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Archive 09-08-2007 03:11 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>As rare as the T206 Joe Doyle NAT'L card is.....there are 11 other Subjects in the T206 issue that are just as rare.<br /><br />So, what do these 11 very rare T206's have in common with the Joe Doyle error ? They all have PIEDMONT 350 backs.<br /><br />These 150/350 subjects....as 150 cards....are not tough to find (except for Lundgren-Cubs); but, as 350 cards, they<br /> are virtually impossible to find. After years of sampling 1000's of these 11 Subjects, I have found only 1 or 2 cards of <br />each with the PIEDMONT 350 back. And, it is significant to note that none have been found with Sweet Caporal 350<br /> or Sovereign 350 backs.<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/cjoedoylenatl.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br />Is this simply a coincidence that these 12 cards are extremely rare and exist with PIEDMONT 350 backs ? I do not<br />think so.....my speculation is that the Joe Doyle (NAT'L) and these 11 cards were on the same sheet.....And, that <br />when Quality Control quickly discovered the Joe Doyle error, American Lithograph discarded virtually all of the re-<br />maining sheets. Thereby, also rendering these 11 cards to become ASP (abreviated-short-prints). <br /><br />These 11 cards with PIEDMONT 350 backs should command a substantial premium in the hobby......<br /><br />Conroy (fielding)<br />Dahlen (Boston) <br />Ewing<br />Ganley<br />Tom Jones<br />Karger<br />Lindaman<br />Lundgren (Cubs)<br />Mullin (throwing)<br />Pastorius<br />Schulte (front view)....No PIEDMONT 350 has been confirmed....may be a 150-only card ?<br /><br /><br />Incidently, these 11 are also found with HINDU or El Principe de Gales....but, are seldom seen.<br /><br />Anyhow, if any Net54er's have any of these 11 cards with Piedmont 350....Sovereign 350....Sweet Caporal 350 backs,<br />please respond....your inputs will be greatly appreciated ? <br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/b11t206p350.jpg"><br /><br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-08-2007 05:25 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Drew</b><p>Ted<br />Here are my cousins.<br /><br />Conroy P150 (2)<br />Dahlen Sov 150 SC150 P150<br />Ewing P150 (2)<br />Ganley SC150 P150<br />Jones SC150 P150 Hindu<br />Karger SC150 P150<br />Lindaman SC150 P150<br />Lundgren P150 (2)<br />Mullin P350 EPDG<br />Pastorius SC150 P150<br />Schulte P150 (2)<br /><br><br>Drew

Archive 09-08-2007 07:10 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Mike (18colt)</b><p>Only 150s for me.<br /><br />Notable, though, is that I have a Dahlen, Boston with a Hindu back. Any idea how "rarely" seen this card is with this back?<br /><br />Mike (18colt)

Archive 09-08-2007 07:35 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks for your inputs.<br /><br />Brown HINDU backs on these 11 cards are tough....and so are El Principe de Gales backs.<br /><br />However, neither of these backs approach the scarcity of the Piedmont 350 back on these 11 cards. It<br /> took me several years of scanning approximately 2000 cards of these 11 Subjects to find 7 of them with <br />Piedmont 350 backs.<br /><br />I'm still missing....Conroy....Tom Jones....Karger....Schulte<br /><br />And, I am skeptical that Schulte was ever printed with a Piedmont 350 back.<br /><br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-08-2007 11:09 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Ted,<br /><br />Here are a few of mine, I have Ewing and Karger I believe in 350, I’ll look for scans didn’t always scan front and back on them all. But my checklist says I have them, I remember seeing Jones somewhere eBay etc. after an auction ended.<br /><br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/ebay/large/Lindaman2.jpg"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/ebay/large/lindaman.jpg">

Archive 09-09-2007 07:22 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ralph</b><p>Great post & very informative.Thanks Ted for sharing this as it all makes sense.As I said in another post the Doyle Printing dot should be considered part of the doyle boo-boo card & should command a higher value.Does the dot card lower the value of the Doyle error card?That's the question I ask but before I answer I'll need to give it more thought.Just my 2 cents <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 09-09-2007 08:23 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>JOHN W<br /><br />The Tom Jones (Piedmont 350), that I believe you are referring to was on ebay about 1 1/2 years ago and Brian Weisner won it.<br />I have not seen one since.<br /><br />Thanks for showing your Lindy's....I think I have all the possible Lindaman backs.....<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/alindamanb.jpg"><br /><br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-09-2007 06:49 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>RALPH<br /><br />You bring up two very interesting points regarding the Joe Doyle cards (NAT"L and Printer's Mark version).<br /><br />I cannot answer this, as I am just a collector who enjoys these cards, and loves to do research on them, <br />and sometimes will share this research with others.<br /><br /> Some "biggies" in the hobby would be better able to answer your questions regarding the impact on the<br /> $$$$ value of these cards.

