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ullmandds 01-29-2015 06:34 AM

Most overrated...overvalued VINTAGE card?
 
In your opinion...what VINTAGE BB card is the most overrated...overvalued card out there?

Now I'm not looking for T206 Wags...because it is what it is. I'm talking Zeenut Halla...T210 mascot card...T206 Shag/Titus...or even card once thought to be tough but eventually deemed not so much...ie T207 Loudy.

Jay Wolt 01-29-2015 06:49 AM

How bout Mr Ten Million?

ullmandds 01-29-2015 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Wolt (Post 1373092)
How bout Mr Ten Million?

Excellent choice!!!!

rats60 01-29-2015 06:52 AM

M101-5 Babe Ruth

ullmandds 01-29-2015 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 1373094)
M101-5 Babe Ruth

Controversial choice!!!!

ullmandds 01-29-2015 06:58 AM

I feel like Adrian right about now!

TUM301 01-29-2015 07:01 AM

For over rated I`d say, the Play Ball Joe Jackson card. Big a fan as the next guy but a card 20 years after he`s active, rather spend the money on a different Jackson item.

ullmandds 01-29-2015 07:03 AM

Adrian totally agrees!

bn2cardz 01-29-2015 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1373097)
I feel like Adrian right about now!

Please start including a post number in your posts and refrain from posting when you get to #5... at that time start editing posts and/or start the count over again. :D

Leon 01-29-2015 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 1373107)
Please start including a post number in your posts and refrain from posting when you get to #5... at that time start editing posts and/or start the count over again. :D

and every single post has to have a response. Was that some wacky stuff or what? The forum post count and forum page views soared when he was around..

Mikehealer 01-29-2015 07:52 AM

Any of the "big glove" Dots Miller cards.

clydepepper 01-29-2015 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Wolt (Post 1373092)
How bout Mr Ten Million?

I'm not sure what card that's in reference to? Please share.

I agree that the Play Ball card of Joe Jackson is the most overvalued - and for the same reason, several others from that set as well (players appearing far outside of their careers - kind of like the current tribute card frenzy)

I have craved that Zeenut Halla card ever since the first time I saw it a few years ago...and since I have spent a lot to get the other cards I always wanted, that would be at the top of my list.

arcadekrazy 01-29-2015 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 1373124)
I'm not sure what card that's in reference to? Please share.

Obak card of "Ten Million". Family convinced his mother and father to name him ten, as a nice play on their surname (million) so that his name would stand out.

See pic (not my pic or my card) and this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Million

EvilKing00 01-29-2015 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TUM301 (Post 1373099)
For over rated I`d say, the Play Ball Joe Jackson card. Big a fan as the next guy but a card 20 years after he`s active, rather spend the money on a different Jackson item.

Agree!

ullmandds 01-29-2015 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikehealer (Post 1373123)
Any of the "big glove" Dots Miller cards.

Agreed...send all your T216 Millers to me!!!!!

Sean 01-29-2015 08:19 AM

T206 Magie.

It's nothing more that a 1909 version of a typo, but it sells for more than a T206 Cobb. :confused:

Pat R 01-29-2015 08:32 AM

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These

bn2cardz 01-29-2015 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1373135)
T206 Magie.

It's nothing more that a 1909 version of a typo, but it sells for more than a T206 Cobb. :confused:

Well in that same line of thought: Doyle Nat'l. An improper classification that causes a card to sell for prices similar to a t206 Wagner.

freakhappy 01-29-2015 08:38 AM

Welcome to the world of 206's, pat :) I agree pat...those slight errors are the worst!

Sean, wouldn't the value of magie have a lot to do with it's rarity? And not necessarily because it's overhyped?


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frankbmd 01-29-2015 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1373097)
I feel like Adrian right about now!

You look like Adrian now too.

Fred 01-29-2015 10:03 AM

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That T206 Murray card is just so annoying to look at.... :p

ullmandds 01-29-2015 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1373144)
You look like Adrian now too.

Do we know what Adrian looks like?

Eric72 01-29-2015 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1373184)
Do we know what Adrian looks like?

Often times, he looked like a train wreck to me. :D

glchen 01-29-2015 10:29 AM

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T209 B.E. Thompson (saying this, I want one). Here's a picture of one (not mine).

Sean 01-29-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by freakhappy (Post 1373143)
Welcome to the world of 206's, pat :) I agree pat...those slight errors are the worst!

Sean, wouldn't the value of magie have a lot to do with it's rarity? And not necessarily because it's overhyped?


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Yes, the error is rare. The card is the same as a MAGEE card, not rare at all.

freakhappy 01-29-2015 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1373209)
Yes, the error is rare. The card is the same as a MAGEE card, not rare at all.

For sure, but I guess we could say the same for Demmit and O'hara as well.

Oh yeah...put me down for the T206 Titus. A few years ago it was selling like a common should. A hoarder and some hype really made this card "rare".

