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tedzan 11-13-2017 07:44 PM

Let's see some uncut sheets....any sheet from 1887 - 1967
 
Hey guys,
How's about showing off some of your uncut sheets.

I'll start this show with these 4 sheets which comprise a complete W560 set**....circa 1927


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...w560sheeta.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...w560sheetd.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...w560sheetb.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...w560sheetc.jpg


** Incidentally, this set has been mis-classified....obviously, these are not strip cards.


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tedzan 11-13-2017 08:03 PM

Hot off the press from competing GUM company's in 1949


BOWMAN (4th series)
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...seriesheet.jpg



LEAF (1st series)

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eries1x50x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ries1x50xN.jpg


(Excuse the B/W fuzzy picture....this is an old photo of a sheet I had many years ago)



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kmac32 11-13-2017 08:22 PM

Complete W572 strip
 
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Complete uncut strip

scooter729 11-13-2017 08:53 PM

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33G Sport Kings

brass_rat 11-13-2017 09:15 PM

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It's not a whole sheet, but I'd like to play along...

DaveW 11-14-2017 08:48 AM

I love seeing these old sheets! I can't wait to see one from 1887:)

Griffins 11-14-2017 08:53 AM

Here's a few

1908 E91A strips

https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi.../large/E91.jpg

I"m working on a '41 Playball set in uncut form. With the ones below and a stack of others that aren't framed I'm down to needing 16.

https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi...e/Playball.jpg


'34 World Wide Gum
https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi.../34WWG.tif.jpg

1940 W711-2 set
https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi...1Front.tif.jpg

'48 Leaf Boxing, with a few missing their heads
https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi...0Sheet%202.jpg


These last 3 are a bit past Ted's cutoff, but they are some of my favorites so I hope it's ok to include them.

'53 Bowman
https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi...e/53Bsheet.jpg

'55 Topps
https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi...sSheet.tif.jpg

'64 Topps Giants, debunking the myth of short prints that was already pretty obvious to anyone that collected this set from vending packs
https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi...pps_giants.jpg

tedzan 11-14-2017 12:53 PM

Let's see some uncut sheets....any sheet from 1887 - 1952
 
Thanks....Ken, Scott, Steve, Anthony....for posting your uncut sheets and panels.

Let's keep some more of these "original goodies" rolling off the presses.....as a tribute to our hobby.


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jim 11-14-2017 01:44 PM

1925 W504 Brooklyn
 
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MikeGarcia 11-14-2017 02:10 PM

1946 Sports Exchange
 
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...CHANGE_NEW.JPG

..There is no temptation to take this to a professional cutter in order to obtain a Gem Mint 10 Harry "The Hat" Walker...

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stlcardsfan 11-14-2017 02:28 PM

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Does this count? Not a sheet but a box lid. And sorry it's from 1955.

bnorth 11-14-2017 02:36 PM

Amazing pieces everyone, thanks for sharing. All my sheets are way too new for this thread.

tedzan 11-14-2017 07:05 PM

Let's see some uncut sheets....any sheet from 1887 - 1952
 
1952 TOPPS (1st series) sheet....cards #41 - 80


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sheet41x80.jpg



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tedzan 11-15-2017 09:00 AM

1959 FLEER Ted Williams set....uncut 6-card panel featuring the rare "Ted Williams Signs For 1959" card (#68).


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...SignsPanel.jpg



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tedzan 11-15-2017 03:27 PM

E91 Set C strip (circa 1909-1910)


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...2cardStrip.jpg


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tedzan 11-15-2017 07:30 PM

Let's see some uncut sheets....any sheet from 1887 - 1952
 
The Michael Pressner & Co. issued this 24-card set in 1943. They were sold in Candy stores and 5 & 10-cent Department stores in the form of 8-card strips........


v............................................... original uncut 8-card complete strip (21 1/2 inches long) ...............................................v

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ReeseMPx7x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ggioMPx7xx.jpg

