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FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list
Dated Oct 6, 2020
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...dDRUMx25bk.jpg DRUM backs confirmed....total = 159 subjects.....INCOMPLETE 350-only Series....................... 123 subjects confirmed.....INCOMPLETE Abstein Adkins Arellanes Armbruster Atz Barbeau Jack Barry (A's) Barry (Milwaukee) Batch Becker Bescher (portrait) Bliss Burke Bush Carr Casey Cassidy Chance (yellow portrait) Charles Clark Cobb (red portrait) Congalton Davidson Delehanty (Louisville) Dessau Dineen Donovan (throwing) Dorner Downey (fielding) Downs Egan Engle Evers (Chicago-yellow sky) Fiene (portrait) Fiene (throwing) Fletcher Freeman Gasper Graham (Boston) Hallman Hartsel Hayden Hinchman (Toledo) Hoblitzell Hofman Danny Hoffman (St Louis) Howell (portrait) Huggins (Portrait) Huggins (hands at mouth) Hunter Jackson Kelley Killian (portrait) Kisinger Knabe Knight (portrait) Knight (bat) Krause (portrait) Krause (pitching) Kroh LaPorte Lattimore Lavender Lennox Livingstone Maddox Maloney Marshall McAleese McBride McGann Matt McIntyre (Detroit) Milan Milligan Mitchell (Cincinnati) Mitchell (Toronto) Moeller Moran (Chicago) Moran (Providence) Moriarty Mullen (portrait) Murray (bat) Myers (batting) Myers (fielding) Nattress Oakes Perring Pfeister (seated) Phelps Phillippe Pickering Purtell Quinn Randall Raymond Rhoades (hands at chest) Rhodes Ritter Rudolph Schirm Schlafly Schmidt (portrait) Schreck Scott Slagle Smith (Buffalo) Snodgrass (bat) Speaker Starr Stephens Strang Street (portrait) Summers Sweeney (Boston) Jess Tannehill (Wash.) Taylor Thielman Thomas Titus Unglaub Warhop Willett (bat) Zimmerman 350/460 Series..........................36 subjects confirmed.....INCOMPLETE Baker Bender (no trees) Burch (fielding) Conroy (bat) Crawford (bat) Doolan (bat) Downey (bat) Doyle (bat) Elberfeld (Washington-fielding) Griffith (bat) Jennings (two hands) Johnson (pitching) Jordan (bat) Konetchy (glove low) Lake (St Louis-no ball) Leifield (bat) Magee (bat) Manning (pitching) McQuillan (bat) Murphy (bat) Nichols (bat) Overall (yellow sky) Pelty (vertical) Pfeister (throwing) Reulbach (no glove) Rucker (throwing) Seymour (throwing) Stahl (glove) Steinfeldt (bat) Street (catching) Sweeney (New York) Wagner (bat on right shoulder) Wilhelm (bat) Willetts Willis (bat) Wiltse (pitching) Note..... The Mullin (with bat) card has yet to be confirmed. TED Z ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Re: T206 DRUM confirmed list
Hello Ted,
Thanks again for taking the time to post the confirmed T206 back lists. Lots of hard work. Private email sent regarding some additions so you can update this list. Art |
Ted Z
continuing great work, Ted.
i'm mighty grateful. i'm especially fond of the Moeller on this Drum list. best, barry |
FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list
Thanks to Art and Jeremy, who have emailed me with new inputs, this list is updated to 139 confirmed T206's
with the DRUM back. TED Z |
FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list
A Net54 reader emailed me that he has Ira Thomas with a DRUM back.
This card is a heretofore unreported front/back combo. I just love it when a new DRUM card shows up. TED Z |
Thanks Ted.
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Bang the DRUM's slowly
You're very welcome Jim......have a happy 4th of July.
OK guys, there are still more of these DRUM's hiding somewhere out there.....keep searching. TED Z |
FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list
One more opportunity to contribute to this list. Recently, a long time collector (from the 1960's) contacted me with a new DRUM input.
