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A2000 07-18-2017 09:37 PM

W600 Sporting Life Cabinet Honus Wagner PSA 7..wow
 
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Any idea what this might sell for nowadays?

Bicem 07-18-2017 11:09 PM

100k?

pcoz 07-19-2017 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 1682331)
100k?



At least that I'd think, wow!


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barrysloate 07-19-2017 04:12 AM

125-150K.

At that level of condition and rarity, assume it will go higher than you might expect.

iowadoc77 07-19-2017 06:46 AM

Just depends if there are 2 or more who "have to " have it!

ullmandds 07-19-2017 06:47 AM

someone will most surely "have to have that!"

oldjudge 07-19-2017 08:26 AM

Nice. Is it in an upcoming auction?

A2000 07-19-2017 08:35 AM

I don't know if it's for an upcoming auction or if it's going to be for sale. I just saw it on the front page of PSA's website.

ullmandds 07-19-2017 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by A2000 (Post 1682389)
I don't know if it's for an upcoming auction or if it's going to be for sale. I just saw it on the front page of PSA's website.

And I thought it was your baby!!!!!

the-illini 07-19-2017 11:31 AM

Amazing card but I would be nervous as hell about the corners getting dinged when it inevitably floats around in that oversized holder...

MR RAREBACK 07-19-2017 12:44 PM

300k

pokerplyr80 07-19-2017 12:56 PM

I just checked the pop report, this is the only type 4 in a pittsburg uniform psa has graded. In any grade. There are 9 non type 4s graded. I do not know what the difference is. The next highest grade is a 5.

For the nicest example of such a rare and important card the sky's the limit. It would be a great addition to any of the finest collections in the world. Out of my league, but it's a great looking card. I wouldn't be surprised to see it go well into the 6 figures.

sb1 07-19-2017 01:00 PM

There are many type 4's, the PSA pop did not record them for some time. A quick internet search will bring up a dozen or so different ones, if you wade thru both the images and the listings.

iowadoc77 07-19-2017 03:53 PM

I have always thought that there should be a different grading scale for cabinets. That thing is freaking beautiful and it is a 7. One of the nicest cabinets I have ever seen. Granted i can't see the back but that looks like at least an 8 to me!? Really really nice card

JollyElm 07-19-2017 04:04 PM

What year(s) is that from? Why isn't it stated?? Isn't that virtually the first thing a person looks for on a slab?

MR RAREBACK 07-19-2017 04:11 PM

1902-1911

Baseball Rarities 07-19-2017 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 1682536)
What year(s) is that from? Why isn't it stated?? Isn't that virtually the first thing a person looks for on a slab?

Sometime between 1904 and 1912.

Steve D 07-20-2017 12:42 PM

Here are some more W600s PSA just graded, from the same collection as the Wagner:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFMnXpBUMAAPnb3.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFMn8i4UMAEL3l-.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFMogu9UMAEnvGp.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFMpoKiU0AADw95.jpg

Steve

benchod 07-20-2017 01:11 PM

Omg
Those are fantastic

Steve D 07-20-2017 01:17 PM

Here are the other cards from the collection, according to PSA's database (every single one is listed as a Pop 1/0):

Jake Beckley - Type 2 - PSA 6.5
Chief Bender (Uniform) - Type 4 - PSA 6.5
Mordecai Brown - type 4 - PSA 6mk
Jack Chesbro - Type 2 - PSA 4.5
Fred Clarke (Uniform) - Type 4 - PSA 6
Frank Chance (Uniform) - Type 1 - PSA 4mk
Eddie Collins - Type 4 - PSA 5mk
Sam Crawford - Type 2 - PSA 6
Ed Delehanty (Street) - Type 1 - PSA 6.5
Clark Griffith - Type 3 - PSA 6
Addie Joss - Type 2 - PSA 6
Willie Keeler - Type 1 - PSA 4.5
Joe Kelley (Street) - Type 1 - PSA 6
Nap Lajoie (Uniform) - Type 4 - PSA 5mk
Connie Mack - Type 4 - PSA 5
Christy Mathewson (Uniform) - Type 4 - PSA 7mk
Joe McGinnity (Street) - Type 2 - PSA 5.5
John McGraw (Infielder) - Type 2 - PSA 5.5
Rube Waddell - Type 4 - PSA 4mk

