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rand1com 11-02-2023 03:13 PM

Boston Sports Collector’s Show This Weekend
 
Boston Show This Weekend - Shriner’s Auditorium Wilmington, MA

Friday 12:00 - 7:00
Saturday 8:00 - 5:00
Sunday 9:00 - 3:00

Tables 63 & 64

Mostly photos, autographs, some post war graded, a few graded tobacco, a lot of interesting one of a kind pieces.

Stop by and say hello.

Randy Hartsoe

Brownie33 11-02-2023 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rand1com (Post 2385528)
Boston Show This Weekend - Shriner’s Auditorium Wilmington, MA

Friday 12:00 - 7:00
Saturday 8:00 - 5:00
Sunday 9:00 - 3:00

Tables 63 & 64

Mostly photos, autographs, some post war graded, a few graded tobacco, a lot of interesting one of a kind pieces.

Stop by and say hello.

Randy Hartsoe

I’ll be there on Saturday! I’ll definitely stop by. Super excited for the show. It’s my absolute favorite.

edhans 11-03-2023 07:25 AM

Ed Hans and Tom Boblitt are at tables 155 and 156, in the back near the snack bar. Stop by and say hello.

brunswickreeves 11-03-2023 05:36 PM

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GBSCC show at Shriners Auditorium in Wilmington Mass was amazing and well worth it. Lots of modern and equally quality vintage pre and post war, as well as memorabilia, much at respectable prices IMHO. Many choices of playing days Wagner, Ruth, Cobb, Mathewson, Johnson, Mays, Jackie, tons of T206, around a dozen 52 Topps Mick, all the greats! Can walk the floor in about 2-3 hours and then deep dive chat and make deals with very friendly sellers.

bcbgcbrcb 11-03-2023 05:41 PM

Kind of looks like the last Philly and next to last Chantilly shows that I attended. For those that have been to all three, was it pretty much the same w/same dealers? Anything/anyone amazing that was not at those other two shows? I’m sure if you looked hard enough, you could find a vintage card there at someone’s table that was valued under $1K. Must have just been these four pics that make it appear like there wasn’t a one.

I hear that Strongsville might be better than any of those. Is that correct?

jayshum 11-03-2023 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by brunswickreeves (Post 2385813)
GBSCC show at Shriners Auditorium in Wilmington Mass was amazing and well worth it. Lots of modern and equally quality vintage pre and post war, as well as memorabilia, much at respectable prices IMHO. Many choices of playing days Wagner, Ruth, Cobb, Mathewson, Johnson, Mays, Jackie, tons of T206, around a dozen 52 Topps Mick, all the greats! Can walk the floor in about 2-3 hours and then deep dive chat and make deals with very friendly sellers.

From the prices on the 52 Mantles, it looks like that dealer hasn't read the thread on prices of them coming down.

Kutcher55 11-03-2023 06:32 PM

Was there for 3 hours this afternoon. Yeah it’s not the National but it’s the best show we get in the greater Boston area every year. Lots of great stuff out there. Overall some dealers are adjusting their prices in what feels like a soft market. Others are still crazy high and out of touch with reality. One thing I heard from a local dealer is that they are charging more than ever for a table.

Also worth noting they increased the admission price from $10 to $15. That has to have at least some impact on the turnout.

Anyhoo it was a blast to be there. 3 hours isn’t enough. Wish I could go back but family obligations are not permitting. One other thing is that I wish it was a rule for dealers to list their prices on most of their merchandise. And none of this “take 50% off the price tag” nonsense. Hey pal 50% off those prices is still a massive ripoff.

Kutcher55 11-03-2023 06:34 PM

One other thing — the snack bar at this pace is really solid. Decent food and the women running the kitchen and register are always very friendly and welcoming.

hcv123 11-03-2023 07:12 PM

I'm here!
 
Booth #34 against the stage in the back of the room. Tons of fresh to market vintage - all 4 sports + sports - raw and graded.


