American Greed John Rogers Episode
The American Greed Episode on John Rogers airs tomorrow:
https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...merican-greed/ I know in a half hour it can only scratch the surface, but I’m looking forward to watching. John Rogers made few appearances on Net54 but I think this was possibly my favorite Net54 thread of all time due to the banter between Rogers and Jeffrey Lichtman (link below): http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=114597 Within the thread, Post #30 may be my favorite single post of all time! http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...4&postcount=30 |
Lol!
Even with no skin in the hobby at all during that time I remember that post well. Thanks for finding it, glad the pic is still there.
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Can someone shorthand the situation regarding John Rogers (and the old thread referenced here) for us not in the know?
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Cliff's Notes version:
Spent many years (decades?) forging and doctoring sports memorabilia and passing it off as the real thing. Then kept doing it when people got wise to the scheme. Then kept doing it even after a guilty plea. Currently serving 12 year prison sentence last I heard. |
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Very interesting read!!
Although I have been back collecting almost 3 yrs now, it still amazes me when I read about the ugliness in this hobby that I naively didn't think existed. :o |
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I believe there was also an issue with him making huge purchases of legitimate photo archive collections and then not holding up his part of the deal in relation to the rights and financial obligations of those purchases. Not having seen the show yet, I'm not sure what exactly he got pinched on though. |
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Last year, Mastro. This year, Rogers. Nominations for next year's trifecta?
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A longer version....
Collector given 12 years in prison for selling phony sports memorabilia John Rogers Arkansas collector John Rogers leaves the Dirksen U.S. Courthouse after pleading guilty in a $23 million sports memorabilia fraud scheme, Monday, March 6, 2017. Rogers was sentenced to 12 years in prison on Dec. 20, 2017. (Antonio Perez / Chicago Tribune) Jason MeisnerContact Reporter Chicago Tribune Long known as a consummate sweet-talker, Arkansas collector John Rogers tried one last time Wednesday to use his gift for gab. Facing sentencing in Chicago for a $23 million sports memorabilia fraud scheme, Rogers issued a rambling, 45-minute statement in a federal courtroom asking for leniency and talking about his downward spiral into drug addiction. He apologized tearfully to his teenage son, spoke eloquently about his failed marriage and promised to help return money to his victims. ADVERTISING inRead invented by Teads “I have no excuse for it — zero excuse,” Rogers told U.S. District Judge Thomas Durkin. “I don’t deserve a break, but I’m asking you for one.” But the judge didn’t buy it. Moments after Rogers wrapped up his remarks, Durkin sentenced him to 12 years in prison, calling the scope of his decadelong fraud scheme “breathtaking.” “You literally told thousands of lies to honest people to have them part with their money,” Durkin said. Rogers, 44, pleaded guilty in March to one count of wire fraud, admitting he bilked dozens of victims through various schemes involving sports memorabilia and photo collections. He had been free on bond pending sentencing, but Durkin ordered him jailed last month after prosecutors said he continued to sell phony sports memorabilia even after pleading guilty, including a bogus Mickey Mantle 1956 Triple Crown batting trophy and a doctored commemorative football from Super Bowl I. The new allegations also scuttled Rogers’ cooperation deal with prosecutors that could have cut his potential sentence in half. Rogers had spent more than a year wearing a wire for federal authorities in Arkansas in various drug and fraud investigations, leading to the resignation of one government official in Little Rock but no indictments, Assistant U.S. Attorney Derek Owens said. During the nearly three-hour sentencing hearing, Rogers’ son, John Rogers Jr., sobbed as he told the judge how his father’s crimes have made it difficult to go anywhere in Little Rock without being subjected to ridicule. But despite the embarrassment, he said his dad was “still my hero.” When it was Rogers’ turn to speak, he turned directly to his son in the courtroom gallery and said he was no hero. “I’m here to tell you, I want you to raise the bar,” Rogers said. According to Rogers’ plea agreement, he routinely altered sports memorabilia items to make them appear authentic and used proceeds from the fraud to repay customers who had figured out the items were fakes. In one instance, Rogers had a trophy company fix a nameplate to a Heisman replica to make it look like it was the authentic 1978 trophy awarded to University of Oklahoma running back Billy Sims, according to court records. Rogers also created a phony letter, purportedly from Sims, confirming the authenticity of the trophy and sent an email to the investor stating the trophy was valued at up to $225,000, the agreement said. In 2014, the Tribune detailed in a front-page story how Rogers was being sued in Arkansas over the purchase of the famed archive of Chicago photographer George Brace, who had amassed an astonishing collection of baseball portraits over six decades, capturing Hall of Famers such as Babe Ruth and Ernie Banks as well as little-known players who were in the majors for only a brief period. Rogers bought the Brace collection in 2012 for $1.35 million from the late photographer’s daughter, Mary. Their contract required Rogers to make a digital replica of each image for Brace’s personal use and gave her the right to take back the collection if Rogers defaulted on the deal. Court records show Mary Brace won a $780,000 judgment against Rogers in 2015 for defaulting on the contract, but with so many creditors in front of her, it’s unlikely she’ll ever be repaid. What was left of her dad’s collection, meanwhile, was seized when the FBI raided Rogers’ opulent North Little Rock home in 2013. The 27 boxes of negatives and photos were inventoried by a court-appointed receiver and sold last year at auction for $46,500, records show. The buyer, who owns a digital archiving company based in Lake Barrington, did not return calls Wednesday seeking comment. Mary Brace said in a victim-impact statement to the court that she’d counted on the money from the sale for her retirement and was now in shaky financial condition. But what upset her most was what Rogers did to “my dad’s legacy,” she said in the letter, a portion of which was read aloud by the judge during the sentencing. “My dad devoted his entire life to this collection, and Rogers told me he was going to honor it,” Brace wrote. jmeisner@chicagotribune.com |
Would the listing showing as a 10 pm start be the show?