Above strip enlarged

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eeseMPx50x.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...aggioMPx50.jpg


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rgpete 11-15-2017 08:52 PM

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1922 Bancroft Collins schalk

GasHouseGang 11-16-2017 09:15 AM

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Should we throw this one in there? Obviously, I don't own it. Wish I did!

tedzan 11-16-2017 06:57 PM

Let's see some uncut sheets....any sheet from 1887 - 1952
 
Cards on the 6th sheet of the 1933 Goudey set were issued circa Spring/Summer of '33. This fabulous sheet includes double-printed cards
of Babe Ruth (#144).

Including Babe Ruth (card #149), Lou Gehrig (card #160), Jimmy Foxx (card #154), Leo Durocher (card #147) and Moe Berg (card #158).


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...x2sheet50x.jpg



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tedzan 11-17-2017 06:03 PM

Let's see some uncut sheets....any sheet from 1887 - 1967
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1720893)
Trying to put together a set of these GOUDEY cards in 1933 was quite a frustrating experience. Certain lower number cards (22 cards) were not available in
the Spring and Summer of '33.
Card #'s 97, 98, 128, 129, and 142 were printed on the 9th sheet. And, of course #106 (Lajoie) was printed on the 1934 GOUDEY Hi # sheet, and issued in
the Summer of 1934 which finally completed this 240-card set.
T'was a clever marketing trick that Goudey played on collectors in order to sell a lot of cards in 1933....but, it was also a very "mean" trick on the collectors.


Speaking about the "1933" GOUDEY Lajoie....here's the the 1934 Hi# series sheet (cards #73 - 96) in which GOUDEY modified to include the Lajoie (#106) card.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...rdsheet25x.jpg



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frohme 11-17-2017 07:48 PM

Up/down, left/right all together now...
 
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T212 uncut sheet from 1911 - discussed on Net54 back in 2010, auctioned by H&S that fall (image from H&S).

Note the bottom row in the image - runs horizontal, the rest are vertical.


My interest is that T207 was likely printed via the same process (cards running both horizontally and vertically) as evidenced by an Adams card (shown previously) as well as the example from REA a few weeks ago that has parts of 5 different backs showing (image from auction).

tedzan 11-18-2017 07:02 PM

Let's see some uncut sheets....any sheet from 1887 - 1967
 
When Bowman introduced their first BB card set after WWII, they continued using their "PLAY BALL" Trademark on their wax-pack wrapper.


1948 Bowman 1-cent wrapper
http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r406-1/wrapper-sm.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...manbbsheet.jpg


The printing of the 1948 BOWMAN set is very interesting.....the printer took their 36-card production sheet and produced a 48-card set. In their 1st press runs
they printed cards #1 - 36. Then, in their later press runs they modified their printing plates by replacing 12 cards in the first group of 36 with cards #37 - 48.

The 36-card uncut sheet shown here represents the later press runs. Cards #37 - 48 are interspersed among the lower number cards. Therefore, this process
created Double-Prints of 24 low numbers....Single-Prints of 12 low numbers....and, another set of Single-Prints of the 12 high numbers.


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Rich Klein 11-19-2017 04:13 PM

'64 Topps Giants, debunking the myth of short prints that was already pretty obvious to anyone that collected this set from vending packs
https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi...pps_giants.jpg[/QUOTE]

I just want to point out that the 7 "Short Prints" are all in a row on the left side of this sheet and I wonder, as with many other Topps issues of that time is there a 2nd sheet which would confirm the long-held suspicions of those 7 short prints.

I will also state as a collector/dealer who worked on those sets, those 7 cards tended to show up on most want lists and were far easier to sell.

Also -- I know someone in the DFW area who accumulated a couple hundred (I did not count) of the Mantle and I would certainly call Mantle a Double or even a Triple Print

Rich

brass_rat 11-19-2017 04:31 PM

Up up down down left right left right
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frohme (Post 1721277)
T212 uncut sheet from 1911 - discussed on Net54 back in 2010, auctioned by H&S that fall (image from H&S).

