seemed to have an interest in bidding on them.

No real superstars, but some Champions (self-described and otherwise), and lots of boxers who featured in tobacco sets of the day.

Found the name "Tug Collins" interesting. Wonder if that might have been Tug Wilson, who may have been in the area during that time period, and whose actual given name was "John Collins".

Also: "J. Carrol". Not sure if that's the "Jimmy Carroll" from the N28 A&G Set, or another Jimmy Carroll of that time period.

G1911 04-19-2024 12:12 PM

Looks live it is indeed Jimmy Carroll of the A&G set. Cyber Boxing Zone has that Jimmy Carroll fighting a J.H. O'Neal on October 31st, lining up perfectly. http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/carroll-jimmy.htm

Tug Collins I can't find a photo of. His Boxrec lists only 3 fights, against Duffy twice and Havlin. That's awfully high competition for a guy who never did anything else. https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/64261. Wilson was in the US in 1882, returned to England to fight Mitchell in 1883, but was back in the US again in 1886 at the latest. I suspect this guy might be Tug Wilson.

Those are awesome pieces, Dave

D. Bergin 04-20-2024 08:26 AM

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Looks live it is indeed Jimmy Carroll of the A&G set. Cyber Boxing Zone has that Jimmy Carroll fighting a J.H. O'Neal on October 31st, lining up perfectly. http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/carroll-jimmy.htm

Tug Collins I can't find a photo of. His Boxrec lists only 3 fights, against Duffy twice and Havlin. That's awfully high competition for a guy who never did anything else. https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/64261. Wilson was in the US in 1882, returned to England to fight Mitchell in 1883, but was back in the US again in 1886 at the latest. I suspect this guy might be Tug Wilson.

Those are awesome pieces, Dave


Thanks Greg. My anti-malware on my desktop is deathly afraid of Cyberboxingzone, so I wasn’t able to access Jimmy Carroll’s page there.

Was able to get it through your link on my phone though, so that pretty much settles it. I found it very interesting that Carroll had such a close association with George LaBlanche, who was also on that card.

Cyberboxingzone is great for a lot of fighters from that era and earlier, as they cover a lot of ground that Boxrec doesn’t recognize.They’re also great for tracking exhibition bouts that Boxrec doesn’t list for both newer and older era fighters.

Was bummed I couldn’t access them, and too paranoid of malware to make an exception for it in my program.

Tug was always a bit of an enigma, so wouldn’t be surprised if he was using his other name on occasion, for whatever reason.

G1911 05-03-2024 10:11 PM

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Snagged a couple red backs for $20, which are pretty tough. Unfortunately they were two I had but I upgraded my absolute beaters. Going to be a long time before this set gets finished.

G1911 05-06-2024 02:44 PM

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28/50 down for the T223's. This is the T set I have put the least effort into, as a clone of T220 that does not look as good. I need to rectify this effort and finish it, as the more the research progresses the more I think the separation into T220 and T223 does not really make much sense and they should be catalogued as one series (or Tolstoi should also be broken off also reflecting it's different issue period). With my T220 master set complete, this unfortunate cataloguing situation means I have to get them all.

G1911 05-11-2024 04:45 PM

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And some more silver cardboard while I impatiently wait for my needs to crop up for sale or trade.

Bill77 05-13-2024 12:47 PM

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Cool press photo of Gene Tunney I found on ebay.

D. Bergin 05-13-2024 02:02 PM

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Cool press photo of Gene Tunney I found on ebay.


Damn, that Tuna is more then twice the size of Dempsey.

If Tunney actually caught it on that reel by himself (I'd have to guess he had a little bit of help), I'd imagine it had to be one of the toughest fights of his life....Dempsey and Greb included.

:eek:

G1911 05-13-2024 02:48 PM

Fantastic, that's the coolest photo I've seen in a minute.

D. Bergin 05-15-2024 02:51 PM

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Picked up a Thomas Hearns, Pipino Cuevas, Funk Brothers sticker sheet from Japan. Issued October 1981 by "Gong".

Earliest Hearns issue that I know of....if you want to call it a card. If not.......well..........then no. ;)

Will go with my similar Salvador Sanchez issued a little earlier. Not quite the condition I wanted, but it's a crap shoot when you order these from overseas. There's also an Arguello I'll probably pick up when I see one I like that doesn't cost 30 bucks to ship over.

Not sure if there's any other boxers issued in sticker sheets like this during this time period. I know there's at least a couple other sheets that just have wrestlers on them.

Also came with a neat little retirement booklet for Boxing Hall of Famer, Yoko Gushiken.

psychosem17 05-17-2024 12:38 AM

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John L. Sullivan cabinet and a trimmed cabinet of his manager Billy Madden.

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psychosem17 05-17-2024 12:38 AM

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John L. Sullivan cabinet and a trimmed cabinet of his manager Billy Madden.

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psychosem17 05-17-2024 12:38 AM

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John L. Sullivan cabinet and a trimmed cabinet of his manager Billy Madden.

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G1911 05-18-2024 01:08 PM

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Hopefully some upgrades here for my nice set. Really not a fan of how the cards just bounce all over the place in the older PSA slabs; that cannot be good for preserving condition.

Still trying to positively identify who exactly Glover is with some certainty (thank you to Dave for identifying some possibilities). By random chance of what material survived T220 silver is one of the best documented and evidenced sets of the T/E card explosion in 1909-1912 but we still don't even know who one of the subjects really is. Love boxing-on-the-docks Burke's picture.

Exhibitman 05-19-2024 06:33 AM

The Sanchez is a card; I guess they switched formats later in that year?

ShoeMan 05-19-2024 06:34 AM

1930's Oil Painting
 
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Just got painting back from the framer. My new favorite item!

D. Bergin 05-19-2024 08:54 AM

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The Sanchez is a card; I guess they switched formats later in that year?


There is a sticker that's in a similar format to the Hearns I pictured. Both came out before the Hearns and Sanchez "Gong" cards.

D. Bergin 05-19-2024 08:57 AM

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That's fantastic. Looks like it might be earlier then 1930's. Perhaps French? Maybe an original from a publication cartoon.

What size is it?

ShoeMan 05-19-2024 10:33 AM

Thanks. I can't wait to hang it.
It could be before 1930. It was listed as 1930's. No signature. I wouldn't know how to date it.
It is 4' x 1.5'.

D. Bergin 05-19-2024 10:43 AM

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Thanks. I can't wait to hang it.
It could be before 1930. It was listed as 1930's. No signature. I wouldn't know how to date it.
It is 4' x 1.5'.


There were lots of similar illustrations in French and British boxing and sporting publications in the 1910's and 1920's.

That's a nice size piece you have.


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