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scooter729 11-10-2023 11:56 AM

Awesome raw lots on eBay this morning
 
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Did anyone come away with any of these great lots? My $7K snipe on the E104-1 World Champs lot of 10 didn't even get placed, as the lot sold for just north of $10K. The Plank looked awesome in this lot!

A few other nice lots with a T206 Cobb OM and caramel Wagner, Matty, etc. Nothing flew under the radar by any means though!

bandrus1 11-10-2023 12:00 PM

I think the whole hobby thought they were going to strike gold sneaking bids in on these.. my 5700 with 15 seconds was fun lol

G1911 11-10-2023 12:12 PM

Had some really cool stuff across baseball and boxing, I was watching them all to see what happened. Seller must be ecstatic, doesn’t sound like he knew what he had.

NiceDocter 11-10-2023 12:32 PM

wow
 
Man I missed those..... there was an E card lot with a Wagner and a Mathewson also...... nothing got "stolen" but some darn good deals, especially on the first lot as pictured. For sure the seller didnt really appreciate what these were. You sneaky Net54 guys trying to snipe in secret.... a fellow just cant get a bargain around here any more LOL .

Snapolit1 11-10-2023 02:44 PM

As soon as you see an auction closing in the morning you basically know the seller is clueless.

Webster 11-10-2023 02:58 PM

E99s
 
If anyone picked up the E99s, please PM me…please.

ullmandds 11-10-2023 05:16 PM

damn! missed those!!

the e104s all With swift stamps on the verso ...amazing!!

Steve D 11-10-2023 07:19 PM

I didn't see these, but looking at the seller's history on ebay; you can call me sceptical.

Only one auction sold in the last year (for two 1990s gaming magazines), and before that, only several lots of US coins (mostly dimes).

V117collector 11-10-2023 08:42 PM

interesting and cool lot
 
wondering if anyone had the original link to the eBay listing. I can't seem to find the listing in my advanced search. thanks, Brad

brianp-beme 11-10-2023 08:44 PM

I was the underbidder on one of the seller's lots...and it definitely wasn't a lot that ended in the 4 or 5 digit zone.

Brian

scooter729 11-10-2023 08:54 PM

This link should take you to the original listing for the E104-1 World Champs lot….

bcbgcbrcb 11-10-2023 09:03 PM

Scott:

Couldn’t you have brought this to our attention before the auctions ended? What good does it do now when we can’t buy them any more? 😁

scooter729 11-10-2023 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb (Post 2387718)
Scott:

Couldn’t you have brought this to our attention before the auctions ended? What good does it do now when we can’t buy them any more? 😁

Sorry Phil - I know people typically love it around here when someone points out an ongoing eBay auction. Shame on me for not requesting Leon make it a sticky at the top of the page; we will do that for sure next time!!

bcbgcbrcb 11-10-2023 09:20 PM

It’s okay, Scott, we’ll let it go this time, especially since I don’t collect any of those cards. Next time, you know what to do……

Jewish-collector 11-10-2023 09:30 PM

Serious question. How much would the lot had gone for if the seller got them graded first ?

Casey2296 11-10-2023 09:34 PM

Not sure what honey hole this guy found but I was able to pick up the 1912 Jimmy Lewis Zeenut for $41, a card according to Ed hasn't surfaced for 9 years. I can only hope this guy keeps posting.

RCMcKenzie 11-10-2023 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve D (Post 2387699)
I didn't see these, but looking at the seller's history on ebay; you can call me sceptical.

Only one auction sold in the last year (for two 1990s gaming magazines), and before that, only several lots of US coins (mostly dimes).

I saw these and his other listings after I read Scott's post earlier today. He lives in Rancho Palos Verdes and tries to come across as naive, but knows to talk about reprints. He knows to put "Ty Cobb" in 2 listing titles and put the Matty in it's own auction, but can't search for 5 minutes to see what he has.

Like you say, past sales are $5 dime rolls and inexpensive comic books.

What was all that about "in their original English language." ?

Not a buyer.

