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EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 06-08-2017 09:00 PM

Old Baseball Metal Signs
 
Hey guys,

I came across these old signs on eBay.

The seller does not know if they are original, but I thought they looked cool as hell. We agreed on a price but I told him before I buy them I wanted some opinions as to their authenticity. I told him I would sleep on it, so here I am.

Are these fantasy pieces? Are these reproductions made to look old?

So he recently sold a Ted Williams Sign ( not sure if it's authentic ), however this is just to give you a backing of a previous sold item of his....

Here are 4 photos before I get to my signs.

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/6l5771ou.jpg

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/7b0d888b.jpg

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/bpy25k6n.jpg

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/6vm8y81n.jpg


He has many other NON sport signs up for sale as well.

here are the 2 I wanted.

The first sign is 28 X 10


https://sportscardalbum.com/c/stzs52e7.jpg

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/f1335t2y.jpg



The second sign is 48 X 14


https://sportscardalbum.com/c/7e6s2yae.jpg

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/37lmpx4u.jpg

ooo-ribay 06-08-2017 09:22 PM

They look pretty good to me because the two you are interested in are not of enough interest (I wouldn't think) to fake. That said, I know there area bunch of fake fenway/seals/somebody else signsout there.

Leon 06-08-2017 10:01 PM

That is kind of generic advertising isn't it? I agree they probably won't be valuable enough to fake. That said I think I have seen more random things that are fake than are good. Be careful. I would imagine you could better tell in person. Good luck

vintagesportscollector 06-08-2017 10:51 PM

Look at the seller's current, sold and completed sales. They have a lot of these types of signs for sale. They also have another of the baseball sign for sale.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Country-...kAAOSwCU1Yrj8j

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Private-Dete...MAAOSwcB5ZKxVG

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rusty-Crusty...wAAOSwUKxYjY6-

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metal-Chief-...gAAOSw8HBZLvG3

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 06-08-2017 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector (Post 1669237)
Look at the seller's current, sold and completed sales. They have a lot of these types of signs for sale. They also have another of the baseball sign for sale.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Country-...kAAOSwCU1Yrj8j

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Private-Dete...MAAOSwcB5ZKxVG

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rusty-Crusty...wAAOSwUKxYjY6-

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metal-Chief-...gAAOSw8HBZLvG3




Joe you're right. I didn't even notice the other one stuck in the screen door. That's why I asked. Not very versed in signs but they seemed cool and unique. Thanks for the assistance like you always give me. You are the man.

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 06-08-2017 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1669221)
They look pretty good to me because the two you are interested in are not of enough interest (I wouldn't think) to fake. That said, I know there area bunch of fake fenway/seals/somebody else signsout there.


Yea the fakes out there scare me and Joe brought up a great point.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1669234)
That is kind of generic advertising isn't it? I agree they probably won't be valuable enough to fake. That said I think I have seen more random things that are fake than are good. Be careful. I would imagine you could better tell in person. Good luck

Thanks Leon I am steering clear

khkco4bls 06-09-2017 05:30 AM

Most likely fake made to look old if you're selling that many signs with sports-related on them the most likely fake

Econteachert205 06-09-2017 05:41 AM

The last two are fake in my opinion. I am pretty positive. Unsure about the first.

rjackson44 06-09-2017 10:07 AM

all fake I see these at flea markets all the time ,,no good ..

EYECOLLECTVINTAGE 06-09-2017 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjackson44 (Post 1669353)
all fake I see these at flea markets all the time ,,no good ..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Econteachert205 (Post 1669265)
The last two are fake in my opinion. I am pretty positive. Unsure about the first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by khkco4bls (Post 1669262)
Most likely fake made to look old if you're selling that many signs with sports-related on them the most likely fake

Thank you my fellow board members!

steve B 06-10-2017 06:04 PM

One good way to check is to do a search for the brand or business shown on the sign. It may be less effective for some things, like the detective agency, but in a fairly widely collected field like fishing stuff it should work well. As an example his "chief pequa bait hooks" sign. Searched for "chief pequa bait hooks" and the only things that showed up were the signs, and another one for baits and lures. It would be really crazy if there was a brand that had signs made, but that didn't have enough sales for any of the product or packaging to survive.

Another way is to look at the item and see if it makes sense.
His auto dealer sign makes little sense. A dealership has a metal sign made- sometime after or during 1970 (The car shown is a 1970 Chevelle SS) And that sign shows a car that makes the sign dated after the current model year - maybe it's ok for another year or two, but Chevy updated the overall look regularly. And since they show a Chevelle, you'd assume they're a Chevy dealer. But there's no indication of it at all, not even a Chevy logo.
So in context the sign makes no sense. Maybe there were places that were dealers that didn't promote the primary brand, but that might not have even been allowed by Chevrolet.

If the items don't make sense, then I'd have to really look hard at his other items as being just modern decorative items as well.*

*There are always outliers, but they're unsual and someone having a bunch of those outliers should also seem suspect.

Steve B


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