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h2oya311 10-18-2017 09:42 AM

Help with 1955 Salem Rebels Photo - Orlando Cepeda pictured?
 
Need some help with the photo below. I have owned this for a few years now and was under the impression that Orlando Cepeda is pictured with his teammates from the 1955 Salem Rebels.

However, now I am not so sure. This item was on Phil Garry's old "rookie" checklist but I don't see Cepeda. The guy in the top row is far too dark skinned and the kid up front has an unusual mole and looks a bit scrawny (even though he would have been about 16 years old).

As much as I'd hate to have my suspicion confirmed, I'd like to know for a fact before trying to sell this to someone else under a faulty and false assumption. I'd also like to remove this from the "rookie" checklist if, indeed, it isn't Cepeda.

https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...peda_13231.jpg

ooo-ribay 10-18-2017 03:07 PM

The kid in the front row does seem to resemble Orlando...

JollyElm 10-18-2017 04:00 PM

Honestly, I don't see The Baby Bull in that photo, but can you post either a larger full image or just enlarged headshots of the three candidates? Things will move quickly if you could.

ooo-ribay 10-18-2017 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 1711531)
Honestly, I don't see The Baby Bull in that photo, but can you post either a larger full image or just enlarged headshots of the three candidates? Things will move quickly if you could.

No way either guy in the back row is Orlando.

JollyElm 10-18-2017 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1711533)
No way either guy in the back row is Orlando.

Agreed, but it's important to be thorough.

bobw 10-18-2017 08:38 PM

I think the bottom player is Manuel Valdez

h2oya311 10-18-2017 11:35 PM

larger scan
 
Thanks for the feedback so far. Here's a much larger scan. Now you can see the mole I referenced
On the player in front.

https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...peda_13231.jpg

JollyElm 10-19-2017 01:29 AM

Sorry, there is no way in heck anyone in that pic is Cepeda.

h2oya311 10-19-2017 08:39 AM

Manuel Valdez
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobw (Post 1711630)
I think the bottom player is Manuel Valdez

Do you have any other pictures of Manuel Valdez to compare to (or is this just a hunch based on his last name)?

I tend to agree with other posters that it’s not Cepeda. I hate that I was willing to accept it as him when I purchased this photo years ago without inspecting it more closely.

bobw 10-19-2017 09:25 AM

Manuel Valdez
 
He played with the Decatur Commodores in 1953 and the Rebels in 1955

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4508/3...7086d19904.jpg

bnorth 10-19-2017 10:15 AM

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The 59 Topps card was the closest I could find to the same angle on his face. With the age difference it could easily be the same person. The "mole" seen on the old BW photo could be anything, there several stray dark spots on the photo.

ooo-ribay 10-19-2017 12:26 PM

The nose is somilar but the eyes of the Salem guy have a bit of an Asian look...

h2oya311 10-19-2017 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobw (Post 1711721)
He played with the Decatur Commodores in 1953 and the Rebels in 1955

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4508/3...7086d19904.jpg

Awesome! We have a winner! Thanks for ending the debate! Manuel Valdez is who is pictured in the Salem picture, not Orlando Cepeda. While there is a resemblance (per Ben's post), it is pretty obvious that this is Valdez.

I will update my "rookie" checklist accordingly and will make sure that this mis-identification does not persist (at least on my clock).

Thanks!


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