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Pat R 10-04-2014 08:56 AM

Does your Tenney have a broken Y ?
 
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I checked 232 and found 12 with a broken Y all of these were different
examples but of the 220 that didn't have it I'm sure some of them are repeat
sales.

These are the examples I found

1 Sweet caporal 150 Factory 30
10 Piedmont 150's
1 Piedmont ?

ullmandds 10-04-2014 09:23 AM

Pardon my vision...but what y is broken?

Jacklitsch 10-04-2014 09:26 AM

Y on jersey.

auggiedoggy 10-04-2014 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1330247)
Pardon my vision...but what y is broken?

The "Y" on his shirt.

ullmandds 10-04-2014 09:28 AM

d'oat! thanks.

t206hound 10-04-2014 09:57 AM

interesting
 
Mine is currently consigned, and does have the broken Y (piedmont 150) back. never noticed it...

Jacklitsch 10-04-2014 11:32 AM

Broken Y

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g5...ded/Tenney.jpg

Pat R 10-04-2014 11:53 AM

Steve: Thanks for posting yours I will add it.
Erick: Is yours in the Sterling Auction? If it is I already counted it.
Odd there is only one Sweet Caporal so far.

Jobu 10-04-2014 01:38 PM

Pat, did you find other 150 series with a complete Y?

Pat R 10-04-2014 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jobu (Post 1330317)
Pat, did you find other 150 series with a complete Y?

Yes, a large percent were from the 150 series.

curtis-cards 10-04-2014 03:07 PM

Very observant. Do you think the "Y" was made full for aesthetics in a later release?

Pat R 10-04-2014 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by curtis-cards (Post 1330342)
Very observant. Do you think the "Y" was made full for aesthetics in a later release?

The "Broken" Y Tenney would have been in a specific spot on the sheet and
may never have been fixed but the rest of the Tenney's on the sheet would
have had the full Y.

steve B 10-05-2014 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 1330353)
The "Broken" Y Tenney would have been in a specific spot on the sheet and
may never have been fixed but the rest of the Tenney's on the sheet would
have had the full Y.

:D:D:D:D

Exactly. One spot would have had either a flawed transfer or the transfer didn't get laid down properly.

12/220 is an interesting split. Seeing it with the 220 split by series would be pretty interesting. Assuming even distribution between 150's and 350s that would make the broken Y about 1 in every 9 cards. A clue about how many of a particular card were on a sheet.

Great find and good work on the numbers :)

Steve B

PS- A tenney 350 with the broken y would most likely be a real prize.

iwantitiwinit 10-05-2014 08:19 AM

"A tenney 350 with the broken y would most likely be a real prize". Totally agree. Is it worth 20x the regular Tenney given the ratio of broken Y discovered v. the non broken Y. I think more.

Pat R 10-06-2014 07:50 AM

12/220 is an interesting split. Seeing it with the 220 split by series would be pretty interesting.

Steve B
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Here's the breakdown Steve: The most intriguing thing to me is the PD 150 and SC 150 discrepancy, almost seems like something might have been done during the SC 150 printing.


PD 150 85-10
PD 350 29-0
PD ? 10-1
SC 150 53-1
SC 350 24-0
SC ? 8-0
SOV 150 6-0
SOV 350 5-0
SOV ? 3-0
Hindu 3-0
Unknown back 6-0

steve B 10-07-2014 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat R (Post 1330868)
12/220 is an interesting split. Seeing it with the 220 split by series would be pretty interesting.

Steve B

Here's the breakdown Steve: The most intriguing thing to me is the PD 150 and SC 150 discrepancy, almost seems like something might have been done during the SC 150 printing.


PD 150 85-10
PD 350 29-0
PD ? 10-1
SC 150 53-1
SC 350 24-0
SC ? 8-0
SOV 150 6-0
SOV 350 5-0
SOV ? 3-0
Hindu 3-0
Unknown back 6-0[/QUOTE]

That's pretty interesting. What I've found with the one really tough card I've checked scans of is about 8 different identifiable types. Which matches nicely with the 85/10 split for P150. The sample size is a bit small but that's encouraging.

That there's only one SC150 when 8:1 would seem to say 6 or 7 is also interesting. I'd need more to feel really comfortable with it, but I think it points towards the sheets being different for different brands. Do you happen to know what factory the SC is? I'll go out on a limb and guess it's a factory25.

I'm thinking either the problem was fixed during printing the SCs, or maybe the single SC is from P150 leftovers used for some SC 150's.

Steve B

Pat R 10-07-2014 05:22 PM

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Steve, it's a factory 30

steve B 10-08-2014 07:02 AM

Ah well, not the first guess I've missed. Interesting that it's a 30.

I had some reasoning that made me think it might be a 25, which I'll have to rethink. I have a feeling that the SC broken y will remain a one only for a while.

Steve B

Pat R 01-19-2016 12:17 PM

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That there's only one SC150 when 8:1 would seem to say 6 or 7 is also interesting. I'd need more to feel really comfortable with it, but I think it points towards the sheets being different for different brands. Do you happen to know what factory the SC is? I'll go out on a limb and guess it's a factory25.


Steve B[/QUOTE]


I found a Sweet Caporal 150 Factory 25 with the damage to the Y.
This is the first re-occurring flaw on a a SC/25 and SC/30 in either
the 150 or 350 series that I can recall.

vintagebb2014 01-20-2016 05:31 AM

No Broken "Y"
 
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Mine is a Sweet Caporal, 150, Factory 30, District 24. No broken "Y". I find it fascinating how there are so many variations, regardless of how small, still being discovered after 105 - 107 years. That just adds to the appeal of the T206 set for me. Great discovery and thanks for sharing.


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