D. Bergin 11-11-2023 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 2387730)
I saw these and his other listings after I read Scott's post earlier today. He lives in Rancho Palos Verdes and tries to come across as naive, but knows to talk about reprints. He knows to put "Ty Cobb" in 2 listing titles and put the Matty in it's own auction, but can't search for 5 minutes to see what he has.

Like you say, past sales are $5 dime rolls and inexpensive comic books.

What was all that about "in their original English language." ?

Not a buyer.


I'd wager the auctions are legit. Wading through his old feedback it looks like he sold thousands of of silver coins (one lot brought over 4 grand), and that's just from the feedback left. I tend to find only 1 in every 10 or so buyers leave any feedback nowadays.

He's probably slowly sifting through a relatives estate or something.

Not surprising a bunch of old cards that the uneducated might guess were just a bunch of beaters, were buried in there somewhere.

That said, I do find some of the descriptions humorous and a little bit sad about the incoming AI listing revolution it looks like lots of sellers are already using as a crutch.

From this listing of 5 rough T206 Piedmonts with a Ty Cobb:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15586703549...kAAOSwHPRlRP5Z

Description:

"This listing is for a set of five OBAK 1911 baseball cards, one of which features the legendary player Ty Cobb. The cards are of the single product type and are original, not licensed reprints. They belong to the T212 series and are considered vintage cards. The sports trading cards are in English language and were manufactured in the United States in 1911, during the Pre-WWI era."



:D:D:D

h2oya311 11-11-2023 09:41 AM

Agreed. Probably just poor use of AI. I still think he got pretty good value, perhaps knowing that coming across as naive might elicit more bidding since eBayers might think they had stumbled across a “great deal”. I was certainly watching all of those lots, but chose to pass when the bidding became fervent.

The E104-1 lot was clearly the best of the bunch. They each had the same back stamp (“Swift”) from a discovery from several years back (2007?). I think REA had auctioned a few of them - or at least a Plank.

RCMcKenzie 11-11-2023 11:01 AM

Good points about Chatgtp or whatever he used. He could have just searched Cobb Piedmont on eBay and figured out what he had. I know nothing about coins or comic books, but I know not to list stuff before I know what it is. "Old crummy Superman comic book." etc. Good luck, all.

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-11-2023 04:47 PM

I'd be worried that the account hadn't had any transactions for over a year. Seems like the classic - take over of a dormant account. I'd be worried that it's all an illusion.

RCMcKenzie 11-11-2023 06:44 PM

Yes, my concern was with the titles and descriptions. The pics were nicer than some power sellers on eBay. He knew the backs were important to scan and show.

My impression is that he is not from a foreign country, he's in a foreign country. I think ebay has guardrails for this kind of stuff now, so no one will be out 10 thousand dollars.

Leon 11-27-2023 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2387907)
I'd be worried that the account hadn't had any transactions for over a year. Seems like the classic - take over of a dormant account. I'd be worried that it's all an illusion.

I don't think they were an illusion.

brianp-beme 11-27-2023 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2392111)
I don't think they were an illusion.

Nice...looks like there might be an extra Mack and Davis for a front page auction.

Brian

scooter729 11-27-2023 11:06 AM

Congrats on the pickup, Leon - wonderful cards! I've only seen the version of the "Swift" stamp on the back, and not the "Swift's Variety Shop" - has that stamp version been seen before? (Apologies if that's a simple question - not an expert on the set.)

RCMcKenzie 11-27-2023 11:17 AM

Congrats, Leon. Glad it turned out well.

About 2 years ago I bought a T207 Napoleon on eBay from a lady that had zero feedback. She wasn't happy with the sale price $125, and sent a message telling me I was a lucky guy, but she was going to send it anyway, even though she thought about giving it back to her husband.

Steve D 11-27-2023 12:39 PM

Congratulations Leon!

I'm glad my skepticism turned out to be unfounded.

Steve

Leon 11-27-2023 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter729 (Post 2392120)
Congrats on the pickup, Leon - wonderful cards! I've only seen the version of the "Swift" stamp on the back, and not the "Swift's Variety Shop" - has that stamp version been seen before? (Apologies if that's a simple question - not an expert on the set.)