Regarding the question about this show being similar to Philly or Chantilly, while some of the larger regional/national dealers and auction houses are at all 3 sows, there are a large number of table holders at this show that I do not see at either of the aforementioned shows.

scooter729 11-03-2023 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by edhans (Post 2385636)
Ed Hans and Tom Boblitt are at tables 155 and 156, in the back near the snack bar. Stop by and say hello.

Hey Ed - nice to meet both you and Tom today, albeit briefly!
Scott

Vintagecatcher 11-04-2023 03:28 AM

Increase in Auction Houses present
 
Went to the show for 2.5 hours yesterday. One of the longest lines to get in that I have ever seen, but it vanished as soon as the doors opened.

My first impression was that there was a significant decrease in prewar vintage dealers and a huge increase in Auction Houses present.

If table prices have jumped that might explan the big drop in vintage but it's a trend that has been going on for years. No shortage of new shiny dealers. Also noticed some of the larger dealers who had vintage seemed to have less than previous years.

Enjoyed chatting with Ed and finally meeting Tom in person for the first time.

Patrick

parkplace33 11-04-2023 06:28 AM

This is a big autograph show as well correct? How are the lines for the autographs?

soxinseven 11-04-2023 07:13 AM

John Liffmann and I are set up at our usual spot, tables 113/115. Stop by and say hello.

Belfast1933 11-04-2023 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kutcher55 (Post 2385820)
Was there for 3 hours this afternoon. Yeah it’s not the National but it’s the best show we get in the greater Boston area every year. Lots of great stuff out there. Overall some dealers are adjusting their prices in what feels like a soft market. Others are still crazy high and out of touch with reality. One thing I heard from a local dealer is that they are charging more than ever for a table.

Also worth noting they increased the admission price from $10 to $15. That has to have at least some impact on the turnout.

Anyhoo it was a blast to be there. 3 hours isn’t enough. Wish I could go back but family obligations are not permitting. One other thing is that I wish it was a rule for dealers to list their prices on most of their merchandise. And none of this “take 50% off the price tag” nonsense. Hey pal 50% off those prices is still a massive ripoff.



I thought the same thing yesterday! I wouldn't prohibit it but after a quick glance at his sticker prices, I just walked on by...

Republicaninmass 11-04-2023 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2385815)
From the prices on the 52 Mantles, it looks like that dealer hasn't read the thread on prices of them coming down.

Must be frantic sales at those levels, since you just ask more for them next week!

Dealers similar to him are buying up many Aaron's and mantles hoping prices increase. I saw about 30 different 1954 Aaron's posted.

Also, the unpriced table pic must be memory lane. Don't even ask prices signed gehrig et al

Johnny630 11-04-2023 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass (Post 2385930)
Must be frantic sales at those levels, since you just ask more for them next week!

Dealers similar to him are buying up many Aaron's and mantles hoping prices increase. I saw about 30 different 1954 Aaron's posted.

Also, the unpriced table pic must be memory lane. Don't even ask prices signed gehrig et al

Was thinking the same thing....that 53 Mantle SGC 7 in that dealers showcase was just purchased in PWCC two weeks ago for 21k as high bid...if Seller was high bidder why does he think someone is willing to now pay 30k for idk.

I’m thinking many dealers with still super high prices put themselves in great financial position during the pandemic with sales that they don’t care if they sell now or not. They’re gonna get their number or hold, made enough over the past 3 years to hold them over in this downturn.

Kutcher55 11-05-2023 04:11 AM

Managed to bulk up some of my Red Sox needs at this show. Obviously not a great location to find cheap Sox cards, but some decent deals to be had. A few shout outs. James Ryan / JP Sports Collectables. This is a real solid outfit and usually my first stop when I go to Wilmington. They are paradise for set collectors. Best selection and prices hands down and the two guys running it are both cool and down to earth. I always find a few topps minis to upgrade with these guys and on this trip I even picked off a 51 Topps Red Dom DiMaggio, first 51 topps I ever owned (and prolly the last lol).