Events like this should give us hope, that some more of these extremely rare T206's remain to be reported. Thanks for your time and effort. T-Rex TED |
Barry A......
Thanks guy.......there are some DRUM's that show up in multiples; and then, there are other DRUM's that are unique.
Your Moeller is a unique data point in this survey. The Thomas that was recently reported is also a unique data point. Just thought you would like to know. Best regards ole buddy, T-Rex TED |
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Many thanks, Ted.
I am very,very happy to hear of the uniqueness, the singularity of my Moeller. I must say that its provenance pleases me the most!!!! all the best to you, my friend Barry |
FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list
A Net54 reader emailed me confirming Purtell with a DRUM back.
This card raises the total to 141 confirmed DRUM backs. TED Z |
FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list
Hey guys, this survey has been up for 19 days, and has had 850 hits....yet no one has commented on the Kleinow (Boston)
card with a DRUM 350 back. This lack of response really surprises me, as I'm sure that many of you know that this card is classified as a 460-only series subject. Anyhow, I have just posted a thread on this paradox. Check it out....and, I'd be interested in hearing from you on this find ? TED Z |
Hey guys....question regarding Purtell with DRUM back ?
1st....A Net54 reader emailed me confirming Kisinger with a DRUM back.
This card raises the grand total to 142 confirmed DRUM backs. 2nd....Important question to anyone who has Billy Purtell with a DRUM back. Can you please tell me the team identification on this card ? Thanks much, TED Z |
FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list
These DRUM cards continue to trickle in. The latest to be reported is Taylor.
This raises the grand total to 143 confirmed DRUM's. TED Z |
FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list
Myers (fielding) is the latest DRUM card to be confirmed.
This raises the grand total to 144 confirmed DRUM cards. TED Z |
ted
as always, your metiiculous recording and analysis of the critical yet often trickling corroborating data and your ongoing research efforts are most commendable,
all the best, ole buddy barry |
FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list
Downey (batting) is a new DRUM input that has been reported.
This card brings the grand total of confirmed DRUM cards to 145. TED Z |
I am very grateful for your hard work. Thanks, Ted.
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FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list
Isaac
Thanks for your kind words. I received an email from a Net54 reader confirming Stephens with a DRUM back. This brings the tally to 146 cards with DRUM backs. See you all in Baltimore this week. TED Z |
FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list
This is the 11th of 15 threads that will provide the most up to date lists of the confirmed cards with the various T206 backs.
The DRUM cards depict players in the 350-only series and the 350/460 series, which comprise of a possible total of 270 subjects. These cards were issued circa..Summer/Fall of 1910. <img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/at206quintuplicatedesign.jpg" alt="[linked image]"> DRUM backs confirmed....total = 147 subjects 350-only subjects...................112 subjects Abstein Adkins Arellanes Armbruster Atz Barbeau Jack Barry (A's) Barry (Milwaukee) Batch Becker Bescher (portrait) Burke Carr Casey Charles Clark Congalton Davidson Delehanty (Louisville) Dineen Donovan (throwing) Dorner Downey (fielding) Downs Egan Engle Fiene (portrait) Fiene (throwing) Fletcher Freeman Gasper Graham (Boston) Hallman Hartsel Hinchman (Toledo) Hoblitzell Hofman Howell (portrait) Huggins (hands at mouth) Hunter Jackson Kelley Killian (portrait) Kisinger