Archive 09-09-2007 08:40 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>While you looking for your Ewing and Karger, see if you have a Lundgren (Cubs) with a Piedmont 350 back ?<br />Lundgren is tough enough with it's normal P 150 back....and, extremely rare with a P 350 or an EPDG back.<br /><br />Here's my Lundgren cards......<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/aclundgren.jpg"><br /><br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-09-2007 09:03 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>ockday</b><p>I have Karger with a Piedmont 350 back<br /><br />Alan

Archive 09-10-2007 08:33 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>ALAN (ockday)<br /><br />Thanks for your Karger input.....you really have a very rare T206 card there.<br /><br />I'm hoping to expand my analysis of these T206's (with Piedmont 350 backs) with this Survey. And, this forum is the best platform<br />for doing this, since there are so many advanced and knowledgeable T206 collectors on it.<br /><br />So, how about it....guys and gals....check-out your T206's and see if you have any of these 11 cards with any "350" backs ?<br /><br />Thanks for your time and effort,<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-10-2007 10:02 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Betty</b><p>Ted, Here are my backs of "the cousins"<br /><br />Conroy Fielding P150<br />Dahlen Boston SC150 Fact 30<br />Ewing SC 150 FAct 649 OP<br />Ganley EPDG<br />Tom Jones EPDG<br />Karger SC150 Fact 25<br />Lindaman P150<br />Lundgren-Chi P150<br />Mullin-Throwing P150<br />Pastorius P150<br />Schulte-Fr View P150<br /><br />Betty

Archive 09-11-2007 07:13 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>I have none of these in a 350 currently. I think I remember having a Lindaman a while ago <br /><br />These cards/backs do seem quite rare. <br />

Archive 09-11-2007 01:33 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>BETTY<br /><br />Thanks for your inputs.<br /><br />Ganley and Tom Jones with EPDG backs are great acquistions, as they are not often seen on these cards.<br /><br />Regards,<br />TED Z

Archive 09-11-2007 01:35 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Another factor regarding eight of these 150/350 Subjects having negligible representation in the 350 series, is their transitionary<br /> status in the 1909 season....while the T206 guys were planning which players to include in the 350 Series.<br />I'd be remiss, if I didn't provide this information as possible factors that could have influenced the T206 designers to discontinue<br /> printing these subjects with the assortment of T-brands that are available on all the other cards in this series.<br /><br /><br />Dahlen........playing career ends (1909)....Manager of Brooklyn (1910); and, is a short-print in 350-only Series<br /><br />Ewing.........traded from Cinc. to Phila (NL), Jan 1910<br /><br />Ganley........traded from Wash. to Phila (A's) (May 1909)<br /><br />T Jones.......traded from St Louis (AL) to Detroit (Aug 1909)<br /><br />Karger.........traded from Cinc. to Boston (AL), June 1909<br /><br />Lindaman.....career ends in 1909<br /><br />Lundgren......reassigned to Minor Leagues in 1909<br /><br />Pastorius......career ends in 1909<br /><br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-11-2007 02:45 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Ted,<br /> I just returned from across the pond, so I'll get to the survey when I can. Talk to you soon. Be well Brian<br /><br /><br />PS I know I have most of these with Hindu's....