It doesn't mention any names nor say it is a sport/memorabilia episode? :confused: "American Greed: Scams, Scoundrels and Scandals Scams on Film/ God and Gold New A man criminally builds one of the most impressive photo archives in the world and another man tricks his clients by selling them fool’s gold" 10:00 PM on CNBC Canada The others before and after it are pretty clear so I assume this is the one? Funny description? :confused: https://www.tvpassport.com/series/am...candals/126030 |
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Ouch....
Shoutout to the previous poster...... Walter Johnson's Grandson Hank Thomas! Hi Hank! Last time I saw you was in Burlington VT at Tom Simon's house! Great memories of your incredible stories and your historical perspective.
Ok......the real reason I am posting here........I was duped by John Rogers and never recouped a penny. He got me on a fake Lou Gehrig/Ruth barnstorming baseball. Even agreed to refund so I sent it back..........UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Never really heard an honest answer from him after that except lies and excuses. I am recording the episode. Will likely cringe while watching it! Ouch! Peace, Mike |
To answer your question....
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Yes, the 10pm EST episode is the one. It's also repeated at 1am so set your DVR if you go to bed early. The info on my TV mentions his name. |
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The balls on this guy. No pun intended.
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I watched the episode last night and thought they did a good job. My question after watching was: how many of the "many thousands" of forged autographs are still floating around and how many of them were so good they passed authentication?
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Yikes! He did like 1000 Muhammad Ali's in one sitting.
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Ill never forget the time he called me in September 2013 on the phone to tell me he would stop at nothing to destroy the photo auction I was starting that he saw as a threat to his business model (wont go into too many other details) and he tried, including launching a press release bashing me the week our first auction ended etc. I haven't given it much thought in five years but what is interesting now after watching the episode last night is that he was already being investigated by the FBI when he made the phone call and he knew it! Crazy stuff.
The worst part besides the obvious fraud and deceit is that he has driven some REALLY great collectors out of the hobby for good. |
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A big question I have is why didn't the FBI return the "stolen" Brace collection to the family rather than selling it?
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All the best, Hank |
Rogers is as big a degenerate as Bill Mastro which says a lot. And yet another example of hobbyists defending and holding up a scumbag on a pedestal solely because of the size of his alleged collection or bank account.
And Rogers would have ratted on anyone including his mother to avoid jail, he just couldn't stop committing fraud and lying. The idea that he "can't be defeated" is laughable as well. He was easily caught, turned and convicted; the only roadblock was the amount of fraud he had committed was so great that it took some time to track down most of it. Kudos to SA Brusokas for again busting his ass for a hobby that doesn't deserve him. |
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Frankly, American Greed could have easily made a whole episode out of Rogers.
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~$22 million is a huge sum for sports memorabilia. Sounds to me like Mr. Rogers made some dealers a lot of money over the years. He couldn't have done it alone.
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I asked Jeff if he'd hop back in instead of us all trying to interpret his meaning.
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Hank, no need to rethink anything, you are good for the hobby and we need more people that are in it for the love of the hobby. There have always been shady people and there probably always will be, I was pointing out what I thought Jeff was referring to in his post. |
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Great memory! I sent you a PM, Mike |
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I am sure he has read/seen some who complain only to turn around and support them to some extent after they have been busted or outed. I have seen it for myself on here with members who deal/bid with questionable A/H's or suspect persons. In my opinion, those who support these types are not helping the hobby one bit, and in fact are doing further damage by condoning their behaviour. I am all for giving people second chances but if their behavior hasn't changed much or any from their previous, then that is where I draw the line no matter what they have for sale. |
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