Knabe Knight (portrait) Knight (bat) Krause (portrait) Krause (pitching) Kroh LaPorte Lattimore Lavender Lennox Livingstone Maddox Maloney Marshall McAleese McBride McGann Milan Mitchell (Cincinnati) Mitchell (Toronto) Moeller Moran (Chicago) Moran (Providence) Moriarty Mullen (portrait) Murray (bat) Myers (fielding) Nattress Oakes Perring Pfeister (seated) Phelps Phillippe Pickering Purtell Quinn Randall Raymond Rhoades (hands at chest) Rhodes Ritter Rudolph Schirm Schlafly Schmidt (portrait) Scott Slagle Smith (Buffalo) Snodgrass (bat) Speaker Starr Stephens Strang Street (portrait) Summers Sweeney (Boston) Taylor Thielman Thomas Titus Unglaub Warhop Willett (bat) Zimmerman Super-Prints (350-only subjects)......4 subjects (to date); and, 2 not yet confirmed Chance (yellow portrait) Chase (dark cap) Cobb (red portrait) Evers (Chicago-yellow sky) Chase (blue portrait)...................... not yet Mathewson (dark cap) ................... not yet 350/460 subjects..........................35 cards Baker Bender (no trees) Burch (fielding) Conroy (bat) Crawford (bat) Doolan (bat) Downey (bat) Doyle (bat) Elberfeld (Washington-fielding) Griffith (bat) Jennings (two hands) Johnson (pitching) Jordan (bat) Konetchy (glove low) Lake (St Louis-no ball) Leifield (bat) Magee (bat) Manning (pitching) McQuillan (bat) Murphy (bat) Nichols (bat) Overall (yellow sky) Pelty (vertical) Pfeister (throwing) Reulbach (no glove) Rucker (throwing) Seymour (throwing) Steinfeldt (bat) Street (catching) Sweeney (New York) Wagner (bat on right shoulder) Wilhelm (bat) Willetts Willis (bat) Wiltse (pitching) NOTE I expect these 350/460 subjects will eventually be discovered with DRUM backs, since the DRUM and AB 350 (no frame) cards are correlated............ Conroy (bat)........CONFIRMED Mullin (bat) Stahl (glove) TED Z |
FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list
DRUM connection with AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 cards. The following rules can be used as a guide for determining which T206's are found with the DRUM back.
350-only series There are 190 subjects in this series that were printed with the AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 frame back (circa..Summer of 1910). My "A-B-C-D" theory (see NOTE) suggests that these 190 subjects were also printed with the BROAD LEAF 350, CYCLE 350 and DRUM backs. For the greater part, this has been proven true for the BROAD LEAF 350 and CYCLE 350 cards. However....to date....only 107 subjects in the 350-only series have been found with the DRUM back. Recent DRUM finds these past several years have added new DRUM's to this tally. Eventually, I expect that we will find the outstanding DRUM cards. 350-only series example http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...erfeldDRUM.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...rfeldDRUMb.jpg 350/460 series example 350/460 series The AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (AB 350) cards in the 350/460 series were printed without the frame. We have confirmed 37 of the subjects in this series with this AB 350 back. It appears that American Lithographic also printed these 37 guys with DRUM backs. To date, 34 have been confirmed with the DRUM back. The 3 outstanding guys that have yet to be discovered are...... Conroy (bat)........CONFIRMED Mullin (bat) Stahl (glove) NOTE....A-B-C-D stylistic pattern http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7.../ABCDxT206.jpg For more info on this A-B-C-D pattern, check-out these two threads...... http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...eaf-cycle-drum http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...eaf-cycle-drum TED Z |
FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list....UPDATED (April 2013)
Back in April, Ron Oser called me that he had found two T206 DRUM cards.....Jack Barry and Topsy Hartsel.