Archive 09-11-2007 08:13 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I will start with mine and the inputs that have been received......Date 9-10-07<br /><br /><br />Player................Piedmont 350......HINDU........EPDG<br /><br />Conroy (fielding)..............0.............0........... ....0<br /><br />Dahlen (Boston)...............1.............1............ ..0<br /> <br />Ewing............................1..............0 ..............1<br /><br />Ganley...........................1..............0 ..............1<br /><br />T Jones (St Louis)............0..............1..............1< br /><br />Karger............................1.............. 0..............0<br /><br />Lindaman........................2..............2. .............1<br /><br />Lundgren (Cubs)..............1..............0.............. 1<br /><br />Mullin (throw)..................1..............0......... .....1<br /><br />Pastorius........................1..............0 ..............0<br /><br />Schulte (front)................0..............0........... ...0<br /><br /><br />Totals............................9.............. .4.............6<br /><br /><br /><br />OK, guys and gals we have us another Survey....flip over these 11 T206's in your set and tell me their T-brand ?<br /><br />Thanks for your time and effort,<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-11-2007 10:46 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Iggy</b><p>I glanced at the old binder and I have one, a Lindaman Piedmont 350. A lower grade example which I possibly would have upgraded at some point, but for some strange reason it now seems really nice. Out of the 11 cards you mentioned I have nine (seven of them Piedmont 150's, one Sweet Caporal 150, and the above mentioned Piedmont 350). Hope that helps! <br /><br />-Lovely Day, Iggy...

Archive 09-12-2007 12:29 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Elliot</b><p>Ted, I have Dahlen (Bost) and Ganley with a Piedmont 350 back. Great research that you are doing.<br><br>

Archive 09-12-2007 07:23 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Doug Moore</b><p>Ted:<br />I love these discussions, I've learned a great deal about my T206 set.<br />I have a Karger with a EPDG back.

Archive 09-12-2007 02:02 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Ted,<br /> I have the following to add to the list:<br /><br />Hindu's:<br />Conroy<br />Dahlen<br />Ewing<br />Ganley<br />T Jones <br />Lindaman<br />Pastorius<br /><br /><br />Piedmont 350's:<br />T Jones<br />Lundgren<br /><br /><br />Nice thread... Hopefully I will add more when I have a chance to look this weekend. Be well Brian<br /> <br /><br />

Archive 09-12-2007 02:48 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks.....BRIAN W.....DOUG.....ELLIOT.....IGGY for all your inputs. They will be tallied in the Updated Survey today.<br /><br />Also, there is a changing of the "guard" on two of these Piedmont 350 "cousins"....as new inputs have dictated this.<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-12-2007 02:53 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Very interesting inputs posted here and one forum member has emailed me with some very revealing inputs.....namely Conroy and Pastorius<br /> with Sweet Caporal 350 backs. So, this may eliminate these two from being Piedmont 350 (only) "cousins". The only Piedmont 350 back, so<br /> far, identified on Pastorius is mine. And, I think Scot Reader has a Conroy (fielding) with a Piedmont 350 back. <br /><br />I will substitute these two with a couple of "bench-warmers"....Ames (hands/chest) and Larry Doyle (throwing). These two cards have been<br /> historically considered as 150/350 Subjects. Scot Reader and I are virtually convinced that these two Subjects are "150-only" cards.....but,<br /> I'll throw them into the mix and let's see if any of you Net54er's can disprove our theory, by reporting either of these 2 cards with 350 backs. <br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/ameslarrydoyle.jpg"><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/b11t206p350.jpg"><br /><br />"Cousins" Survey........UPDATED 9-11-07<br /><br /><br />Player................Piedmont 350......HINDU........EPDG....Sweet Cap 350<br /><br /><br />Ames (hands/chest).........0.............0..............0<br /><br />Conroy (fielding)..............0.............1........... ....0..............1<br /><br />Dahlen (Boston)...............2.............2............ ..0<br /><br />L Doyle (throwing)............0.............0............. .0<br /> <br />Ewing............................1..............1 ..............1<br /><br />Ganley...........................2..............1 ..............1<br /><br />T Jones (St Louis)............1..............2..............1< br /><br />Karger............................3.............. 0..............1<br /><br />Lindaman........................3..............4. .............1<br /><br />Lundgren (Cubs)..............3..............0.............. 1<br /><br />Mullin (throw)..................1..............0......... .....1<br /><br />Pastorius........................1..............1 ..............0..............1<br /><br />Schulte (front)................0..............0........... ...0<br /><br /><br />Totals...........................17.............. 12.............7<br /><br /><br /><br />OK, guys and gals we have us another Survey....flip over these T206's in your set and tell me their T-brand ?<br /><br />We've gotten off to a good start......Thanks for your time and effort,<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-12-2007 07:12 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Rob</b><p>Ewing = Sov 150<br />Mullin = SC 150/30<br /><br />sorry, no rare backs for me <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Rob<br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 09-13-2007 12:41 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Rob....that's fine, thanks for checking out your T206's.<br /><br /><br />And, 2 "readers" of Net54 have emailed me with their inputs on these cards; they are.....<br /><br />Karger.....EPDG<br /><br />Mullin.....Epdg<br /><br />and, No new Piedmont 350 cards of these 13 subjects.<br /><br />Thanks everyone....but, I expected more inputs from posters by now. So far, I'm not sure if you are proving my point<br />by not responding (as you do not have these tougher backs on these cards)........or just not interested ? ?<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-13-2007 12:59 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Ted,<br /> I have both Ames and Doyle with Hindu backs, but neither with Piedmont 350's to my knowledge. I will go through my lesser condition commons over the weekend to make sure. Be well Brian<br /><br /><br />PS I have seen the Mullin card with a Piedmont 350 back on EBAY, but I'm not sure I saved a scan. Art probably has one...

