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CBishop 12-13-2014 07:38 PM

1887 AG Spalding and Billy Sunday
 
Hi,

I am completing a book about Billy Sunday who played for the Chicago White Stockings from 1883-1887. We are attempting to colorize a black and white photo for the cover. I am looking for a Spalding baseball guide for 1887 that might have clues to the colors of the original uniform. A reprint will do. Anyone else have anything that could help. Thank you. CB

vintagesportscollector 12-13-2014 07:51 PM

Did Spalding guides back then have color images? Not sure. You can try this site.

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collecti...ing/index.html

Earliest version is 1889 which would contain images from the 1888 teams.

Dto7 12-13-2014 09:26 PM

1887 Chicago White Stocking

http://www.loc.gov/item/2007680755/

CBishop 12-14-2014 02:25 PM

Hi,

Thanks for sending this picture of Ned Williamson. Do you know who made this card? I am looking it in a Vintage Card Catalog book and can't find anything under D. Buchner and Company.

vintagesportscollector 12-14-2014 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBishop (Post 1354706)
Hi,

Thanks for sending this picture of Ned Williamson. Do you know who made this card? I am looking it in a Vintage Card Catalog book and can't find anything under D. Buchner and Company.

Here are a couple links about this tobacco card set to help you:

http://www.deanscards.com/c/3197/188...Gold-Coin-N284

http://www.cycleback.com/1800s/tobacco2.htm. (Scroll down on this page)

http://www.oldcardboard.com/n/n284/n...?cardsetID=661

slidekellyslide 12-14-2014 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBishop (Post 1354706)
Hi,

Thanks for sending this picture of Ned Williamson. Do you know who made this card? I am looking it in a Vintage Card Catalog book and can't find anything under D. Buchner and Company.

They were a tobacco company based in New York city. The name of the card set you are looking for is N284 Buchner Gold Coin.

vintagesportscollector 12-14-2014 06:40 PM

;). Dan, I beat you by 5 seconds. Lol.

slidekellyslide 12-15-2014 02:37 PM

And we both answered at the same time when 4 hours had passed and not a single Net54er had responded to what for most of us is an easy question. :)

CBishop 12-15-2014 03:35 PM

Thanks guys
 
Thanks for your help. I am not familiar with the sports card industry. I am learning.

CBishop 12-15-2014 04:43 PM

Hi,

It looks to me the Spalding Guides started in 1878.

Dto7 12-15-2014 05:01 PM

Baseball Guides Online

http://www.seanlahman.com/2014/08/in...seball-guides/

vintagesportscollector 12-15-2014 05:33 PM

Nice link Don. I hadn't seen this consolidated reference site before.

bmarlowe1 12-15-2014 11:21 PM

You can also go to:

http://www.threadsofourgame.com/

Craig.B.r.own the proprietor of the site is an excellent researcher and has some of the best info on 19thC uniform colors.

jbsports33 12-18-2014 03:31 PM

have you looked for any postcards - I have seen some Billy Sunday postcards in uniform in the past, they may have been later issues

Jimmy

CBishop 12-30-2014 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbsports33 (Post 1356395)
have you looked for any postcards - I have seen some Billy Sunday postcards in uniform in the past, they may have been later issues

Jimmy

Hi Jimmy,

I listed the starting lineup for the White Stockings of 1887 and found the Buchner Gold Coin card for each one of them. Each card had a white hat, blue uniform and brown shoes. How much would I depend on that I am not sure. It is definitely interesting and worth looking into. What do you think?

Thanks Jimmy,

Craig

CBishop 12-30-2014 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbsports33 (Post 1356395)
have you looked for any postcards - I have seen some Billy Sunday postcards in uniform in the past, they may have been later issues

Jimmy

Jimmy,

Just to be clear. I am doing this to identify the original color of the uniform for a picture on the cover of the book. We want to turn a black and white photo into color.

Craig


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