He asked me if these two T206 cards were known DRUM's. At that date, they were not. I told Ron that he discovered two new DRUM's. I then added them to my 350-only subjects list....that raised the tally to 107 confirmed DRUM subjects. TED Z __________________________________________________ ______________________ LOOKING FOR these T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set AMES....CAMNITZ....CRAWFORD (bat)....DOYLE (port)....JORDAN (bat)....MARQUARD McGRAW (port-cap).....McQUILLAN (bat).....TINKER (bat off).....WILTSE (port-cap) |
FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list....UPDATED (April 2013)
My research indicates that every AB 350 (no frame) subject that was printed with a BROAD LEAF 460 (BL 460) back will also be found with a DRUM back. Therefore,
let's consider the three AB 350 (no frame) subjects that have yet to be confirmed with the DRUM back...... Conroy (bat) Mullin (bat) Stahl (glove) Conroy & Mullin both were also printed with the AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 back. Therefore, due to my "mutually exclusive" rule, I do not expect these 2 subjects to be found with the BL 460 back....consequently there is a slim (or no) chance that they were printed with a DRUM back. On the other hand, the Jake Stahl has been confirmed with the BL 460 back. And, I will bet that Stahl will eventually be found with the DRUM back. TED Z __________________________________________________ ______________________ LOOKING FOR these T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set AMES....CAMNITZ....CRAWFORD (bat)....DOYLE (port)....JORDAN (bat)....MARQUARD McGRAW (port-cap).....McQUILLAN (bat).....TINKER (bat off).....WILTSE (port-cap) |
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FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list....UPDATED (Aug 2015)
At the National last week, Chris Browne reported that he found Stahl (glove) with a DRUM back.
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eStahlDRUM.jpg The DRUM cards depict players in the 350-only series and the 350/460 series. The DRUM cards were issued circa....Summer/Fall of 1910. http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7.../ABCDxT206.jpg DRUM backs confirmed....total = 149 subjects 350-only subjects.................... 113 subjects Abstein Adkins Arellanes Armbruster Atz Barbeau Jack Barry (A's) Barry (Milwaukee) Batch Becker Bescher (portrait) Burke Carr Casey Charles Clark Congalton Davidson Delehanty (Louisville) Dessau Dineen Donovan (throwing) Dorner Downey (fielding) Downs Egan Engle Fiene (portrait) Fiene (throwing) Fletcher Freeman Gasper Graham (Boston) Hallman Hartsel Hinchman (Toledo) Hoblitzell Hofman Howell (portrait) Huggins (hands at mouth) Hunter Jackson Kelley Killian (portrait) Kisinger Knabe Knight (portrait) Knight (bat) Krause (portrait) Krause (pitching) Kroh LaPorte Lattimore Lavender Lennox Livingstone Maddox Maloney Marshall McAleese McBride McGann Milan Mitchell (Cincinnati) Mitchell (Toronto) Moeller Moran (Chicago) Moran (Providence) Moriarty Mullen (portrait) Murray (bat) Myers (fielding) Nattress Oakes Perring Pfeister (seated) Phelps Phillippe Pickering Purtell Quinn Randall Raymond Rhoades (hands at chest) Rhodes Ritter Rudolph Schirm Schlafly Schmidt (portrait) Scott Slagle Smith (Buffalo) Snodgrass (bat) Speaker Starr Stephens Strang Street (portrait) Summers Sweeney (Boston) Taylor Thielman Thomas Titus Unglaub Warhop Willett (bat) Zimmerman Super-Prints (350-only subjects)......4 subjects (to date); and, 2 not yet confirmed Chance (yellow portrait) Chase (dark cap) Cobb (red portrait) Evers (Chicago-yellow sky) Chase (blue portrait)...................... not yet Mathewson (dark cap) ................... not yet 350/460 subjects..........................36 cards Baker Bender (no trees) Burch (fielding) Conroy (bat) Crawford (bat) Doolan (bat) Downey (bat) Doyle (bat) Elberfeld (Washington-fielding) Griffith (bat) Jennings (two hands) Johnson (pitching) Jordan (bat) Konetchy (glove low) Lake (St Louis-no ball) Leifield (bat) Magee (bat) Manning (pitching) McQuillan (bat) Murphy (bat) Nichols (bat) .......................... initial press runs Overall (yellow sky) Pelty (vertical) Pfeister (throwing) Reulbach (no glove) Rucker (throwing) Seymour (throwing) Stahl (glove) .......................... replaced Nichols in subsequent press runs Steinfeldt (bat) Street (catching) Sweeney (New York) Wagner (bat on right shoulder) Wilhelm (bat) Willetts Willis (bat) Wiltse (pitching) NOTE Several years ago, I predicted that these three 350/460 subjects would eventually be discovered with DRUM backs. Recently, 2 have been confirmed. Mullin remains to be discovered to complete this series. Conroy (bat) ............ CONFIRMED Mullin (bat) Stahl (glove) ............ CONFIRMED TED Z . |
FYI....T206 DRUM confirmed list....UPDATED (April 2016)
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The DRUM cards depict players in the 350-only series and the 350/460 series. The DRUM cards were issued circa....Summer/Fall of 1910.
