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Archive 08-01-2006 04:21 PM

Question for you Nadja Caramel experts
 
Posted By: <b>Jim Clarke</b><p>Brought this card back from nationals and it has been dated by Mark Macrae between 1891-1896. What is the history of Nadja Caramel? <br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1154384184.JPG"> <br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1154384466.JPG">

Archive 08-01-2006 04:25 PM

Question for you Nadja Caramel experts
 
Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p><br />Jim,<br />All I know is that Nadja was based in St. Louis and that somebody on this board was able to isolate their whereabouts and in an earlier thread provide a picture of their facility. Sorry for telling you what you probably already know.<br />Scot

Archive 08-01-2006 04:28 PM

Question for you Nadja Caramel experts
 
Posted By: <b>Sean</b><p>here is my explanation<br /><br /><br /><br />E104 cards are broken down into 3 different sets. All E104 cards are very hard to find. The empty spaces in the checklists indicates that a card is not known (at least to me) of that player/back combination. Even though 2 of the sets consists of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh players it should be noted that Nadja was a company based in St. Louis, Missouri.<br /><br />Since ALL E104 cards are very hard to find it is difficult to easily say set 1, 2 or 3 is any harder to find. If you have any card not listed above please share it with your fellow collectors and send me a scan. I'd be glad to include it. Send to: petecld@earthlink.net <br /><br />E104.1 - This set of 18 cards consists of all Philadelphia Athletics players. They are all portraits and can be found with a "World's Champions 1910" tag line written over their heads along with an elephant logo on the chest. Each player may exist with a blank back or with a back that has a Nadja Caramel ad.<br /><br />These card would have been issued very late in the year 1910 or in 1911. <br /><br />Since no cards have been found with the "World's Champions 1910" line AND a Nadja back it is a possibility that these cards with the tag line were only distributed in the Philadelphia area. Why would a St. Louis company make a special effort to advertise for the Philadelphia team? This could also explain why when E104s are found, they are found with a blank back, signaling that their distribution was wider. This is pure speculation. <br /><br />Blank Backs<br />With tag line Blank Backs<br />Without tag line Nadja Back<br />With tag line Nadja Back<br />Without tag line <br />Baker, Athletics<br /> Baker, Athletics<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Barry, Athletics<br /> Barry, Athletics<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Bender, Athletics<br /> Bender, Athletics<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Collins, Athletics<br /> Collins, Athletics<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Davis, Athletics<br /> Davis, Athletics<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Dygert, Athletics<br /> Dygert, Athletics<br /> <br /> Dygert, Athletics<br /> <br />Hartsel, Athletics<br /> Hartsel, Athletics<br /> <br /> Hartsel, Athletics<br /> <br />Krause, Athletics<br /> Krause, Athletics<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Lapp, Athletics<br /> Lapp, Athletics<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Livingstone, Athletics<br /> Livingstone, Athletics<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Lord, Athletics<br /> Lord, Athletics<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Mack, Athletics<br /> Mack, Athletics<br /> <br /> Mack, Athletics<br /> <br />Morgan, Athletics<br /> Morgan, Athletics<br /> <br /> Morgan, Athletics<br /> <br />Murphy, Athletics<br /> Murphy, Athletics<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Oldring, Athletics<br /> Oldring, Athletics<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Plank, Athletics<br /> Plank, Athletics<br /> <br /> Plank, Athletics<br /> <br />Strunk, Athletics<br /> Strunk, Athletics<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Thomas, Athletics<br /> Thomas, Athletics<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /><br />E104.2 - This set of 11 cards consists of all Pittsburgh Pirates players from the 1909 season. They are all portraits and are the same poses used in the E90-2 American Caramels set. They can be found with backs that are blank or with a Nadja Caramels ad.<br /><br />Blank Backs Nadja Back <br />Adams, Pittsburgh<br /> Adams, Pittsburgh<br /> <br />Clarke, Pittsburgh<br /> <br /> <br />Gibson, Pittsburgh<br /> Gibson, Pittsburgh<br /> <br />Hyatt, Pittsburgh<br /> Hyatt, Pittsburgh<br /> <br />Leach, Pittsburgh<br /> <br /> <br />Leever, Pittsburgh<br /> <br /> <br />Maddox, Pittsburgh<br /> <br /> <br />Miller, Pittsburgh<br /> <br /> <br />Phillippi, Pittsburgh<br /> <br /> <br />Wagner, Pittsburgh<br /> Wagner, Pittsburgh<br /> <br />Wilson, Pittsburgh<br /> Wilson, Pittsburgh<br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br />E104.3 - So far, 31 cards are known in this set. As with the other E104 sets, they come with a black back or with a Nadja Caramels ad.<br /><br />The Chase card is a discovery made in 2001 by collector Andy Cook<br />The Wiltse card is a discovery made in 2003 by myself at the Atlantic City National<br />The Devlin card is a 2004 discovery made by Dan McKee.<br />The Doolancard is a discovery brought to light by collector Andy Cook <br /><br />Blank Backs Nadja Back <br />Abstein, St. Louis<br /> <br /> <br /><br /> Ames, New York<br /> <br />Bates, Philadelphia<br /> <br /> <br />Bransfield, Philadelphia<br /> Bransfield, Philadelphia<br /> <br />Bridwell, New York<br /> Brdiwell, New York<br /> <br /><br /> Chase, New York<br /> <br />Crandell, New York<br /> <br /> <br />Crawford, Detroit<br /> <br /> <br />Delahanty, Detroit<br /> <br /> <br />Devlin, New York <br /> <br /> Doolan, Philadelphia <br /> <br />Doyle, New York <br /> <br /> <br />Grant, Philadelphia<br /> Grant, Philadelphia<br /> <br />Jacklitsch, Philadelphia<br /> <br /> <br />Jennings, Detroit <br /> <br /> <br />Jones, D., Detroit<br /> <br /> <br /><br /> Jones, T., Detroit<br /> <br />Knabe, Philadelphia<br /> Knabe, Philadelphia<br /> <br /><br /> McGraw, New York<br /> <br />McIntyre, Detroit <br /> <br /> <br />Moore, Philadelphia<br /> <br /> <br />Moran, Philadelphia<br /> <br /> <br />Moriarity, Detroit<br /> <br /> <br />Mullin, Detroit <br /> <br /> <br />Murray, Detroit <br /> <br /> <br />Nicholls, Cleveland<br /> <br /> <br />O' Leary, Detroit<br /> <br /> <br />Schlei, New York <br /> Schlei, New York<br /> <br />Schmidt, Detroit<br /> <br /> <br />Seymore, Philadelphia <br /> Seymore, Philadelphia <br /> <br /><br /> Sparks, Philadelphia<br /> <br />Summers, Detroit <br /> <br /> <br />Willetts, Detroit<br /> Willetts, Detroit<br /> <br />Willis, Detroit<br /> <br /> <br /> Wiltse, New York <br />

