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CMIZ5290 04-20-2017 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1652645)
Who reported that? A prison official? Has anyone seen proof of what was jammed up against the door, or that only Hernandez could have done it? If that has been released I haven't seen it. Until then I will have my doubts. If nothing else the timing alone is suspicious.
My God, can we please move off of Hernandez? He was a piece of garbage, period....Also, the timing of his suicide could be in accordance with his former team going to the White House on the same day..Depression maybe?

jb217676 04-20-2017 05:15 PM
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I just saw this card. Polar opposites I guess.

CMIZ5290 04-20-2017 05:34 PM
This is just too much....If you made a movie about it nobody would believe it. ESPN in the last two days has consumed their programming with this animal. Please people forget the fact that he was a great NFL tight end, he was an absolute thug that had tons of money, but still wanted to be a thug...I feel bad for his 4 yr. old daughter, but screw him big time...

Peter_Spaeth 04-20-2017 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1652645)
Who reported that? A prison official? Has anyone seen proof of what was jammed up against the door, or that only Hernandez could have done it? If that has been released I haven't seen it. Until then I will have my doubts. If nothing else the timing alone is suspicious.
Guess the medical examiner/DA's office who ruled it a suicide are in on the plot, and the three suicide notes they found are fake too.

nolemmings 04-20-2017 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1652542)
Irrespective of his suicide, I'm not sure Hernandez had much left in the way of assets. Those legal bills add up fast.
Maybe, but it seems the abatement ab initio finding is something the Plaintiff's lawyers believe may require the Patriots to make a multi-million dollar payment, previously withheld, to Hernandez' estate. https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20..._Pos1#comments

Ironically, it is possible the suicide may bring the parties together on a settlement. Plaintiff may be less interested in vengeance with Hernandez dead and might, just might, have a degree of sympathy for allowing some money to remain with his little daughter, especially if one alternative is to watch the pot shrink as litigation drags on to the primary benefit of the estate's defense lawyers. Time will tell.

CMIZ5290 04-20-2017 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1652676)
Guess the medical examiner/DA's office who ruled it a suicide are in on the plot, and the three suicide notes they found are fake too.
+1 big time, this is just too much......Move on people!

Peter_Spaeth 04-20-2017 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nolemmings (Post 1652682)
Maybe, but it seems the abatement ab initio finding is something the Plaintiff's lawyers believe may require the Patriots to make a multi-million dollar payment, previously withheld, to Hernandez' estate. https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20..._Pos1#comments

Ironically, it is possible the suicide may bring the parties together on a settlement. Plaintiff may be less interested in vengeance with Hernandez dead and might, just might, have a degree of sympathy for allowing some money to remain with his little daughter, especially if one alternative is to watch the pot shrink as litigation drags on to the primary benefit of the estate's defense lawyers. Time will tell.
Isn't that the point of litigation?

nolemmings 04-20-2017 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1652700)
Isn't that the point of litigation?
What, to hope one of the litigants kills himself?

pokerplyr80 04-20-2017 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1652676)
Guess the medical examiner/DA's office who ruled it a suicide are in on the plot, and the three suicide notes they found are fake too.
It was initially reported that there was no suicide note. Now they found not only 1, but 3. If I see a hand writing analyst's report that he did write the letters I will believe it. For now I have my doubts.

If he knew this was the only way to pass his estate to his daughter, because his first conviction would be vacated, then the timing and suicide make sense.

Peter_Spaeth 04-20-2017 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1652740)
It was initially reported that there was no suicide note. Now they found not only 1, but 3. If I see a hand writing analyst's report that he did write the letters I will believe it. For now I have my doubts.

If he knew this was the only way to pass his estate to his daughter, because his first conviction would be vacated, then the timing and suicide make sense.
It's a conspiracy!! And the DA is part of the cover up.

clydepepper 04-20-2017 08:31 PM
In spite of everything, isn't it just wonderful to get to hear from Jose Baez again?

I almost throw up every time I see his Cheshire Cat smile.

He gives lawyers a bad name!


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Stampsfan 04-21-2017 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by conor912 (Post 1652465)
And yes, killing 1 person IS way better than killing 3, 4 or 5.
Not necessarily way better, but maybe just less bad.

PhillipAbbott79 04-21-2017 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Stampsfan (Post 1652787)
Not necessarily way better, but maybe just less bad.
It depends on if we are talking about population control or not. Who writes 3 notes? I have never heard of anyone doing this before.

Leon 04-21-2017 07:11 AM
Get over it. He killed himself.
You ask who writes three suicide notes? How about someone who is crazy and about to commit suicide? Actually, when we think about someone killing themselves does anything else really matter or sound more crazy?

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Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79 (Post 1652818)
It depends on if we are talking about population control or not. Who writes 3 notes? I have never heard of anyone doing this before.

RichardSimon 04-21-2017 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1652740)
It was initially reported that there was no suicide note. Now they found not only 1, but 3. If I see a hand writing analyst's report that he did write the letters I will believe it. For now I have my doubts.

