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joshuanip 05-11-2018 08:55 PM

Odd PSA grades cards
 
Odd that this is a VG but shows up as a PSA 4. I checked the registry and it shows VG-EX. Really odd and how does PSA screw up like this?

https://m.ebay.com/itm/1915-CRACKER-...cAAOSwPOhafjJ~

Only reason why I ask is that I saw another card, a Johnson cookies that was missing the I in mint

https://m.ebay.com/itm/1954-Hank-Aar...YAAOSwA1pauuOY

hcv123 05-11-2018 10:00 PM

Something doesn't look right about the label on that Plank
 
Far from an expert - I'm sure others will chime in, but that label looks fake to me. Anyone else?

Something also seems off on the Aaron - in addition to the missing "i", the barcode is "broken". I'd stay FAR AWAY!

joshuanip 05-11-2018 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 1775910)
Far from an expert - I'm sure others will chime in, but that label looks fake to me. Anyone else?

Something also seems off on the Aaron - in addition to the missing "i", the barcode is "broken". I'd stay FAR AWAY!

I didn’t doubt the cards. Especially the Aaron, I’ve dealt with him recently and he’s totally legit with some awesome cards. But thought it was a psa error.

I was told by a very knowledgable hobbyist that the plank was based on the old psa system and there wasn’t a vgex. And the Aaron was scanned using a dust removal option which affected the letter.

pgconboy 05-11-2018 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 1775910)
Far from an expert - I'm sure others will chime in, but that label looks fake to me. Anyone else?

Something also seems off on the Aaron - in addition to the missing "i", the barcode is "broken". I'd stay FAR AWAY!

In addition, the Plank the PSA text appears to be using a different text font compared to what they are currently using.

Edit - Found an old post that shows that style of font.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=184419
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ncinin 05-11-2018 11:22 PM

Flip
 
As far as the Cracker Jack Plank is concerned, I think this is an example of an early PSA graded card.

At first PSA did not have number grades on the flip. A VG card labeled as VG with no numeric grade printed. I have a program from the 1992 National in Atlanta where PSA has an ad with examples of cards labeled without numeric grade.

I think this card is from the era when they first printed a numeric grade with the printed grade and there may limitations of number of characters or just general problems that were eventually fixed.

ncinin 05-11-2018 11:26 PM

PSA ad from 1992 National
 
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Ad from 1992

swarmee 05-12-2018 05:10 AM

The top of the holder looks frosted. My guess is the flip is replaced and it was originally a 1.5 or something.
If that's not the case, I've never seen a PSA card graded VG 4 before. Maybe they did it in the early years, but the only times I know of where they changed their scale was to add the half grades and change PR-FR 1 to break out Poor 1 and Fair 1.5.

Peter_Spaeth 05-12-2018 11:44 AM

Very early on PSA had a different system at the lower end. VG was 4. It was poor fair good very good. It's fine.


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