Archive 08-01-2006 04:30 PM

Question for you Nadja Caramel experts
 
Posted By: <b>vertigojumps</b><p>You gotta be kidding me! <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />

Archive 08-01-2006 04:52 PM

Question for you Nadja Caramel experts
 
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Pete had not update his site in awhile, as evidenced by the lack of my e104-3s not being listed on the checklist.<br />Jay<br><br>Growing old is not optional, growing up is.

Archive 08-01-2006 04:59 PM

Question for you Nadja Caramel experts
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>This ain't gonna last long folks. No time to baby sit. <br /><br />Jim- Nadja Caramels were put out by Blanke-Wenneker Candy Company of St.Louis. Here is a sort of missing link (I think) box that seals the deal. It is patented 1890. <br /><br /><img src="http://luckeycards.com/pcandyboxnadja3.jpeg"><br /><img src="http://luckeycards.com/pcandyboxnadja1.jpeg"><br /><img src="http://luckeycards.com/pcandyboxnadja2.jpeg">

Archive 08-01-2006 05:54 PM

Question for you Nadja Caramel experts
 
Posted By: <b>joe</b><p>Who is Murray can't find this player ever playing for Detroit? Also, the only Willis I know of, played for Detroit in 1984.<br /><br />Joe

Archive 08-01-2006 06:31 PM

Question for you Nadja Caramel experts
 
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Sean's post is the longest by inches we have ever had. It's longer than the dead sea scrolls. Sean, you really need to go with a decaffeinated coffee.

Archive 08-01-2006 06:36 PM

Question for you Nadja Caramel experts
 
Posted By: <b>Bob Pomilla</b><p>Uh, why would Sean ask for info to be sent to Pete Calderon. And since when is Sean this articulate?

Archive 08-01-2006 06:44 PM

Question for you Nadja Caramel experts
 
Posted By: <b>joe</b><p>Bob, you are right, I had to go back and check previous posts, because of the content and signon name<br /><br />Joe

Archive 08-01-2006 06:48 PM

Question for you Nadja Caramel experts
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I have emailed Sean privately twice today. My prediction of 2-3 days might not make it.....

Archive 08-01-2006 07:40 PM

Question for you Nadja Caramel experts
 
Posted By: <b>Mike</b><p>Looks like summer school is working for Sean. As for everyone who thought he was an adult, looks like you might have been right about this one.<br /><br />Oops, sorry. I just read the first few lines and didn't realize he had copied and inserted the content. My bad.

Archive 08-01-2006 08:56 PM

Question for you Nadja Caramel experts
 
Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>Who would have ever guessed that Sean is actually our resident caramel expert Pete C. <br /><br />How clever Pete - you almost had me fooled but I recognized that write up the minute I read it. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>


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