Steve

A2000 07-20-2017 01:32 PM

Oh my :eek:

The Cy Young and Cobb are beauties!

darwinbulldog 07-20-2017 01:52 PM

:eek:

darwinbulldog 07-20-2017 01:57 PM

Somebody getting his collection REAdy for the fall?

Baseball Rarities 07-20-2017 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve D (Post 1682772)
Here are the other cards from the collection, according to PSA's database (every single one is listed as a Pop 1/0):

There are other HOFers that were just graded as part of this collection as wel. The only reason why they are 1/0 is because PSA just started differentiating the four different mounts. All of these cards were known to exist.

Condition wise, this is the finest collection of W600 Hall of Famers that I know of. I would love to see them come to the market.

SMPEP 07-20-2017 02:48 PM

Those card doctors are creating some nice beauties these days!

Gotta have it!

Snapolit1 07-20-2017 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SMPEP (Post 1682791)
Those card doctors are creating some nice beauties these days!

Gotta have it!

Seems like the response now every time someone shows a really nice anything. Yes, everything really nice is doctored somehow and fake.

Nothing personal but these responses always come off like a lot of sour grapes.

irv 07-20-2017 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by benchod (Post 1682770)
Omg
Those are fantastic

I concur!!

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Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities (Post 1682784)
There are other HOFers that were just graded as part of this collection as wel. The only reason why they are 1/0 is because PSA just started differentiating the four different mounts. All of these cards were known to exist.

Condition wise, this is the finest collection of W600 Hall of Famers that I know of. I would love to see them come to the market.

Anyone know where these were found or who they belong too?

I am not implying being Dr'd one bit but it always amazes me that something this old and what it/they are made of can be in this good of condition.

I assume these were likely placed between book pgs many many years ago or into something I am not familiar with?
Needless to say, I am glad the person(s) these belonged to took such great care of them!

spaidly 07-20-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by benchod (Post 1682770)
Omg
Those are fantastic

I concur and I don't like cabinets.

paul 07-20-2017 05:21 PM

It seems like people know a lot about these specific cards, but they aren't saying who they belong to or whether they will be up for sale ....

Baseball Rarities 07-20-2017 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by paul (Post 1682835)
It seems like people know a lot about these specific cards, but they aren't saying who they belong to or whether they will be up for sale ....

This seems to be the Copeland group that sold back in March of 1991. That group had a total of 70 cabinets including over 50 different Hall of Famers (counting different poses). I was at the auction and the lot did not meet its minimum bid, but sold privately immediately afterwards. I remember that the overall condition of the lot was absolutely amazing. I have not corresponded with their current owner, but, as far as I know, he just got them graded and they are going right back into his collection.

Steve D 07-20-2017 05:53 PM

Here are three more:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFNKxmcUwAAZZNO.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFNKUWWVwAAhr8Y.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFNHOkLUwAAtyjH.jpg


Steve

BeanTown 07-20-2017 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities (Post 1682784)
There are other HOFers that were just graded as part of this collection as wel. The only reason why they are 1/0 is because PSA just started differentiating the four different mounts. All of these cards were known to exist.

Condition wise, this is the finest collection of W600 Hall of Famers that I know of. I would love to see them come to the market.

+1 as I would think just the price of the Wagner or the Cobb would double what the cost of the entire group cost back in 1991.

A2000 07-20-2017 07:34 PM

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Christy Mathewson :eek:

pherbener 07-20-2017 07:35 PM

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Love the Matty!!

irv 07-20-2017 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by the-illini (Post 1682444)
Amazing card but I would be nervous as hell about the corners getting dinged when it inevitably floats around in that oversized holder...