Archive 09-13-2007 02:50 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p><br />Ted,<br /><br />I have Conroy (Fielding) with Piedmont 350. Just lucky I guess. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Scot

Archive 09-13-2007 03:00 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ed McCollum</b><p>After the recent sale, don't have it now, but did on July 3, when I scanned it to place on eBay.

Archive 09-13-2007 03:40 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>I also have a Conroy SC350, (but it sure isn't a pretty one.)<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb189/jvb6034/T-206Conroy.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb189/jvb6034/T-206ConroyB-4.jpg"><br /><br /><br />Ed, Somebody else must have gotten that Ewing. It wasn't me.

Archive 09-14-2007 12:56 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>It never ceases to amaze me on how many HINDU cards you keep coming up with. You must have over a 100 of them ?<br /><br />Anyhow, I'm willing to bet you the biggest T-bone steak in North Carolina....that you will not come up with Piedmont 350<br />cards of Ames (hands/chest) or Larry Doyle (throwing).<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-14-2007 03:05 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>JIM VB<br /><br />No problem with your Conroy....information matters, condition is immaterial in these surveys.<br /><br />Thanks everyone for your inputs....I also received inputs via emails and I incorporate all the<br /> data when I upgrade the this Survey.<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-14-2007 05:19 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Darren</b><p>I have all in Pied and SC 150's with the addition of<br />T. Jones (St. Louis) EPDG<br />V. Lindaman EPDG<br />Mullin (throw) EPDG

Archive 09-14-2007 05:44 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>"Cousins" Survey........UPDATED 9-13-07<br /><br /><br />Player................Piedmont 350......HINDU........EPDG....Sweet Cap 350<br /><br /><br />Ames (hands/chest).........0.............1..............0<br /><br />Conroy (fielding)..............1.............1........... ....0..............2<br /><br />Dahlen (Boston)...............3.............3............ ..0<br /><br />L Doyle (throwing)............0.............1............. .0<br /> <br />Ewing............................1..............1 ..............1<br /><br />Ganley...........................2..............1 ..............1<br /><br />T Jones (St Louis)............1..............2..............2< br /><br />Karger............................3.............. 0..............2<br /><br />Lindaman........................3..............4. .............2<br /><br />Lundgren (Cubs)..............3..............0.............. 1<br /><br />Mullin (throw)..................1..............0......... .....3<br /><br />Pastorius........................2..............2 ..............0..............1<br /><br />Schulte (front)................0..............0........... ...0<br /><br /><br />Totals...........................20.............. 16............12<br /><br /><br /><br />OK, guys and gals we have us another Survey....flip over these T206's in your set and tell me their T-brand ?<br /><br />We've gotten off to a good start......Thanks for your time and effort,<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-14-2007 05:48 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Drew</b><p>Hi Ted<br /><br />My bench warmers.<br /><br />Ames P150(2)<br />Doyle P150 SC150<br /><br /><br /><br /><br><br>Drew

Archive 09-14-2007 11:59 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>David R</b><p>Ted,<br /><br />I have Karger, Jones and Mullin with EPDG backs.<br /><br />David

Archive 09-15-2007 04:53 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Rick McQuillan</b><p>Hi Ted,<br />Just got this in.<br /><br />Thanks for your great research. <br />Rick<br /><br /><img src="http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g9/buymycards/pastoriious.jpg"> <img src="http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g9/buymycards/pastoriious001.jpg">

Archive 09-15-2007 11:31 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Seam</b><p>So out of all of the t206 cards in the set which one is the rarest?

