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Lorewalker 03-23-2024 11:07 PM

Inside the Grading Room At PSA
 
Saw this on BO, this evening. First time seeing PSA show inside the grading room. Interestingly it is the grading room in NJ, not CA and it does involve modern cards but it is at least a look inside.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrQlqeebvJA

ullmandds 03-24-2024 04:38 AM

So they rub a shammy on all new cards they grade?

irv 03-24-2024 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 2421832)
So they rub a shammy on all new cards they grade?

I assume to wipe off the graders finger prints, but it surprised me the grader wasn't wearing thin white gloves to begin with?

conor912 03-24-2024 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irv (Post 2421873)
I assume to wipe off the graders finger prints, but it surprised me the grader wasn't wearing thin white gloves to begin with?

I don't know about you, but I tend to lose a lot of fine tactile function even with thin gloves on. I trust my bare hands way more.

irv 03-24-2024 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conor912 (Post 2421885)
I don't know about you, but I tend to lose a lot of fine tactile function even with thin gloves on. I trust my bare hands way more.

I prefer not to wear gloves myself but I just assumed all/most graders did when handling other peoples cards? Seeing the shammy come out all I could think of was it possibly grabbing a corner of the card and possibly bending/damaging it?

Like, Ullmandds, I didn't know that was a thing?

brianp-beme 03-24-2024 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irv (Post 2421891)
I prefer not to wear gloves myself but I just assumed all/most graders did when handling other peoples cards? Seeing the shammy come out all I could think of was it possibly grabbing a corner of the card and possibly bending/damaging it?

Like, Ullmandds, I didn't know that was a thing?


They previously used panty hose, but then that woman got fired.


Brian

Lorewalker 03-24-2024 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irv (Post 2421891)
I prefer not to wear gloves myself but I just assumed all/most graders did when handling other peoples cards? Seeing the shammy come out all I could think of was it possibly grabbing a corner of the card and possibly bending/damaging it?

Like, Ullmandds, I didn't know that was a thing?

It is a thing on shiny cards. Got no problem with it and no need to disclose :D If I were submitting that stuff, first it would imply I know a thing or two about the cards, but I would want them using a shammy. Those cards are too slippery to use cloth gloves, imo.

I was actually surprised that Nat showed a grader, identified the grader and let us into the grading room. Other than the early days of the company, the whole operation has been top secret.

A few years ago we were provided a video allowing us to see behind the scenes at SGC and boy that was more like a behind the behind the scenes. We got to see the sealing room, the lobby, where they keep their supplies, where the trash is kept and the company break room. Riveting stuff!

Snowman 03-24-2024 03:22 PM

My favorite part of the video was when Nat pulled out a card and said, "This one is a PSA 10, which means it has perfect centering, perfect corners, everything is perfect."

Shoeless Moe 03-24-2024 03:42 PM

That's not PSA, this is....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFWTXU2jE14

Lorewalker 03-24-2024 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman (Post 2421961)
My favorite part of the video was when Nat pulled out a card and said, "This one is a PSA 10, which means it has perfect centering, perfect corners, everything is perfect."

If Nat says his card is a 10...it is a 10. David Hall, allegedly, used to put post it notes on the card savers with the grade he was expecting.

Not much different across the street at SGC other than they may not have to use post it notes.

As the youtube video above this...this is nothing but monkey business. Why any of us buy into it is beyond me.

vthobby 03-24-2024 05:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 2421969)

Actual footage.

That was funny!

:)

vthobby 03-24-2024 05:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman (Post 2421961)
My favorite part of the video was when Nat pulled out a card and said, "This one is a PSA 10, which means it has perfect centering, perfect corners, everything is perfect."

What's even funnier is that card was centered to the left slightly. Even a monkey could see that.

He's such an authority!

:D:cool:

vthobby 03-24-2024 05:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorewalker (Post 2421950)
It is a thing on shiny cards. Got no problem with it and no need to disclose :D If I were submitting that stuff, first it would imply I know a thing or two about the cards, but I would want them using a shammy. Those cards are too slippery to use cloth gloves, imo.