Those holders look like they use the same/similar black gasket as SGC?

I can't imagine those cards are in there loose, but I have no idea?

jb217676 07-20-2017 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 1682863)
Those holders look like they use the same/similar black gasket as SGC?

I can't imagine those cards are in there loose, but I have no idea?

No gasket Dale, they were scanned using the "lid up" technique.

A2000 07-20-2017 07:41 PM

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Lajoie

A2000 07-20-2017 07:44 PM

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Wow

A2000 07-20-2017 07:54 PM

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I'd be happy to pick up just a 'common' player from this batch.

irv 07-20-2017 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jb217676 (Post 1682864)
No gasket Dale, they were scanned using the "lid up" technique.

So there is nothing from stopping those cards from moving around in there, Jeff?
All look perfectly centered/square in those slabs.

Personally, I'd be afraid to pick them up/move them if they can move around easily?

sb1 07-20-2017 08:38 PM

The error card in this group is mind boggling. These are printed directly on the cabinet, there is no mounted photo. Yet we have a mismatched photo/caption. So perhaps the captions and images were separate print runs?? I don't think they were, so someone must have been having a bad at the printers.

paul 07-20-2017 09:18 PM

Thanks Kevin for the information about these cards. And thanks to everyone for posting the scans. I had never seen the Crawford Cincinnati before, or the Frank Chance.

Baseball Rarities 07-20-2017 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by paul (Post 1682892)
Thanks Kevin for the information about these cards. And thanks to everyone for posting the scans. I had never seen the Crawford Cincinnati before, or the Frank Chance.

i do not think that is Frank Chance. Does anyone know who is actually pictured?

The card on the left i what the card should look like. I have never seen an error like this on a W600.

pro9 07-20-2017 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sb1 (Post 1682879)
The error card in this group is mind boggling. These are printed directly on the cabinet, there is no mounted photo. Yet we have a mismatched photo/caption. So perhaps the captions and images were separate print runs?? I don't think they were, so someone must have been having a bad at the printers.

Looks like a bad day at PSA also......"Uniform"??

BeanTown 07-21-2017 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities (Post 1682784)
There are other HOFers that were just graded as part of this collection as wel. The only reason why they are 1/0 is because PSA just started differentiating the four different mounts. All of these cards were known to exist.

Condition wise, this is the finest collection of W600 Hall of Famers that I know of. I would love to see them come to the market.

Now that PSA gives a better description on W600s by including the Cabinet mount type, wonder how much would they charge to reholder ones graded before the change? This one of Cy is type 2

Kawika 07-21-2017 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities (Post 1682900)
i do not think that is Frank Chance. Does anyone know who is actually pictured?

I'm thinking Ed Ruelbach.
ETA: I'm thinking I'm wrong.

sb1 07-21-2017 05:13 AM

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It's Harry Wolverton.

barrysloate 07-21-2017 07:42 AM

So should the miscaptioned one be considered a Chance or a Wolverton?

SMPEP 07-21-2017 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 1682793)
Seems like the response now every time someone shows a really nice anything. Yes, everything really nice is doctored somehow and fake.

Nothing personal but these responses always come off like a lot of sour grapes.

No sour grapes at all. Not something I collect. Not something I want actually.

But everytime someone peels back the curtain on a big card (the T206 Wagner, that WWG Gehrig recently, etc.) we find proof of card doctoring.

So anyone with a shred of common sense knows that's as likely to be undoctored as Kaley Cuoco's boobs.

Snapolit1 07-21-2017 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SMPEP (Post 1682958)
No sour grapes at all. Not something I collect. Not something I want actually.

But everytime someone peels back the curtain on a big card (the T206 Wagner, that WWG Gehrig recently, etc.) we find proof of card doctoring.

So anyone with a shred of common sense knows that's as likely to be undoctored as Kaley Cuoco's boobs.

A lot of people enjoy fake boobs.


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