Archive 09-16-2007 05:58 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Hello Ted and all,<br /><br />Here's what I have, relative to this:<br /><br /><br />Ames (hands/chest) SC 350 fac 30<br /><br />Conroy (fielding) P 150<br /><br />Dahlen (Boston) SC 150 fac 30<br /><br />L Doyle (throwing) SC 150 fac 25<br /><br />Ewing SOV 150 <br /><br />Ganley P 150<br /><br />T Jones (St Louis) P 150<br /><br />Karger SC 150 fac 30<br /><br />Lindaman SOV 150<br /><br />Lundgren (Cubs) P 150<br /><br />Mullin (throw) P 150<br /><br />Pastorius P 150<br /><br />Schulte (front) P 150<br /><br /><br />Hope that helps...<br />

Archive 09-16-2007 07:18 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p>Frank,<br /><br />Your Ames (HAC) SC 350/30 is the first instance of that subject in the 350 series that has been revealed in the last few years. A quite rare front/back combo!<br /><br />Given the importance of this find, can you double-check and confirm that your SC 350/30 example is Hands at Chest and not Hands Above?<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />Scot

Archive 09-16-2007 07:25 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks for your inputs....FRANK....RICK....DAVID....DREW....and two emails.<br /><br /><br />"Cousins" Survey........UPDATED 9-15-07<br /><br /> <br />Player................Piedmont 350......HINDU........EPDG....Sweet Cap 350<br /><br /><br />Ames (hands/chest).........0.............1..............0<br /><br />Conroy (fielding)..............1.............1........... ....0..............2<br /><br />Dahlen (Boston)...............3.............3............ ..0<br /><br />L Doyle (throwing)............0.............2............. .0<br /> <br />Ewing............................1..............1 ..............1<br /><br />Ganley...........................3..............1 ..............1<br /><br />T Jones (St Louis)............1..............2..............3< br /><br />Karger............................3.............. 0..............3<br /><br />Lindaman........................3..............4. .............2<br /><br />Lundgren (Cubs)..............4..............0.............. 1<br /><br />Mullin (throw)..................1..............0......... .....4<br /><br />Pastorius........................2..............2 ..............0..............2<br /><br />Schulte (front)................0..............0........... ...0<br /><br /><br />Totals...........................22.............. 17............15<br /><br /><br /><br />OK, guys and gals we have us another Survey....flip over these T206's in your set and tell me their T-brand ?<br /><br />We are rolling right along now; and, I appreciate your time and effort....so, don't stop now.<br /><br />Thanks again, everyone,<br /><br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-16-2007 08:01 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I suspended entering Frank's SC 350 (Ames) input into the Survey......pending his confirmation.<br /><br />A similar experience was with an emailer, who provided an input of Doyle with an SC 350 back....and, upon a re-check, the emailer realized<br /> he had looked at his Joe Doyle card; instead Larry Doyle.<br /><br />However, if Frank has an Ames (hands/chest) with SC 350, he has a very rare back that you and I have not seen in at least 200+ samples.<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-16-2007 11:15 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Hey guys...<br /><br />I feel like the knight in The Holy Grail... "sorry, sorry, got you all worked up over nothing."<br /><br />My Ames with his hands at his chest is a Piedmont 150. <br /><br />The hands over head is the Sov 350, which is quite common.<br /><br /><br />Forgiveness is begged.<br /><br />Frank W.

Archive 09-16-2007 04:20 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>No problem ole buddy.....once in awhile, we need some excitement here......and, you certainly caused a stir.<br /><br />You never really know what next will show up with this "Monster" of a BB card set....so, we cannot "discard"<br /> anything. <br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-16-2007 05:12 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Rich H.</b><p>I've got the Dahlen Boston and Tom Jones in Piedmont 350.<br />I've got all the others in 150's.<br /><br /><br />Rich Ha<br /><br />

Archive 09-16-2007 05:33 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Art M.</b><p>Ted,<br />Another great survey! Here are my cards:<br /><br />Conroy Fielding SC30 150<br />Dahlen Boston P150<br />Ewing P150, SC25 150, SC30 150<br />Ganley P150, SC30 150<br />Tom Jones P150, SC30 150<br />Karger P150, SC30 150<br />Lindaman Sov150<br />Lundgren-Chi P150<br />Mullin-Throwing - EPDG, P150, P350, Sov150, SC25 150, SC30 150<br />Pastorius P150, SC30 150<br />Schulte-Fr View SC30 150, P150<br /><br />Art M.