Note the bottom row in the image - runs horizontal, the rest are vertical.


My interest is that T207 was likely printed via the same process (cards running both horizontally and vertically) as evidenced by an Adams card (shown previously) as well as the example from REA a few weeks ago that has parts of 5 different backs showing (image from auction).

Great sheet, Mike. Thanks for adding in the T207 examples as well...nice evidence.

Steve

Mdmtx 11-19-2017 04:41 PM

I wish I had a cool uncut sheet to share, but I don’t. Neat stuff gents.

chalupacollects 11-19-2017 06:46 PM

Super cool stuff!

Leon 11-20-2017 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlcardsfan (Post 1720073)
Does this count? Not a sheet but a box lid. And sorry it's from 1955.

Very cool. Don't remember seeing a box like that. Thanks to all who have shared??

ALR-bishop 11-20-2017 09:29 AM

From the end of the range

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img016.jpg

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...sSheets003.jpg
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...psjnyylkqp.jpg
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...psy4neaumt.jpg

And one year outside range. 1968 prototypes for 69 issue. Only one of them actually used. Different color autos

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img009.jpg
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...539/img007.jpg
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...ps688a8d68.jpg

tedzan 11-20-2017 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frohme (Post 1721277)
T212 uncut sheet from 1911 - discussed on Net54 back in 2010, auctioned by H&S that fall (image from H&S).

Note the bottom row in the image - runs horizontal, the rest are vertical.


My interest is that T207 was likely printed via the same process (cards running both horizontally and vertically) as evidenced by an Adams card (shown previously) as well as the example from REA a few weeks ago that has parts of 5 different backs showing (image from auction).


Great post, Mike

Thanks for sharing this with us.


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tedzan 11-20-2017 04:17 PM



Some great stuff here, Al

Thanks for posting it.



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tedzan 11-20-2017 04:17 PM

1949 BOWMAN (1st series sheet)
 
In some regions of the country the 1st series of BOWMAN cards in 1949 (circa..April-May) comprised of 36 subjects. In other regions, 72 subjects were available.
As a kid growing up in Hillside, NJ in our neighborhood all 72 were available.

On display here are cards #1 -3, 73, 5 - 36.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...kfordYostX.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...stekReeseX.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...nmusuial_1.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...BReesePSA4.jpg



BOWMAN printed 7 sheets (36-cards each) to produce this set of 240 cards. The first 6 sheets have been discovered. I don't know of anyone who has (or has seen)
the 7th sheet. If anyone on this forum has seen, or even has a 7th sheet (cards #217 - 240, plus 12 variations) please post it here.
Or email me at...... tedzan11@comcast.net


The major stars on the 2nd sheet (cards #37 - 72) in this series are Jackie and Yogi......

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...JRobbyPSA5.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...nYogiBerra.jpg



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tedzan 11-20-2017 06:16 PM

1949 BOWMAN (3rd series sheet)
 
The GRAY (or SLATE) cards on this 3rd series sheet are normally either GREEN or ORANGE. This color printing mistake on this particular sheet occurred
occasionally, as a considerable number of these 17 mis-colored subjects have been found over the years.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7....3bowman_1.jpg



HOFers featured on this sheet......

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...nCampyPSA4.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...izeRizzuto.jpg


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tedzan 11-21-2017 09:00 AM

1949 BOWMAN (4th series sheet)
 
The BOWMAN GUM company got us kids all excited in the Summer of 1949 when they issued these 36 cards with facsimile autographs on their backs.

In 1982, I traded a 1951 Bowman Mantle (Vg) rookie card for this sheet in a Sports Shop in Media, Pennsylvania.