If he knew this was the only way to pass his estate to his daughter, because his first conviction would be vacated, then the timing and suicide make sense.
I know some handwriting analyst's who will say anything about anyone's handwriting. We have discussed all their attributes :confused: on Net54.

packs 04-21-2017 08:07 AM
From what I've read the notes weren't suicide notes. They were just things he wrote. He is also said to have smoked K2 before killing himself. If you've ever seen any videos of people after they've smoked K2 it's not hard to believe that they wrote something insane before they died. The bible verse on the forehead should be a good tip off to his mental state at the time.

Shoeless Moe 04-21-2017 09:09 AM
Hernandez's older brother, Jonathan "DJ'' Hernandez, meanwhile, took to Facebook on Thursday to wish his mother, Terri Hernandez, happy birthday. "I know if Aaron was here one more day he would have said he loves you,'' he wrote. "Keep smiling because I know Aaron and Dad are both smiling down on you [and] us right now.''

His brother got it wrong not smiling "down," should have said looking "up."

PhillipAbbott79 04-21-2017 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1652819)
Get over it. He killed himself.
You ask who writes three suicide notes? How about someone who is crazy and about to commit suicide? Actually, when we think about someone killing themselves does anything else really matter or sound more crazy?
I don't even follow football, at all. I watch it for the commercials. I guess you didn't pick up on my subtle humor.

But yes, I would say most people don't sit down and do revisions on their suicide note. I would find it odd, no matter how crazy the person is. I can't recall ever hearing about a suicide where there was revisions of someone's last words.

packs 04-21-2017 10:05 AM
They were NOT suicide notes. They were notes to his family. They were separate notes, not revisions.

Cliff Bowman 04-21-2017 11:42 AM
Whatever was written on the three notes, reportedly one was for his fiancée, one for his daughter, and one for a fellow inmate that, shall we say, he had become very close to.

ramram 04-21-2017 12:51 PM
So now, because of the screwed up Massachusett's laws, the Patriots may have to pay out the rest of the scumbags salary. Not only that but Odin Lloyd's family is also looking for a handout from the Patriots lest they may file a wrongful death suit against them. What's wrong here besides everything?

Rob M

clydepepper 04-21-2017 01:21 PM
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conor912 04-21-2017 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ramram (Post 1652928)
So now, because of the screwed up Massachusett's laws, the Patriots may have to pay out the rest of the scumbags salary. Not only that but Odin Lloyd's family is also looking for a handout from the Patriots lest they may file a wrongful death suit against them. What's wrong here besides everything?

Rob M
I'll be sure and shed a tear tonight for the Patriots.

Enfuego 04-21-2017 09:00 PM
I'm a firm believer of being against suicide, but I guess he looked at it as a permanent solution to a permanent problem


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Peter_Spaeth 04-21-2017 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ramram (Post 1652928)
So now, because of the screwed up Massachusett's laws, the Patriots may have to pay out the rest of the scumbags salary. Not only that but Odin Lloyd's family is also looking for a handout from the Patriots lest they may file a wrongful death suit against them. What's wrong here besides everything?

Rob M
I doubt that the patriots owe his estate money based on what i have read.

Exhibitman 04-22-2017 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1652427)
Was reading today about how Lloyd's family won't be able to pursue civil judgments against his estate because he's technically innocent in the eyes of the law. This country's legal system really is something else. I remember the case of the Norfolk Four, four guys who were convicted of a crime they didn't commit and were later pardoned for. For years after one of the men got out he was forced to register as a sex offender even though another man had confessed to the crime the court convicted him of. The system's excuse was that because he had served a full sentence he wasn't eligible for exoneration. It took a full pardon from the state before he was allowed to stop registering as a sex offender for a crime another man confessed to.
No, that is fake news. They can sue civilly; they cannot rely on a guilty verdict to automatically establish civil liability. OJ got nailed in a civil case after he was acquitted.

As for the suicide, good riddance to bad rubbish. I hope every murderer kills himself shortly after being convicted. Saves the taxpayers a lifetime of expense.

Peter_Spaeth 04-22-2017 12:56 PM
The latest conspiracy theory.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/0...up-secret.html

ullmandds 04-22-2017 02:40 PM
Boy does the plot thicken...BISEXUAL huh?!

conor912 04-22-2017 03:24 PM
This thing has turned into a made for TV movie.

mighty bombjack 04-22-2017 10:36 PM
I see many people questioning the timing, but there is a lot about the timing that makes a good deal of sense. Realize that Hernandez was staying in a holding cell for his trial, and once the trial ended, it was back to prison. With that trial over, there was nothing else to look forward to but slow aging in general prison population.

In combination with the aforementioned possibilities of legal loopholes and their consequences, nothing about the timing seems suspicious to me at all. But people do love conspiracy theories.

Shoeless Moe 04-28-2017 02:40 PM
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