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frankh8147 04-09-2013 06:14 PM

Gehrig, Yankees postcard help
 
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I recently won this linen post card. The seller stated it is from the early 30's and the player swinging is Lou Gehrig. I looked around and found a few sources that identified it as such-i have links below. It also states on the back that "for nearly a decade" that ball park was used for spring training, which would mean it would have probably been printed in 1933 or 1934. My question is, is this piece period authentic from the 20's? I know there have been a wide array of fantasy pieces around so thats what worries me.

http://www.captainsblog.info/2012/02...raining/13282/

http://www.vintageball.com/BallParkPostcardsPage2.html

frankh8147 04-09-2013 06:16 PM

If it helps, the post card appears to be linen.

aelefson 04-09-2013 07:12 PM

Hi-
I have one mailed from the late 1940s. In my quick research on my piece, I came to the belief it was not Gehrig, but I do not remember what brought me to this conclusion. I could see it being available in the 30s and 40s, but I highly doubt it was produced in the 1920s. Good luck in your research.

Alan

frankh8147 04-10-2013 04:39 AM

Thanks! Based on the fact that the postcard says they have been using that field for almost a decade, I also believe I can safely say it is not from the 20's. That should place the piece at 1933 at the earliest and I wouldnt be surprised if it was issued later than that- like in the 40's as you stated.

frankh8147 04-13-2013 09:27 AM

Bump-pretty sure this won't be making it into my Gehrig collection at this point but I figure i'll give it one more shot for good measure :) - anyone know anything about this?

glchen 04-13-2013 10:05 AM

I had originally thought that was a fantasy card because it looked somewhat similar to these fake Ruth postcards (where Ruth's picture is in an oval) (Link). However, since another poster has said that he has that postcard w/ a postmark from the 1940s, it does look like it's vintage, but just not sure who the player is. Sorry, can't add any more than that.

aelefson 04-13-2013 01:57 PM

To me, it almost looks more like Dimaggio than Gehrig, but I am not really good with player identifications.

Alan

pawpawdiv9 04-13-2013 02:11 PM

It is a 1940s postcard showing Lou Gehrig (insert) taking batting practice at St. Petersburg's New York Yankees training facility in Florida- good condition.

Look at this Ebay link..its the same one it looks like
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Postcard-Lot...item2329cae558

Look at the BOTTOM PIC..of its back side too!!
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Postcard-Lot-...0_57.JPG?rt=nc

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Postcard-Lot-...LmQ~~60_57.JPG

pawpawdiv9 04-14-2013 08:05 AM

Just ran across this today...the pic is very close to identical in the circle

Describe: 1936 NATIONAL CHICLE FINE PENS JOE DiMAGGIO SGC 20 ROOKIE YEAR RARE. Extremely scarce Rookie year issue of "The Yankee Clipper". DiMaggio made his debut for the Yankees in May of 1936 and lead the Bronx Bombers to 9 World Series titles over the next 13 years. The present offering shows a young Joe D in a classic follow-through with the catcher and umpire looking on.
Ebay link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1936-NATIONA...item2a2b1c5aa9
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1936-NATIONAL...kL!~~60_57.JPG

slidekellyslide 04-14-2013 09:27 AM

I don't know if it's Gehrig, but it is sold that way all the time.

collectbaseball 04-14-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9 (Post 1117475)
Just ran across this today...the pic is very close to identical in the circle

It's a shot from a similar angle, but the guy on the postcard is clearly a lefty!

frankh8147 08-14-2013 03:48 PM

Hah!!!
 
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It took me a while on this one but I think I might have a match. How does it look? For better clarity on the picture, here is a link http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lou-Gehrig-N...item20d654f597

drcy 08-14-2013 04:13 PM

At first, I saw a resemblance to Gehrig, especially the head, but wasn't certain it was Gehrig. With the last photo posted, I do believe it is Gehrig.

frankh8147 08-16-2013 12:12 PM

I do also- the positioning of the fence is what really made me realize I finally got it. Thanks for your help, I always liked the colors of this piece so im very happy I can finally add it to my Gehrig collection.

frankh8147 12-18-2018 01:51 PM

5 years later...
 
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Hello! I've been getting into baseball postcards more lately and stumbled on this again (5 years later) in my collection while going through other postcards and wanted to ask before discarding it..

It looks to be a postcard of Lou Gehrig (bottom picture) and wanted to know - what characteristics of the it established this as a 1940's (junk?) postcard rather than a possible 'playing days' issue. I'm not too great with postcard stock or color so I think it probably relates to that but wanted to know more precisely how to age it.

Thanks again! -Frank

frankh8147 12-18-2018 01:57 PM

...or it could just be Joe Jackson again..

Leon 12-18-2018 02:48 PM

I like the postcards and both look original to me (from the pics on the screen). I am not sure what the question is though? :).

.Ok, I think I see the question now. I would need to date the stamp mark but I think it could be early-mid 1930s based on the timing of the Yankees practicing there.

Lordstan 12-18-2018 02:58 PM

I do not believe there is any way the postcard is from the 20's, but I do believe it is very likely from the 1934 time period. I also believe it is likely to be Gehrig.

Below is a brochure promoting St Pete from 1934 and the Yankees along with Gehrig specifically, is used as part of their promotion. It would serve to reason that St Pete would also make postcards to sell around the same time frame.

I don't have one in my collection as there always seems to be something else I want to buy when one comes up for sale. LOL

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4440/...6b054d4e_c.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4375/...2b5ca2c6_c.jpg

frankh8147 12-18-2018 03:12 PM

Thanks for the replies! I see how my post could be a little confusing considering I started this topic 5 years ago and decided to revisit it now.

I have seen this postcard dated to around 1934 online but never saw any evidence behind it, so thank you;those are some really cool pieces you have!
-Frank

Lordstan 12-18-2018 03:17 PM

I did not see it when you first posted it as I don't read the card side as much.
Looking at the postcard, the player looks skinny, but the pose is really familiar. That along with the brochure makes me feel pretty comfortable with a mid 30's dating, but until we find on mailed we won't know fir sure

frankh8147 12-18-2018 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lordstan (Post 1837556)
I did not see it when you first posted it as I don't read the card side as much.
Looking at the postcard, the player looks skinny, but the pose is really familiar. That along with the brochure makes me feel pretty comfortable with a mid 30's dating, but until we find on mailed we won't know fir sure

Thanks! On the back of the postcard, it says they had been training in St. Petersburg for nearly a decade and since they started there in 1925, it actually matches up pretty well with that date. That said, I know a lot of issues were re-printed and other were printed for years after they were made (like Exhibits) so I agree, a postmarked card from around 34' would be pretty helpful.

slidekellyslide 12-18-2018 08:00 PM

I stand by my statement of 5 years ago. I don't know if it's Gehrig, but it's sold that way all the time.

docpatlv 12-18-2018 08:06 PM

It’s definitely Gehrig. I saved an image I found online that is a perfect match. I also had it dated as 1937.

Lordstan 12-18-2018 08:25 PM

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I found this just now. It is dated 1937 Spring Training.

glchen 12-18-2018 11:13 PM

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frankh8147 12-21-2018 06:45 PM

I'm glad I revisited this thread! Thanks everyone, that seems pretty definitive to me.


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