4th series (cards # 109 -144)

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...seriesheet.jpg



..........................HOFer .........................................and, in my opinion a HOFer
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ienstSLATE.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ynoldsPSA6.jpg



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tedzan 11-21-2017 07:51 PM

Hi # series....7th sheet (simulation)
 
As noted earlier, to the best of my knowledge, the 7th sheet of the 1949 Bowman set has yet to be discovered. I've arranged these 36 cards based on my research.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ed7thsheet.jpg
.................................................. .................................................. ....................................^------------------^




There are 12 new Rookie cards introduced on this sheet. And, 4 of them are HOFers.
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eDobyLemon.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eSnider25x.jpg





Five retired players are included on this sheet. George McQuinn has a great story....in the twilight of his BB career of how he "sparked" the NY
Yankees into winning the AL Pennant in 1947. That June, he was the AL batting leader (.392). His defensive play at 1st base was outstanding.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...QuinnSGC88.jpg





HOFer's in the 12 re-printed variations
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...RizzutoNOF.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...zeNOFxPSA4.jpg




For more detailed information regarding this enigmatic BB card set, check-out the 1949 Bowman article in the Spring 1983 issue of BASEBALL CARDS magazine
authored by Ralph Triplette and Ted Zanidakis.


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tedzan 11-23-2017 10:21 AM

One more BOWMAN uncut sheet......
 
Hi #'s (#37 - 72) 1948 BOWMAN sheet (missing Blue and Red ink colors).



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...rorSheet50.jpg


George Mikan ................... Red Holzman
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...HxRPxYDxSH.jpg


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ullmandds 11-23-2017 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1723199)
Hi #'s (#37 - 72) 1948 BOWMAN sheet (missing Blue and Red ink colors).



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...rorSheet50.jpg


George Mikan ................... Red Holzman
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...HxRPxYDxSH.jpg


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that's a really cool one Ted!

glchen 11-24-2017 01:14 AM

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Here's my contribution.

tedzan 11-24-2017 03:05 PM

1950 Bowman Gum sheet
 
3rd Series uncut sheet (36 cards)

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...5thSheet6x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...hSheet6xxA.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...wrapper25x.jpg



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tedzan 11-25-2017 07:34 AM

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Double post.

ullmandds 11-25-2017 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glchen (Post 1723364)
Here's my contribution.

wow...i've never seen one of those!!!

tedzan 11-25-2017 05:47 PM

Gary

Great looking 1935 GOUDEY sheet. These are seldom seen.


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whiteymet 11-25-2017 06:06 PM

More Uncut
 
10 Attachment(s)
Some of my uncut sheets

Fred

tedzan 11-26-2017 03:30 PM

1948 BOWMAN GUM Football sheets
 
Sportscard collectors (young and older) had a tough time trying to complete the 1948 BOWMAN Football set. The 1st series of 36 cards were available early in the Fall of '48.
The top line on the backs of these cards read...."NO. x IN A SERIES OF 108". However, the cards were issued "skip-numbered". A clever marketing trick that we know was in
the 1933 GOUDEY set and the 1949 LEAF BB set. BOWMAN issued this set in 3 series....the 3rd series cards were short-printed. If you were persistent in completing this set,
you would have accomplished it by December 1948.

I was lucky to have all 3 uncut sheets of this set (diagramed here on the 2nd page of this SCD article). Therefore, I wrote this article.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...nfbart1984.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...anfb1984p2.jpg



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Griffins 11-26-2017 06:15 PM

'55 Doubleheader panel
https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi...Hsheet.tif.jpg

'57 Topps
https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi...7Sheet.tif.jpg

'61 Fleer
https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi...rFront.tif.jpg

'64 Topps panel
https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi...Topps1.tif.jpg

'63 Fleer strip- the only uncut '63 Fleer I've come across. Would love to find a full sheet
https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi...rPanel.tif.jpg

'67 Topps sheet
https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi...ps%20Sheet.jpg

tedzan 11-27-2017 04:02 PM

Fred and Anthony....thanks for posting all these sheets (and Panels). Really great stuff.