I 've probably watched these type cards as much as anyone, over the last 25+ yrs, and I don't recall the full name variety. I am sure I missed one or some? There must be some out there. But when I saw it I didn't remember seeing one.
Coincidentally, my type I already have with the "Champions" on front, has the stamp...

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Casey2296 11-27-2023 01:35 PM

Great pick up Leon, congrats.

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-27-2023 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2392111)
I don't think they were an illusion.

That's awesome, congrats. Glad I was wrong!

EDIT: Though maybe I'm not supposed to say I was wrong but, in keeping with current trends, come up with some crazy story about how they still don't actually exist

scooter729 11-27-2023 02:10 PM

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Great to hear, Leon - my Mack has the typical "Swift" stamp we have been accustomed to seeing as well....

mannequin1 11-27-2023 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter729 (Post 2387598)
Did anyone come away with any of these great lots? My $7K snipe on the E104-1 World Champs lot of 10 didn't even get placed, as the lot sold for just north of $10K. The Plank looked awesome in this lot!

A few other nice lots with a T206 Cobb OM and caramel Wagner, Matty, etc. Nothing flew under the radar by any means though!

Can someone post an ebay link for these cards?

scooter729 11-27-2023 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mannequin1 (Post 2392182)
Can someone post an ebay link for these cards?

This link should take you to the original listing.....

brianp-beme 11-27-2023 04:12 PM

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Here is a 1911 pharmacy trade publication article in THE SPATULA about Swift's Variety Store that I found while I googled all over my keyboard.

Note that the street address on the full store name stamp is slightly different...242 W. 23rd St. versus 244 W. 23rd St. Sounds like at some point around this time frame that "This quaint store" moved next door.


Brian

bigfish 11-27-2023 07:30 PM

Nice!
 
Great score Leon!

theshowandme 11-27-2023 07:38 PM

great pickup, love the Plank, and also a big fan of the Collins in this set

Leon 11-28-2023 02:53 PM

Great find and read, Brian. Interesting column. Thanks for the assist!

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2392203)
Here is a 1911 pharmacy trade publication article in THE SPATULA about Swift's Variety Store that I found while I googled all over my keyboard.

Note that the street address on the full store name stamp is slightly different...242 W. 23rd St. versus 244 W. 23rd St. Sounds like at some point around this time frame that "This quaint store" moved next door.


Brian


ccre 11-28-2023 03:02 PM

I sure hope so!

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2392118)
Nice...looks like there might be an extra Mack and Davis for a front page auction.

Brian


brianp-beme 11-28-2023 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2392493)
Great find and read, Brian. Interesting column. Thanks for the assist!

No problem Leon, always fun to do a little internet research, especially when it comes to identifying sources of pressed seaweed, which H.L. Swift makes sure is stocked on the limited shelves of his variety store, along with a bounty of postage stamps which he makes absolutely no money when selling.

I have to admit I am an avid reader of The Spatula, and use it to keep my pharmaceutical knowledge sharp and current. For example, I now know that opiates such as opium, morphine and cocaine should not be administered to infants as a sleeping aid.


Brian

bnorth 11-28-2023 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2392118)
Nice...looks like there might be an extra Mack and Davis for a front page auction.

Brian

The $1 section in the BST area would be perfect for them.:)

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2392498)
No problem Leon, always fun to do a little internet research, especially when it comes to identifying sources of pressed seaweed, which H.L. Swift makes sure is stocked on the limited shelves of his variety store, along with a bounty of postage stamps which he makes absolutely no money when selling.

I have to admit I am an avid reader of The Spatula, and use it to keep my pharmaceutical knowledge sharp and current. For example, I now know that opiates such as opium, morphine and cocaine should not be administered to infants as a sleeping aid.


Brian

I will also not recommend giving an infant cocaine as a sleep aid.:eek::D

Great pick up Leon. Those are some really cool looking cards.


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