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johnmh71 09-20-2014 09:26 PM

Dizzy Dean Question
 
Is it me or does this look off? I am thinking that it is possibly secretarial:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Signed-Dizzy...item35dc8f8e6a

earlywynnfan 09-20-2014 09:50 PM

I'm far from an expert, but I wouldn't buy it.

Ken

MikeKam 09-20-2014 09:59 PM

That JSA sticker denotes items with values (usually) less than $20. Something is not right here.

khw 09-20-2014 10:54 PM

that is no good and no way the sticker would be on it and especially on like that , some of the stuff jsa certed for upper deck that would use a sticker like that with the word auction across it but upper deck had them place directly behind signature , and a few i had done for upper deck they did use these stickers but behind auto , this is just bad and most likely a bogus sticker

djson1 09-21-2014 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmh71 (Post 1325067)
Is it me or does this look off? I am thinking that it is possibly secretarial:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Signed-Dizzy...item35dc8f8e6a

Wow...that is so awkward-looking. It looks like a 10 year old kid did that.
That same dealer is also selling this one of Musial (also looks like a 10 year old did it):
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA...ZUG6NM/$_1.JPG

earlywynnfan 09-21-2014 04:46 AM

I thought it looked like a girl's handwriting.

johnmh71 09-21-2014 05:05 AM

I thought the sticker placement was very sloppy and I didn't even see that Musial, which is really bad. I am guessing that the seller is female based on the name. Goes to show that guys aren't the only ones playing games in the hobby.

Econteachert205 09-21-2014 06:22 AM

No good

ocjack 09-21-2014 12:23 PM

I had some similar Dean 3X5's that were deemed signed by his wife I believe. Maybe I should have sent them to JSA. :)

Duluth Eskimo 09-21-2014 12:39 PM

I think we can all agree this is no good if you know anything about Dean signatures. As others have said, another thing is that there is no way that JSA sticker would be on a Dean signature. It is blatantly obvious someone took a sticker off of Joe Blow and affixed it to this garbage. Again, common sense people. I saw this a few days ago and dismissed it immediately. Jason

RichardSimon 09-21-2014 01:28 PM

Many years ago there was actually a man who, as a living, ghost signed for athletes and I believe non sports celebs too. I think that this is an example of that man ghost signing for Dizzy Dean.

thetruthisoutthere 09-21-2014 04:47 PM

Ebay Seller Ginnybags4 Dizzy Dean Autograph
 
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johnmh71 09-21-2014 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo (Post 1325230)
I think we can all agree this is no good if you know anything about Dean signatures. As others have said, another thing is that there is no way that JSA sticker would be on a Dean signature. It is blatantly obvious someone took a sticker off of Joe Blow and affixed it to this garbage. Again, common sense people. I saw this a few days ago and dismissed it immediately. Jason

The whole point in posting this was to both further hone my own ability to identify autographs through the opinion of those more experienced than me, as well as to educate those on this site that are novices. I believe the responses have done this. It is good to know Jason that you can quickly identify a good vs. bad autograph, but the same cannot be said of everyone. Too bad the person that put in the $109.95 opening bid on it didn't see this first.

johnmh71 09-24-2014 12:16 PM

Here we go again. Different seller but the same type of item:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROY-CAMPANEL...item3a97d256eb

khw 09-24-2014 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmh71 (Post 1326405)
Here we go again. Different seller but the same type of item:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROY-CAMPANEL...item3a97d256eb

OK NOW LOOK AT THIS ONE closer , look at the sticker , it is a older stamp of approval but look at the black ink on it , it is a fake sticker somebody had made , in the past could turn into ebay and have it and all the stuff removed , new ebay , item stays

khw 09-24-2014 12:21 PM

finks is bad as well , i think we all can agree on one thing ebay sucks these days

Klrdds 09-24-2014 04:01 PM

At least the Dean seller offered a 14 day return privilege, our Campanella seller has no returns...guess he knows his signature is BAD.

RichardSimon 09-24-2014 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khw (Post 1326410)
finks is bad as well , i think we all can agree on one thing ebay sucks these days

Kirk - I am going to start a petition to bring back John Gonzalez, wanna sign it? :). At least when John was there someone really cared about authenticity.

khw 09-24-2014 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardSimon (Post 1326525)
Kirk - I am going to start a petition to bring back John Gonzalez, wanna sign it? :). At least when John was there someone really cared about authenticity.


i would be on board , heck i would sign it if it was speedy gonzalez , i wonder if people realize there is actually nobody there now? you can list whatever you want, the fallback is buyer protection and opening a case , then it filters through and if there is a problem you can get the money back , that is not a theory it is what they are doing, and the bogus vero program . heck john actually pulled off my cobb check cuts but he was on the phone to say he was sorry, that i will never forget

Klrdds 09-24-2014 04:53 PM

Richard, these are not part of those bogus signatures you posted several months ago trying to be recirculated thru the market again are they?
Just curious.

johnmh71 09-24-2014 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klrdds (Post 1326515)
At least the Dean seller offered a 14 day return privilege, our Campanella seller has no returns...guess he knows his signature is BAD.

He definitely knows it's bad. Look at the opening bid amount.

Klrdds 09-24-2014 06:44 PM

Maybe he is having an overstocked sale . His description is great and it sounds like he really knows his stuff.


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