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tedzan 11-27-2017 07:00 PM

1952 BOWMAN FB (large cards) uncut sheet
 
Saved the best for last.....of all my BOWMAN sheets. It is my favorite sheet. The artwork & color is some of the best you will find in any post-WWII sportscards sets.

I acquired this sheet in 1982 at the Sports/Hobby shop in Media, Pennsylvania. This sheet represents the 1st series of the LARGE version (printed Fall-Winter of '52).
These 32 cards reflect BOWMAN's first attempt to compete with the very popular 1952 TOPPS BB cards. BOWMAN reprinted their smaller 1952 FB cards, which were
originally issued in early Fall of '52. With this larger version, Bowman increased the card size to 2 1/2 " x 3 3/4 ".
Football HOFer's featured on this sheet are.....Sammy Baugh, Paul Brown, Otto Graham, Charlie Justice, Y. A. Tittle, Charley Trippi, and Frank Gifford (rookie).

Since 1982, I have searched for another one of these sheets, to no avail. I guess, we can say this is a very unique piece of sportscard memorabilia.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...etLarge19x.jpg

<.................................................. .................................................. ..... 20 inches .................................................. ..................................................>


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...perLarge25.jpg



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seattlebaseball 11-27-2017 10:50 PM

Seattle popcorn card uncut sheets
 
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Here are two Seattle popcorn card uncut sheets, 1957 with autographs, and 1965 which shows the four cards that were issued with blank backs.

Rich Klein 11-28-2017 08:37 AM

I'd be curious if there is a 2nd 67 sheet from that series. If so, all the cards are printed equally. If not -- we have 44 DP's and 44 regular prints. Or 44 SP's and 44 regular prints depending on how you look at your glass (Half full or Half empty)

Griffins 11-28-2017 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Klein (Post 1721840)
'64 Topps Giants, debunking the myth of short prints that was already pretty obvious to anyone that collected this set from vending packs
https://photos.imageevent.com/griffi...pps_giants.jpg

I just want to point out that the 7 "Short Prints" are all in a row on the left side of this sheet and I wonder, as with many other Topps issues of that time is there a 2nd sheet which would confirm the long-held suspicions of those 7 short prints.

I will also state as a collector/dealer who worked on those sets, those 7 cards tended to show up on most want lists and were far easier to sell.

Also -- I know someone in the DFW area who accumulated a couple hundred (I did not count) of the Mantle and I would certainly call Mantle a Double or even a Triple Print

Rich[/QUOTE]

Rich-
I've seen 3 of these sheets in 20+ years of looking, and own/owned 2 of them. They were all exactly the same.
In the '70's Dodger Stadium used to sell envelopes of '64 Giants, 25 cards for a buck. We bought TONS of them, as it was the easiest way to get cards of players that had retired before my friends and I started collecting. Koufax was almost as plentiful as Mantle (and way more popular in LA) and there were tons of Stuart, Cisco, Mays, Causey, etc. When we started trading thru the mail about '73 my friends and I put together and sold complete sets, and it didn't appear any card was tougher than others. At the monthly card meeting in Garden Grove one guy always had a table stack high with them, I assume he had access to vending cases. So based on all of this and the sheets I don't believe there were short prints on that set.

FWIW when I was putting together a high grade set about 10 years ago Johnny Romano was the card that eluded me for months in PSA 9.

tedzan 11-28-2017 12:37 PM

M. P. & Co.strip cards (uncut)
 
The Michael Pressner & Co. issued this 24-card set in 1943. Three 8-card strips comprise a set which were sold in Candy stores
and 5 & 10-cent Department stores........



v................................................. .... original uncut 8-card strip (21 1/2 inches long) .................................................. ....v

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ReeseMPx7x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ggioMPx7xx.jpg



Enlarged strip (split scan)

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eeseMPx50x.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...aggioMPx50.jpg



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