Archive 09-18-2007 11:36 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks for your inputs....ART M....RICH H....Net54 readers, who emailed me.<br /><br /><br />"Cousins" Survey........UPDATED 9-17-07<br /><br /> <br />Player................Piedmont 350......HINDU........EPDG....Sweet Cap 350<br /><br /><br />Ames (hands/chest).........0.............1..............0<br /><br />Conroy (fielding)..............1.............1........... ....0..............2<br /><br />Dahlen (Boston)...............4.............3............ ..0<br /><br />L Doyle (throwing)............0.............2............. .0<br /> <br />Ewing............................1..............1 ..............1<br /><br />Ganley...........................3..............1 ..............2<br /><br />T Jones (St Louis)............2..............2..............3< br /><br />Karger............................3.............. 0..............4<br /><br />Lindaman........................3..............4. .............2<br /><br />Lundgren (Cubs)..............4..............0.............. 1<br /><br />Mullin (throw)..................2..............0......... .....5<br /><br />Pastorius........................2..............2 ..............0..............2<br /><br />Schulte (front)................0..............0........... ...0<br /><br /><br />Totals...........................25.............. 17............18<br /><br /><br /><br />OK, guys and gals we have us another Survey....flip over these T206's in your set and tell me their T-brand ?<br /><br />We are rolling right along now; and, I appreciate your time and effort....so, don't stop now.<br /><br />Thanks again, everyone,<br /><br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-18-2007 10:12 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>Not much help here, Trex, but here's my data:<br />Ames p150<br />conroy sc 150/30<br />dahlen sc 150/30<br />doyle p150<br />ewing p150<br />ganley sc 150/25<br />jones p150<br />karger p150<br />lindaman epdg<br />lundgren p150<br />mullin p150<br />pastorius p150<br />schulte sc 150/30<br /><br />great work Ted, as always,<br /><br />best,<br />barry

Archive 09-19-2007 10:42 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ron</b><p>Hi Ted,<br>Sorry for the delay in responding.<br>I have the Conroy fielding with Piedmont 350 back and<br>Lindaman with brown hindu back.<br>The rest are all either sweet cap 150 or Piedmont 150s<br><br>Ron

Archive 09-19-2007 03:16 PM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks for your inputs....BARRY....RON....and Net54 readers, who emailed me.<br /><br /><br />"Cousins" Survey........UPDATED 9-18-07<br /><br /><br />To provide a relative perspective, I've tallied the total number of 150 and 350 inputs in the rightmost column. <br /> <br /><br /> <br />Player................Piedmont 350......HINDU........EPDG....Sweet Cap 350....150/350 inputs (total)<br /><br /><br />Ames (hands/chest).........0.............1..............0..... ..........0..................12<br /><br />Conroy (fielding)..............2.............1........... ....0..............2..................29<br /><br />Dahlen (Boston)...............4.............3............ ..0...............0..................31<br /><br />L Doyle (throwing)............0.............2............. .0...............0..................12<br /> <br />Ewing............................1..............1 ..............1...............0..................2 7<br /><br />Ganley...........................3..............1 ..............2...............0..................3 0<br /><br />T Jones (St Louis)............2..............2..............3. ..............0..................32<br /><br />Karger............................3.............. 0..............4...............0.................. 31<br /><br />Lindaman........................3..............5. .............3...............0..................36 <br /><br />Lundgren (Cubs)..............4..............0.............. 1...............0..................25<br /><br />Mullin (throw)..................2..............0......... .....5...............0..................33<br /><br />Pastorius........................2..............2 ..............0...............2..................2 8<br /><br />Schulte (front)................0..............0........... ...0................0..................20<br /><br /><br />Totals...........................26.............1 8............19..............4.................346 <br /><br /><br /><br />OK, guys and gals we have us another Survey....flip over these T206's in your set and tell me their T-brand ?<br /><br />We are rolling right along now; and, I appreciate your time and effort....so, let's have some more inputs ?<br /><br />Thanks again, everyone,<br /><br /><br />TED Z

Archive 09-20-2007 09:32 AM

Joe Doyle NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"....SURVEY
 
Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p><br />Hi Ted,<br /><br />Beyond the two Pastorius SC350s that have been revealed on this thread, this front/back combo appeared three times in my eBay survey data. So I think Pastorius can safely be removed as a Piedmont 350-only candidate.<br /><br />I also wonder about the omission of Chance (Red Portrait) from the present survey. I don't recall having ever seen him with any 350 back except Piedmont. Have you?<br /><br />Scot<br />


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