Orioles1954 01-29-2015 11:32 AM

Obak Miller

obcbobd 01-29-2015 11:41 AM

T206 Titus

Jacklitsch 01-29-2015 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Orioles1954 (Post 1373224)
Obak Miller

1911 San Francisco

Overvalued because difficult to obtain since grandson hoarding 40-50 copies.

irishdenny 01-29-2015 12:45 PM

Any "Hand Cut" card that was graded Very High...
I get it that some of these cards are Crisp LookiN However, BeiN Cut from a Box still means that they are to be Slabbed "Authentic" ... RiGHT!?

clydepepper 01-29-2015 01:23 PM

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One reason I'll never complete the monster:

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frankbmd 01-29-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1373184)
Do we know what Adrian looks like?

You haven't got a mirror? :eek:

the 'stache 01-29-2015 02:21 PM

I've got to say the 1938 Goudey Joe DiMaggio looks silly to me.

I love Goudey. I love Joe DiMaggio. I love cartoons. But a Goudey Joe DiMaggio cartoon is just ridiculous.

http://imageshack.com/a/img673/5034/RMb2p6.png

I can't help but think of Chris Farley on Saturday Night Live, "fat guy in a little coat", only it's "fat head on a little body". Goudey started so well, and I know they had some big time budget concerns in later years. But they could have done better than this. And what's with the little phrases, "considered one of the best outfielders of all-time, rated a niche in the Hall of Fame from his first season". Really? He'd played two years by the time this card was printed. They were phenomenal years, yes, but Hall of Fame, and "all-time great" talk after 300 games?

Just another reason why this card is stupid, and decidedly overrated. This would be one of the very last of his cards I would ever add to my collection, and only if I needed it to complete a run of some sorts.

yankees23 01-29-2015 04:40 PM

1948 Leaf Ruth for the same reason as the 1940 Play Ball Jackson. Not a fan of cards post career.

quinnsryche 01-29-2015 05:02 PM

Slightly off topic, I wonder what collectors (back then) thought of Jackson's inclusion in the 1940 PB set? Was it "oh, that's cool", "who?" or "cheatin bum, why's this guy in my cards?" Definitely over-rated but any of the T206 printing variations would be at the top of my list.

Orioles1954 01-29-2015 05:04 PM

Toleteros Josh Gibson

ullmandds 01-29-2015 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 1373284)
One reason I'll never complete the monster:

Attachment 177130

Please explain.

Sean 01-29-2015 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1373391)
Please explain.

Maybe he means that that card is so ugly that he'll never buy one. :D

ValKehl 01-29-2015 08:40 PM

Any T206 scrap! (Hi Johnny V.) :D

jasonc 01-30-2015 02:02 AM

Another vote for the T206 Titus.

itjclarke 01-30-2015 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by arcadekrazy (Post 1373127)
Obak card of "Ten Million". Family convinced his mother and father to name him ten, as a nice play on their surname (million) so that his name would stand out.

See pic (not my pic or my card) and this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Million

Hey, that's my card!;).

I really like the Ten Million, and felt compelled to get one after seeking out the Obak building in Portland (using Mark McRae's directions, and following a nice lesson on PCL/NWL, etc). In addition to the cool name, I think it's a very nice looking card and like so many other T212s, has some funky cool background colors. I guess I agree with the others that it's value is probably a bit inflated, but for my sake I hope it stays there!

.. As far as over hyped, chalk up another vote for Titus... And 100% agree on post career cards like the PB Jackson. I'll add another to that list- 1932 US Caramel Ty Cobb.

Tao_Moko 01-30-2015 04:43 AM

Doyle Nat'l

At least Magie is a true error and not just a printing issue.

arcadekrazy 01-30-2015 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by itjclarke (Post 1373517)
Hey, that's my card!;).

I really like the Ten Million, and felt compelled to get one after seeking out the Obak building in Portland (using Mark McRae's directions, and following a nice lesson on PCL/NWL, etc). In addition to the cool name, I think it's a very nice looking card and like so many other T212s, has some funky cool background colors. I guess I agree with the others that it's value is probably a bit inflated, but for my sake I hope it stays there!

I agree with you - cool name, and a handsome looking card. The rich, deep red background is quite appealing.

Econteachert205 01-30-2015 06:12 AM

90 topps Frank Thomas NNOF. Ill take a mid grade cobb instead thank you very much.

ls7plus 01-30-2015 05:37 PM

'33-34 Goudey Lajoie--it really only has a tradition of mystique going for it. It's not a card issued contemporaneously with his playing days, but instead long after those were over, and its simply not all that rare (last time I checked, PSA had graded 80-some).

Best wishes,

Larry

mrvster 01-30-2015 09:29 PM

Val.....
 
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That was Great!:D

+ 1 on titus.....

here's a scrap titus going out to Val;)

nolemmings 01-30-2015 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ls7plus (Post 1373809)
'33-34 Goudey Lajoie--it really only has a tradition of mystique going for it. It's not a card issued contemporaneously with his playing days, but instead long after those were over, and its simply not all that rare (last time I checked, PSA had graded 80-some).

Best wishes,

Larry

+1


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