From there, I grabbed a nicely centered 53 Topps Roy Campanella SGC 1 for a real fair price from National Card Investors. They had a bunch of vintage slabs next to Ted Woo who also has great merch. Both of these guys are around the market with their pricing. Anyway I dumped my Campy 6 and bought this 1 for less than 20% of the price and it’s better centered, crazy nice for a 1.

I grabbed a few 60s Sox items, a 52 bowman Sox common and then got a random 34-36 Goudey Sox common that I probably overpaid a bit for but the dealer was great and he had a lot of relatively obscure pre war stuff so I was able to get a Sox representative in some odd ball set.

I almost made a deal for a SGC 5 ‘55 Topps Jackie but we were off on negotiations by $50. No regrets at all about holding my ground. This card is far from scarce and I’ll have many opportunities to find one with that rich color that is so important to the eye appeal of this great card. It was a civil exchange anyhow.

Last purchase was sort of an impulse buy. A 1939 Playball Doc Cramer autographed and PSA authenticated. Not an autograph collector but it was a chance to add a new wrinkle for my Sox collection. Cramer’s autograph is fabulous and I strongly prefer autographed cards without a facsimile auto to begin with and this card checks all the boxes. Btw Cramer had 2,705 hits in his long decent career.

Kutcher55 11-05-2023 04:31 AM

Some pics.

https://i.imgur.com/MoHDCgy.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2DRG6hp.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/EXx0V6T.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jzGzhZ5.jpg

BabyRuth 11-05-2023 07:15 AM

I have been going to this show for nearly 30 years, and this was the least crowded I have ever seen it (Saturday morning). The downturn in the economy is definitely hitting. Prices were in the stratosphere for the most part. Usually the lines would be 5 deep just to get up to see a table, yesterday morning I strolled around the show with my son with barely anyone blocking my table views. In the past there would be lines for SGC drop off submissions. I just walked up and sat down at 1 of the empty stations and did my submission. The big draw on Saturday was autograph guest Julian Edelman. If he wasn't there, I wonder how small the crowd would have been. I've been taking my son to the show since he was 3 (2002) and we always have a great time.

Fred 11-05-2023 07:28 AM

See the top picture in post 4. Add up the $$ for the cards at the very top row of the picture. It's over a quarter million dollars.

Add up the $$ for all the cards in the picture, it's over half a million dollars.

Does anybody bring this type of cash to shows?

Let's make a deal...

brunswickreeves 11-05-2023 07:48 AM

There were definitely some big deals going down day 1. I observed a $36K exchange for a 52 Topps Mick upgrade. If you do your research, go with a plan, have laser focus, and create win-wins you can make it an amazing experience and outcome.

GrayGhost 11-05-2023 08:00 AM

I was supposed to go up today, but the car rental fell through, due to enterprises BS ID policy. Still PO'd

topcat61 11-06-2023 12:44 PM

I was there all three days and had a really fun show. On Friday that line to get in the door was insane! Met a lot of great collectors and dealers this weekend and was able to knock out a number of bucket list cards - 1965 Topps Roberto Clemente, Pete Rose and Sandy Koufax and a 1951 Topps Yogi Berra. One thing that annoyed me was the lighting and that guy (whoever he was) kept eating the microphone on the PA) but the show was fun and a ton of vintage - you still had to look around and haggle for prices. Honestly though I was so immersed in scoping out cards that a UFO could have landed right next to me and I wouldn't have known. Great show hope to see everyone next year!

parkplace33 11-07-2023 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyRuth (Post 2386185)
I have been going to this show for nearly 30 years, and this was the least crowded I have ever seen it (Saturday morning). The downturn in the economy is definitely hitting. Prices were in the stratosphere for the most part. Usually the lines would be 5 deep just to get up to see a table, yesterday morning I strolled around the show with my son with barely anyone blocking my table views. In the past there would be lines for SGC drop off submissions. I just walked up and sat down at 1 of the empty stations and did my submission. The big draw on Saturday was autograph guest Julian Edelman. If he wasn't there, I wonder how small the crowd would have been. I've been taking my son to the show since he was 3 (2002) and we always have a great time.

