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camaro69 06-29-2016 04:06 PM

Did the person know what he was talking about
 
I recently picked up a couple pages of pictures.No big deal.As I am sure that they are very plentiful.But the person that sold these too me suggested that they were the actual proofs(plates) that were used to do the magazines that the pictures were used in.I am pretty sure that would be to good to be true but I thought I would ask here and see if some of the very knowledgeable collectors could say I was mis-lead or on the outside chance that I may have bought a very cool item.Please take note of the word "plate" in the upper corner.Thanks.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...%20plate-1.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...%20plate-2.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ey%20plate.jpg

JMEnglish27 06-29-2016 04:23 PM

What type of material are these on, just regular paper?

If anything I'd be leaning toward a proof, from a printing industry background standpoint. Not sure if that adds much of a premium to the value though.

camaro69 06-29-2016 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bigj7489 (Post 1556289)
What type of material are these on, just regular paper?

If anything I'd be leaning toward a proof, from a printing industry background standpoint. Not sure if that adds much of a premium to the value though.

The paper is much heavier than what I would think would have been used to make the magazines. But I have never seen the publication that these would have been used in.So I may be 100% wrong about that.

irv 06-29-2016 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro69 (Post 1556283)
I recently picked up a couple pages of pictures.No big deal.As I am sure that they are very plentiful.But the person that sold these too me suggested that they were the actual proofs(plates) that were used to do the magazines that the pictures were used in.I am pretty sure that would be to good to be true but I thought I would ask here and see if some of the very knowledgeable collectors could say I was mis-lead or on the outside chance that I may have bought a very cool item.Please take note of the word "plate" in the upper corner.Thanks.



http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ey%20plate.jpg

I don't know with a 100% certainty, but I'd guess some of those hockey pictures were used in the early 30's (series-1's) Beehives?

Whether they are real plates or not, they are still cool pieces to own. :)

camaro69 06-29-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 1556301)
I don't know with a 100% certainty, but I'd guess some of those hockey pictures were used in the early 30's (series-1's) Beehives?

Whether they are real plates or not, they are still cool pieces to own. :)

Good evening Dale.Nice to see you around.I think these may be even on heavier paper than the Bee Hives.I have had lots of those Bee Hives and the the paper stock always seemed light to me.I am not even sure what years these may be from.I am thinking maybe in the 60's and someone was doing a how too book /magazine on the different sports.But they could be much older. What do you think. I might post a old baseball item that I have.Not really all that valuable but certainly a neat item. Keep an eye open for it.

irv 06-29-2016 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro69 (Post 1556302)
Good evening Dale.Nice to see you around.I think these may be even on heavier paper than the Bee Hives.I have had lots of those Bee Hives and the the paper stock always seemed light to me.I am not even sure what years these may be from.I am thinking maybe in the 60's and someone was doing a how too book /magazine on the different sports.But they could be much older. What do you think. I might post a old baseball item that I have.Not really all that valuable but certainly a neat item. Keep an eye open for it.

I will keep an eye out, Winston. Thanks for sharing the info! :)

camaro69 06-29-2016 05:47 PM

Dale,here is a kind of a neat item.I bought this a while back.I have a lot of the singles that have been separated.But only one complete strip.Great lineup on this strip.I do have a Babe Ruth single.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...1950-R-423.jpg

bgar3 06-29-2016 06:00 PM

Plate
 
I do not know what these are, but I do not think you can draw any conclusions based upon use of the word PLATE. This was was commonly used in books for illustrative pages. Good luck.

D. Bergin 06-29-2016 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bgar3 (Post 1556323)
I do not know what these are, but I do not think you can draw any conclusions based upon use of the word PLATE. This was was commonly used in books for illustrative pages. Good luck.


Yup, this. Most likely book plates.

Gary Dunaier 06-29-2016 10:06 PM

I agree with bgar3 and D. Bergin. Back in the day, photos were usually printed in their own section in the middle of books, on better paper, and the pages were sometimes referred to as "plates."

I am not an expert but I know enough to categorically say that what you have are not printing plates.

Butch7999 06-29-2016 10:45 PM

Agree with the previous three posts. Also, a note on dating the source -- the book they're taken from is no older than a 1927 publication.
The shot of Meusel (Plate II, pic 3) is from the 1926 Series, and the last player shown in the hockey plate is wearing a New York Rangers uniform.
Rangers didn't begin play until the 1926-27 season, which opened in mid-November.

camaro69 06-30-2016 02:34 AM

Thanks a lot to everyone for all the great information.:)

Duluth Eskimo 06-30-2016 09:40 AM

I don't know what they are, but I think they are cool. The Ruth and the hockey players are outstanding. The clarity looks really good too. They would look nice framed up even if they aren't worth a ton.

irv 07-01-2016 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro69 (Post 1556319)
Dale,here is a kind of a neat item.I bought this a while back.I have a lot of the singles that have been separated.But only one complete strip.Great lineup on this strip.I do have a Babe Ruth single.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...1950-R-423.jpg

That is a great piece, Winston, and like your original post, would also be pretty cool to own. :)


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