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vintagesportscollector 04-01-2017 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner (Post 1646640)
As many of you know, I am an advanced collector of no-hitter related items.
I[B] recently picked up an oddball item related to 1965 Red Sox no-hit pitcher Dave Morehead- an original 1961 Commencement Exercises (Graduation) program from San Diego Herbert Hoover High School. :D

Great addition Scott!!

JoeyFarino 04-02-2017 02:33 AM

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slidekellyslide 04-02-2017 08:26 AM

Great Lou and Babe photo!!

perezfan 04-02-2017 02:45 PM

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Here's an uber-rare Football Statue I was fortunate to pick up recently. Truly spectacular in its detail, it is an original 1800s figural version of College Football's Walter Camp Award. The Walter Camp Award is second only to the Heisman, in terms of its lofty status...

http://www.picksixpreviews.com/walter-camp-award.html

Amazingly, this intricate 3 Man Statue portion is still in use today (see photo of Ricky Williams holding his Walter Camp Award). This is a completely finished piece, and the earliest known version of the prestigious sculpture. See pics below, with the latter versions being about 125 years older than Williams' Trophy!

ruth-gehrig 04-02-2017 02:57 PM

Wow Mark Wow!! Congrats

vintagesportscollector 04-02-2017 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1646941)
Here's an uber-rare Football Statue I was fortunate to pick up recently. Truly spectacular in its detail, it is an original 1800s figural version of College Football's Walter Camp Award. The Walter Camp Award is second only to the Heisman, in terms of its lofty status...

http://www.picksixpreviews.com/walter-camp-award.html

Amazingly, this intricate 3 Man Statue portion is still in use today (see photo of Ricky Williams holding his Walter Camp Award). This is a completely finished piece, and the earliest known version of the prestigious sculpture. See pics below, with the latter versions being about 125 years older than Williams' Trophy!

Spectacular Mark, congrats! What's the history behind the statue? Sculptor? How do you date it to c.1875? Amazing pick up!!

perezfan 04-02-2017 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector (Post 1646949)
Spectacular Mark, congrats! What's the history behind the statue? Sculptor? How do you date it to c.1875? Amazing pick up!!

Well, I was sorta "guesstimating" on the 125 years, and thought the Ricky Williams Photo may have been a few years more recent. But it came from Massachusetts, and was found with some other 1880s Yale paraphernalia.

As for Walter Camp himself... In 1873, he attended a meeting where representatives from Columbia, Rutgers, Princeton, and Yale universities created the intercollegiate football association (IFA). So given the evidence and accompanying items, the timing is likely somewhere in that 1870 - 1880 range... or thereabouts. If anyone has further evidence or insight (especially regarding the Sculptor), please share!

A final note... the materials, construction, and style of Base are all virtually identical to the Muller Baseball Statues of 1868. Same elongated oval base with textured surface. So I'm confident there's well over a century of age to it.

Thanks!

mjkm90 04-02-2017 05:41 PM

Fantastic find Mark! Congrats😃👍🙌

vintagesportscollector 04-02-2017 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1647007)
Well, I was sorta "guesstimating" on the 125 years, and thought the Ricky Williams Photo may have been a few years more recent. But it came from Massachusetts, and was found with some other 1880s Yale paraphernalia.

As for Walter Camp himself... In 1873, he attended a meeting where representatives from Columbia, Rutgers, Princeton, and Yale universities created the intercollegiate football association (IFA). So given the evidence and accompanying items, the timing is likely somewhere in that 1870 - 1880 range... or thereabouts. If anyone has further evidence or insight (especially regarding the Sculptor), please share!

A final note... the materials, construction, and style of Base are all virtually identical to the Muller Baseball Statues of 1868. Same elongated oval base with textured surface. So I'm confident there's well over a century of age to it.

Thanks!

Love the piece, it's remarkable, but just so you know, wikipedia is wrong - in 1873 Walter Camp was 14 years old and did not attend the IFA meeting, he didn't enter Yale until 1876. Given the infancy of football at that time, the timing of the sculpture most likely not 1870s. Illustrators and sculptors, such as Frederic Remington and R.T. McKenize, started to be influenced by Camp's Yale Team's in the late 1880s and early 1890s. If Walter Camp influenced the original sculptor, logic would suggest the timing is more late 1880s to 1890s - regardless well over a century old.

ksfarmboy 04-02-2017 08:59 PM

Outstanding pickups to everyone. Each is its own treasure.


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