I read the same thing from two patrons about how the crowds were very thin at the show.

It will be interesting to see how things are at the next big shows before the end of the year.

bcbgcbrcb 11-07-2023 04:32 PM

That seems to be the trend at least over the last 30, 60 days pretty much all over the country. I have heard the same thing about the last Dallas show, last Chantilly show, last Jacksonville show down here in FL and this Shriner’s show. However, except for Jacksonville, these are all still major shows with thousands of attendees at each over the weekends so dealers still getting plenty of opportunities to make sales/money.

NATCARD 11-07-2023 05:30 PM

Shriners GBSCC
 
I have been set up at this show for years, 252-254 are my tables (National Card Investors). I first want to thank Kutcher55 for the shout out on the Campy 1. My tables were very busy and I had a tremendous show. If you set up and price your merch correctly you will sell it. This is not a museum, it is a card show. I want to thank the numerous collecors for their purchases. There were many new customers. The hobby may be softening and prices correcting slightly but people are still spending their money on cards and memorabilia.

Donscards 11-07-2023 06:05 PM

Boston Show
 
I usually don't comment on shows, but I will on the Shriners Show--Yes, the foot traffic was down--but not bad--Collectors and Dealers are slower to pull the trigger--Something funny happened on this show (a 3 day show) Sunday was my best day in years--Usually always the slowest day--I have done the Shriners show from its inception--I think around 1987--I believe there are 5 of us left from the 1st show (Yes, I am old)--I thought I would not hit my goal for the show but Sunday put me well over I sold a PC796 Cobb/Wagner --Goudey Ruth--Babe Ruth Check-Gehrig Exhibit--41 Playball DiMaggio and cards from the 50's and 60's---My T206 cards were slow as where my T3's and CJ's which are pricey and more geared for the National. But overall I was pleased with the show. Always Great to see Friends and Dealers. Still a Wonderful Hobby (Business)--See you at the next show. Don

brunswickreeves 11-07-2023 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Donscards (Post 2386934)
I usually don't comment on shows, but I will on the Shriners Show--Yes, the foot traffic was down--but not bad--Collectors and Dealers are slower to pull the trigger--Something funny happened on this show (a 3 day show) Sunday was my best day in years--Usually always the slowest day--I have done the Shriners show from its inception--I think around 1987--I believe there are 5 of us left from the 1st show (Yes, I am old)--I thought I would not hit my goal for the show but Sunday put me well over I sold a PC796 Cobb/Wagner --Goudey Ruth--Babe Ruth Check-Gehrig Exhibit--41 Playball DiMaggio and cards from the 50's and 60's---My T206 cards were slow as where my T3's and CJ's which are pricey and more geared for the National. But overall I was pleased with the show. Always Great to see Friends and Dealers. Still a Wonderful Hobby (Business)--See you at the next show. Don

Don-it was great to meet you in person after frequenting your namesake card shop in Portland decades ago. I’m thrilled you did great at the show, you had some wonderful pieces. It was my 1st time attending and I got a lot out of it (the chicken in the GF wrap was delicious a close 2nd to trading up for a dream card :) ).

edhans 11-08-2023 06:35 AM

Re: Boston Sports Collector’s Show This Weekend
 
The GBSCC show is one of my favorites. As others have observed, the foot traffic may have been a little light compared to prior years. Sales were good; not great. It was a pleasure to have Tom with me and getting to meet new folks and reconnect with old friends.

The food is hands down the best at any show I've ever attended.

Best part for me is getting to spend some time with my grandsons in Framingham.


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