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7.../ABCDxT206.jpg DRUM backs confirmed....total = 151 subjects 350-only subjects.................... 115 subjects Abstein Adkins Arellanes Armbruster Atz Barbeau Jack Barry (A's) Barry (Milwaukee) Batch Becker Bescher (portrait) Burke Carr Casey Charles Clark Congalton Davidson Delehanty (Louisville) Dessau Dineen Donovan (throwing) Dorner Downey (fielding) Downs Egan Engle Fiene (portrait) Fiene (throwing) Fletcher Freeman Gasper Graham (Boston) Hallman Hartsel Hayden Hinchman (Toledo) Hoblitzell Hofman Howell (portrait) Huggins (hands at mouth) Hunter Jackson Kelley Killian (portrait) Kisinger Knabe Knight (portrait) Knight (bat) Krause (portrait) Krause (pitching) Kroh LaPorte Lattimore Lavender Lennox Livingstone Maddox Maloney Marshall McAleese McBride McGann Milan Mitchell (Cincinnati) Mitchell (Toronto) Moeller Moran (Chicago) Moran (Providence) Moriarty Mullen (portrait) Murray (bat) Myers (fielding) Nattress Oakes Perring Pfeister (seated) Phelps Phillippe Pickering Purtell Quinn Randall Raymond Rhoades (hands at chest) Rhodes Ritter Rudolph Schirm Schlafly Schmidt (portrait) Schreck Scott Slagle Smith (Buffalo) Snodgrass (bat) Speaker Starr Stephens Strang Street (portrait) Summers Sweeney (Boston) Taylor Thielman Thomas Titus Unglaub Warhop Willett (bat) Zimmerman Super-Prints (350-only subjects)......4 subjects (to date); and, 2 not yet confirmed Chance (yellow portrait) Chase (dark cap) Cobb (red portrait) Evers (Chicago-yellow sky) Chase (blue portrait)...................... not yet Mathewson (dark cap) ................... not yet 350/460 subjects..........................36 cards Baker Bender (no trees) Burch (fielding) Conroy (bat) Crawford (bat) Doolan (bat) Downey (bat) Doyle (bat) Elberfeld (Washington-fielding) Griffith (bat) Jennings (two hands) Johnson (pitching) Jordan (bat) Konetchy (glove low) Lake (St Louis-no ball) Leifield (bat) Magee (bat) Manning (pitching) McQuillan (bat) Murphy (bat) Nichols (bat) Overall (yellow sky) Pelty (vertical) Pfeister (throwing) Reulbach (no glove) Rucker (throwing) Seymour (throwing) Stahl (glove) Steinfeldt (bat) Street (catching) Sweeney (New York) Wagner (bat on right shoulder) Wilhelm (bat) Willetts Willis (bat) Wiltse (pitching) In April, I received a call from an old friend in the St Louis area, who informed me of a new find of T206's which included these 3 - DRUM cards. Two of these DRUM's were heretofore unknown (Hayden and Schreck). These 2 cards raise the total of confirmed DRUM cards to 151. The 3rd DRUM is LaPorte (only one was previously confirmed). These DRUM' cards have been graded.....Hayden is an SGC 10.....Schreck is an SGC 10.....LaPorte is an SGC 20. They have been consigned to Heritage's summer auction. TED Z . |
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