I was actually surprised that Nat showed a grader, identified the grader and let us into the grading room. Other than the early days of the company, the whole operation has been top secret.

A few years ago we were provided a video allowing us to see behind the scenes at SGC and boy that was more like a behind the behind the scenes. We got to see the sealing room, the lobby, where they keep their supplies, where the trash is kept and the company break room. Riveting stuff!

Yeah that grading station was high tech huh?

Looked like a dorm room computer desk. Was just missing the hot dog and mustard but I'm sure that was eaten off screen!

:eek::D

Lorewalker 03-24-2024 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vthobby (Post 2422001)
Yeah that grading station was high tech huh?

Looked like a dorm room computer desk. Was just missing the hot dog and mustard but I'm sure that was eaten off screen!

:eek::D

Grading is not high tech. :confused: Just need to have the skills and experience to id a problem and be able to tell the difference between a 7 and an 8. Snowman actually spoke to this at length.

vthobby 03-24-2024 05:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorewalker (Post 2422003)
Grading is not high tech. :confused: Just need to have the skills and experience to id a problem and be able to tell the difference between a 7 and an 8. Snowman actually spoke to this at length.

I'm well aware what is lacking out there and you hit on all of them!

lol

PS We got a lot of snow yesterday. Does that make me an expert or should I speak at length about it?

Flintboy 03-24-2024 06:54 PM

Comical that the comments are turned off on the YouTube feed.

Lorewalker 03-24-2024 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vthobby (Post 2422011)
I'm well aware what is lacking out there and you hit on all of them!

lol

PS We got a lot of snow yesterday. Does that make me an expert or should I speak at length about it?

I am not a fanboi of PSA's by any stretch but not sure there is gonna be anyone more devastated than you if Nat retires the brand. I won't be too far behind you but I will survive.

Anyway just not sure why you would make a comment about their lacking technology when technology has very little to do with grading...so far...except at TAG. So was it just to stir up shit or is there another reason that I am failing to see?

sycks22 03-24-2024 07:48 PM

I bet they just get bored giving all the modern stuff 10's. At lunch they'll say "it feels like a 8.5 type of day."

Zach Wheat 03-25-2024 06:32 AM

Interesting to note they indicate they have pictures of every card graded and compare each card to "millions" of other cards for comparison

philliesfan 03-25-2024 08:03 AM

I certainly see a 10 in that video!

Leon 03-25-2024 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorewalker (Post 2421973)
If Nat says his card is a 10...it is a 10. David Hall, allegedly, used to put post it notes on the card savers with the grade he was expecting.

Not much different across the street at SGC other than they may not have to use post it notes.

As the youtube video above this...this is nothing but monkey business. Why any of us buy into it is beyond me.

Money.



.

1880nonsports 03-25-2024 08:59 AM

my interest piqued
 
at the mention of an SGC behind the scenes video. CAN ANYONE PROVIDE ME A LINK??? I would greatly appreciate it.

1880nonsports 03-25-2024 09:11 AM

hmmmm
 
modern cards - so many 9's and 10's. Not a lot of room for differentiation.....I suppose the focus then shifts to the "one of X" principle and the next best measure of greatness then would be in the quantity owned? I'm a 19th century guy.

Lorewalker 03-25-2024 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports (Post 2422139)
at the mention of an SGC behind the scenes video. CAN ANYONE PROVIDE ME A LINK??? I would greatly appreciate it.

Sadly it is a Geoff Wilson "production".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YNOs6Xu80w

Jeremy102175 03-25-2024 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conor912 (Post 2421885)
I don't know about you, but I tend to lose a lot of fine tactile function even with thin gloves on. I trust my bare hands way more.

Exactly. I work at a museum and we generally don't wear gloves for that exact reason when handling artifacts.

1880nonsports 03-25-2024 02:50 PM

Lorewalker
 
Thanks you so much for that! That was a teat er um treat for me (I left the original typo - I'm a bit weird obviously).

steve B 03-27-2024 06:59 AM

They left out the most important part.

https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=14573


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