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Isn't it obvious??? THEY are in on the scam, that's the only logical conclusion PERIOD |
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Still looking to hear from someone who was made right by PSA. Perhaps the FBI should be pressuring them equally (if they aren't already...) If PSA is let off the hook for their thousands of "mistakes" then it's a huge black eye for the hobby. |
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Well, they can try. More likely they'd get a breach of contract countersuit?
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I wonder if during the PWCC office Christmas party 'Secret Santa,' the most common $20 or less gift is a new pair of scissors??
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Didn't the guy here with the altered T3 get a reimbursement directly from PSA?
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also why bring up suing, they can submit a claim. Doesnt have to be a lawsuits..why so quick to bring up lawsuit. Some people pay based on a letter |
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I think PSA should pay the price for their inabilities to do their job, but forgers and liars should also pay a price. |
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so PWCC can refund and then collect from PSA....so buck can still end with PSA .. (net54 members has asked why would pwcc refund when it should be psa, so this gives one explanation on some of the cards at least) |
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Peters point above is what I was referencing in my original post about this subject. Please do not take that I am in favor of any company or person that alters cards- I am not. Regardless of who is submitting these cards, as the industry leader they need to detect the alterations. Relying on the submitter to sign the submission form stating they haven’t altered the cards is simply an easy way out for them to pass the buck. The reason I submit cards and my money to them is to make sure they haven’t been altered. I’m an honest guy but I hope PSA doesn’t take only my word when I submit that the cards in the grading order aren’t altered. Looking over at BODA, it seems that they rely on that disclaimer and trust of the submitter to often.
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It’s all a bunch of garbage finger pointing/cover up’s Card Doctor, Shady Auction Houses, and PSA’s Inabilities/lack of responsibilities are gonna tank the card industry. Greed :-(....sad |
A bad actor or three won't tank this industry/hobby.
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Even 50 don't seem to be tanking it. It's the Teflon Hobby.
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After bnorth and myself that leaves 48 remaining honest people in the hobby |
It's like the ancient Greek Diogenes, searching for an honest man.
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i really havent seen anyone posting about getting a refund or resolving a dispute on this thread for awhile
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A couple months ago I received an unsolicited email from PWCC that they suspected a 1969 PSA 9 Clemente I had won the year prior might be altered. I sent it to them and a week later i received a check for the full auction price. Nothing to sign etc. Brief communication and refund.
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Let's hold off on congratulating the crooks for covering their asses...
Likely on the advice of counsel. |
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My only hope is some great lawyering throws this back onto PSA and or the other TPG’s Excited for your auction tonight, I’ll be bidding/watching. |
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Burn Baby Burn !
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Fraudulently holdered cards.
They are still worth money just not in the holders they are in. And at a fraction of the price.
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Brent is going to have a special FBI auction touting the new great investments. 2018 was $60K, now $7K!
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Lots better than the head-in-the-sand experts, PSA, who does nothing proactively (or reactively, for that matter). |
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It gives you that great warm fuzzy feeling, just in time for the holidays. Reading it was a true "Hallmark Moment" for me. :rolleyes: |
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Worst email since Joe O sent his. Appallingly disingenuous . |
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