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Greenmonster 11-29-2017 03:16 PM

Cobb Postcard
 
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This one is new to me, anyone hve any information? Thanks. Jim

Kawika 11-29-2017 03:35 PM

Hello, T227 Cobb.
Very nice.

bigfish 11-29-2017 03:45 PM

T227
 
It’s awesome. David nailed it regarding the pose. Never seen it before. Congrats!

jerrys 11-29-2017 04:58 PM

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Tao_Moko 11-29-2017 05:03 PM

Really cool to have the reference. The T227 image of Cobb is actually a pretty poor representation of the actual image.

Jobu 11-29-2017 05:12 PM

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That image is also on one of his T5s (not my card).

h2oya311 11-29-2017 05:26 PM

Yummy! ��

Looks oversized. I’m no help here, but wanted to express my admiration and appetite for deliciousness. If legit, that postcard is awesome! Mmm!

BeanTown 11-29-2017 05:42 PM

Cobb-O-Licious

Bicem 11-29-2017 05:45 PM

Did you black light it Jim? How does it look/feel/smell in person?

Famous Conlon image raises a red flag to me.

jb217676 11-29-2017 05:50 PM

What is the exact size of the postcard?

ullmandds 11-29-2017 05:50 PM

Awesome!!!!

T206Jim 11-29-2017 05:59 PM

The "This Side for Address" would seem to indicate the postcard stock was from early 1907 or earlier.

Bicem 11-29-2017 06:01 PM

With a 1910 image.

Jobu 11-29-2017 06:30 PM

I am new to PCs, but was curious about a back that looks to me like it ought to have an RPPC front but instead seems to have a lithograph like an Exhibit.

Bicem 11-29-2017 06:47 PM

The back would suggest a litho card and not a real-photo one.

Have many other concerns about it though.

gnaz01 11-29-2017 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 1724969)

Have many other concerns about it though.

Me too. Not to mention it looks 100% even rounding on all 4 corners.....

Jobu 11-29-2017 07:00 PM

Thanks for correcting me Jeff. Can you tell me why it suggests a litho to you?

Bicem 11-29-2017 07:27 PM

Just from the known rppc backs/stamp boxes.

Greenmonster 11-29-2017 10:18 PM

Thanks for the input. The images posted were sent to me by a collector asking if I was familiar with the card and value.

Without having the card I can't respond to the the questions raised. However Jeff's observation that the image is 1910 is interesting especially when put together with the postcard's undivided back which should date no later than 1907. (Is this true of Exhibit Card Postcards too?)

Several years ago I came across a number of B&W postcards featuring high demand subjects, Indian Motorcycles, Carnivals, Baseball Subjects...I bought a Jim Thorpe hunting postcard....when received I realized that the front was a copy of a Thorpe photo adhered to a postcard. There were a couple give a ways, the front photo was very grainy, the backs were not consistent with the supposed age of the image/postcard and the postcard felt thicker than an original postcard. May be this is similar, without the card I can't be sure.

I'll send a link for this post to the collector for his review and response.

Thank you. Jim

prewarsports 11-29-2017 11:48 PM

Looks like a Frankenstein piece, front from a newspaper or magazine glued to a postcard back to try and make something worth $20,000. Just a hunch, I could be wrong but I doubt it. BTW I think that is a Van Oeyen image.

Bicem 11-30-2017 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by prewarsports (Post 1725043)
Looks like a Frankenstein piece, front from a newspaper or magazine glued to a postcard back to try and make something worth $20,000. Just a hunch, I could be wrong but I doubt it. BTW I think that is a Van Oeyen image.

Think it's Conlon, taken moments before this photo...

Cobb

T206Jim 11-30-2017 05:01 AM

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Conlon 1910, from Baseball's Golden Era The Photography of Charles M. Conlon.

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Jobu 11-30-2017 06:06 AM

Before you send the link, are you fairly confident that the person who contacted you isn't the one who made it? I never want to help people make something more convincing.

T206Jim 11-30-2017 06:07 AM

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Here is a Conlon Collection 1984 postcard from eBay. I'm betting our specimen here is a closer relation than it would care to admit.

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ullmandds 11-30-2017 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by T206Jim (Post 1725060)
Here is a Conlon Collection 1984 postcard from eBay. I'm betting our specimen here is a closer relation than it would care to admit.

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you are likely correct...nice sleuthing.

wondo 11-30-2017 07:03 AM

Wow! You guys are good!

packs 11-30-2017 07:19 AM

The image is so grainy. It looks second hand to me.

Greenmonster 11-30-2017 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by T206Jim (Post 1725060)
Here is a Conlon Collection 1984 postcard from eBay. I'm betting our specimen here is a closer relation than it would care to admit.

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Yup....good find Jim.

Greenmonster 11-30-2017 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jobu (Post 1725059)
Before you send the link, are you fairly confident that the person who contacted you isn't the one who made it? I never want to help people make something more convincing.

I'll get back to him that the postcard appears to be a copied image from the Conlon Collection postcard set adhered to an old postcard. I'll also send him the image of the Conlon postcard.

He may have had this card offered to him for purchase and contacted me for a opinion before going forward and buying. I don't know, I'll ask.

All - Thanks for all the help....nice job.

Yoda 11-30-2017 09:14 AM

I almost hate to mention it, but I got fooled and stuck with a Wolverine News PC counterfeit Cobb over a year ago; it also fooled a number of PC experts. When Scott at SGC determined it was bogus, he said something about the pixels being wrong, something I never would have picked up. Point is there are many high quality counterfeits out there and as printing technologies continue to advance they will become harder to spot.

prewarsports 11-30-2017 09:56 AM

My bad, I was thinking of this guy that I still kick myself for not buying on ebay which is probably why it was on my brain.

http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/l...jectID=6021623

Still think the postcard is bogus though.

Exhibitman 11-30-2017 10:03 AM

If I kicked myself over everything I should've bought I'd run out of ass and wear through all my shoes.

irv 11-30-2017 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1725130)
If I kicked myself over everything I should've bought I'd run out of ass and wear through all my shoes.

LOL. That's good, and so true! :D

slidekellyslide 12-01-2017 07:23 AM

It's not coming from Ohio is it? I recently purchased a Cushman Motor Scooter Oil advertising postcard on ebay and when I got it I could tell right away it was a frankenstein card. I emailed the seller and told him and he didn't even reply back he just refunded me. I looked at his other stuff and sure enough this guy is creating all kinds of fakes. I tried to email him back, but he blocked me.

calvindog 12-01-2017 02:41 PM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Baseball-po...kAAOSwLVZV3Mbo

Leon 12-04-2017 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1725560)

Yikes, looks like it. This wasn't a great fake but I know they are getting better, for sure. Be especially careful on ungraded rare back T206s and Type 1 Coupons, especially coming out of CA.


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