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jad22 08-20-2017 01:10 PM

Dean Autographed Artvue Plaques
 
Wow. Whats the deal?


http://feb17.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...l?itemid=13375

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515

Klrdds 08-20-2017 03:45 PM

As the Huggins and Scott listing said the B&W autographed plaque is super rare and also remember his wife signed a lot of his items, including this plaque .

jad22 08-20-2017 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Klrdds (Post 1692802)
As the Huggins and Scott listing said the B&W autographed plaque is super rare and also remember his wife signed a lot of his items, including this plaque .

There was about a 10 year window to get the type I and II Artvue signed. Slightly longer than 10 years to get the yellow plaque signed. Wonder if his wife signed that much more for him in the 50's and early 60's.

Duluth Eskimo 08-20-2017 05:06 PM

This is a crazy price. With this bidding, more will appear. Who bids like this?

RichardSimon 08-20-2017 06:34 PM

Many years ago there was an article in the UACC magazine.
It contained the bio (maybe an interview also, cannot remember for sure) of a man who was a professional ghost signer for celebrities.
One of his clients was Dizzy Dean.

RichardSimon 08-20-2017 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo (Post 1692826)
This is a crazy price. With this bidding, more will appear. Who bids like this?

It is in a plastic tomb like cage and the "professionals" have graded it.
Hmmm,,, guess we have never seen anything else like that.:D

johnmh71 08-20-2017 07:03 PM

While we are on the subject, who else is considered a rare autograph on these postcards?

jad22 08-20-2017 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by johnmh71 (Post 1692854)
While we are on the subject, who else is considered a rare autograph on these postcards?

Albertypes: Alexander, Collins, Ruth, Burkett (if it exists) are rare.

brooklynbaseball 08-21-2017 06:20 AM

Insanity... I sold a couple in the past 10 years or so for under a grand :mad:

Klrdds 08-21-2017 06:31 AM

Huggins and Scott auctioned many of these plaques autographed including a complete set of them over the past year . Check their website under past auctions and you can see the results. They were really good prices .

Duluth Eskimo 08-21-2017 01:03 PM

Call me an uninformed buyer or seller, but who can justify having an encapsulated plaque and paying $17k for the plastic? As Richard said, obviously the kool aid tastes that good, but this is an item that cannot be that rare given the time frame given to sign. I understand a small premium for something that is "authenticated" by a "trusted" third party, but $16,000? Come on.

Duluth Eskimo 08-21-2017 01:11 PM

Even PSA's price guide says $750 for a B&W plaque. I understand that I too often disagree with their pricing, but I only use it as a reference because I'm not much of a plaque guy.

jad22 08-22-2017 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo (Post 1693037)
Even PSA's price guide says $750 for a B&W plaque. I understand that I too often disagree with their pricing, but I only use it as a reference because I'm not much of a plaque guy.

Dean's window for signing these was much longer than other players, so I am perplexed by this.

Wrightfan85 08-24-2017 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by johnmh71 (Post 1692854)
While we are on the subject, who else is considered a rare autograph on these postcards?

Gold: Foxx, Jackie, Goslin, and Bancroft. Bancroft easily the Holy grail as there was only a one year window.

dgo71 08-25-2017 01:08 AM

Front-signed Goslin is much more rare than Bancroft as I understand it. Not to say Bancroft is by any stretch easy to come by.

Wrightfan85 08-25-2017 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dgo71 (Post 1694509)
Front-signed Goslin is much more rare than Bancroft as I understand it. Not to say Bancroft is by any stretch easy to come by.

I have yet to be convinced any front signed examples exist. The JSA one has been disproven if I recall.

mr2686 08-25-2017 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Wrightfan85 (Post 1694575)
I have yet to be convinced any front signed examples exist. The JSA one has been disproven if I recall.

I have to agree. Considering he was too frail to attend his induction ceremony, and he died less than a year later, I find it hard to believe that there are any legit examples.

jad22 08-25-2017 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mr2686 (Post 1694588)
I have to agree. Considering he was too frail to attend his induction ceremony, and he died less than a year later, I find it hard to believe that there are any legit examples.

There was one sold during a Huggins and Scott auction. I do not remember it as coming back bad. Plus it was slabbed, so it has to be good.

btcarfagno 08-25-2017 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jad22 (Post 1694630)
There was one sold during a Huggins and Scott auction. I do not remember it as coming back bad. Plus it was slabbed, so it has to be good.

Sarcasm I am assuming.

Tom C

mr2686 08-25-2017 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by btcarfagno (Post 1694717)
Sarcasm I am assuming.

Tom C

Sarcasm I am hoping. LOL

mr2686 08-25-2017 03:33 PM

On a serious note though, does anyone have any idea when Bancroft would have received postcards to be able to sign? If after his induction, I'm guessing there are few to none that were actually signed. If it was more like 6 months before, then maybe a handful are authentic. I think I've seen 4, and of those I thought 3 were definitely bad, and the other one was a maybe.

jad22 08-25-2017 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mr2686 (Post 1694727)
Sarcasm I am hoping. LOL

Definitely.

nobasia00 08-26-2017 11:08 AM

Dean
 
The prices for all the B&W Artview or Albertype cards were crazy in both the Huggins & Scott and the Heritage auctions.

Klrdds 08-26-2017 11:38 AM

Along with Bancroft and Goslin there is also the question of whether or not could George Weiss have signed a plague also.

brooklynbaseball 08-27-2017 08:14 AM

3 Attachment(s)
Bancroft cards are not extremely hard to find. I was the high bidder on the H&S front signed Goslin card years back. I turned it down after a friend advised me of an issue with the "authenticity". It was discussed in a previous thread. Adding a couple of my Bancroft cards for show..


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