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Lgarza99 01-01-2017 11:36 AM

Cards That Should Have Been
 
I have two:
1. Ty Cobb Green Portait on a T3.
2. A Joe Jackson T206 portrait.

I just think the Cobb in a larger image would have been outstanding.

Do you guys have any thoughts on cards that should have been?

rats60 01-01-2017 12:08 PM

Babe Ruth Cracker Jack

Scocs 01-01-2017 12:50 PM

American-produced Negro League baseball cards....

Cmount76 01-01-2017 12:52 PM

Babe Ruth Cracker jack

+1

brianp-beme 01-01-2017 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lgarza99 (Post 1615880)
I have two:
1. Ty Cobb Green Portait on a T3.
2. A Joe Jackson T206 portrait.

A Cobb green portrait as a T3 might be cool, but it would break the stylistic choice as seen in the set, which is that all players are shown in action poses.

Any T206 Joe Jackson would be neat, but it would probably mean one more card that most collectors would not have in their incomplete 'complete' sets. I would lean toward an action shot on this one (probably it is fairly obvious that I am man of action).

My pick would be a 1937/38 Zeenut of Ted Williams with the San Diego Padres. The manufacturers decided not to include any Padres players in these years, a break from all their previous Zeenut years where all the teams in the PCL were represented. So thus no Teddy Ballgame.

drcy 01-01-2017 12:59 PM

Even though Robin Yount was included, there are proofs for a 1975 Hostess George Brett rookie card but it was never included in the final issue.

Jason 01-01-2017 01:02 PM

How about a Jim Thorpe T210/T209 that would be cool!

Bliggity 01-01-2017 01:03 PM

Walter Johnson in an E90/92/101/102/105/106/etc set.

nebboy 01-01-2017 01:09 PM

The rest of the 400 designs for T205s

Lgarza99 01-01-2017 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1615914)
A Cobb green portrait as a T3 might be cool, but it would break the stylistic choice as seen in the set, which is that all players are shown in action poses.

Any T206 Joe Jackson would be neat, but it would probably mean one more card that most collectors would not have in their incomplete 'complete' sets. I would lean toward an action shot on this one (probably it is fairly obvious that I am man of action).

My pick would be a 1937/38 Zeenut of Ted Williams with the San Diego Padres. The manufacturers decided not to include any Padres players in these years, a break from all their previous Zeenut years where all the teams in the PCL were represented. So thus no Teddy Ballgame.

Brian, great info. A Zeenut of a young Ted Williams would have been great!

conor912 01-01-2017 01:34 PM

There's lots, but the first few that come to mind are T3s of Jackson and Wagner and '52T Musial.

jfkheat 01-01-2017 01:42 PM

1954 and 1955 Topps Mantles. 1952 and 1953 Topps Ted williams
James

7nohitter 01-01-2017 01:45 PM

1966 Nolan Ryan

edjs 01-01-2017 01:50 PM

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T211 Joe Jackson. I made this one up as a joke on one of the April Fools threads. It would be amazing.

oldjudge 01-01-2017 01:51 PM

Rogers Hornsby M101-4/5
1887 Cap Anson Old Judge
1955 Topps Mantle
Gypsy Queen Harry Wright and Connie Mack(they should exist but are unknown)
Mayo Cy Young

rats60 01-01-2017 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nebboy (Post 1615923)
The rest of the 400 designs for T205s

Including Wagner, Plank and Joe Jackson.

Econteachert205 01-01-2017 02:17 PM

Ryan/Seaver mets rookie stars

BeanTown 01-01-2017 02:25 PM

Joe Jackson 1909 T206 as he played with Philadelphia for ten days that season.
Joe Jackson 1910 Old Mill Cabinet
Babe Ruth 1914 Texas Tommy

Steve D 01-01-2017 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1615914)
My pick would be a 1937/38 Zeenut of Ted Williams with the San Diego Padres. The manufacturers decided not to include any Padres players in these years, a break from all their previous Zeenut years where all the teams in the PCL were represented. So thus no Teddy Ballgame.


+1

As a life-long Padres and Ted Williams fan, that is my big pet-peeve with Zeenuts.

Steve

mybuddyinc 01-01-2017 02:40 PM

E107 Louis "Chief" Sockalexis

EvilKing00 01-01-2017 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nebboy (Post 1615923)
The rest of the 400 designs for T205s

+1 lol

david_l 01-01-2017 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scocs (Post 1615912)
American-produced Negro League baseball cards....

Totally.

I'll also go with a Jim Thorpe T218.

Jason Carota 01-01-2017 03:01 PM

N300 Jimmy Collins Louisville/Boston variations.

Peter_Spaeth 01-01-2017 03:13 PM

1935 Diamond Stars Ruth and Gehrig.
1934 Goudey Ruth.
1935 Goudey Gehrig.
1938 Goudey Gehrig.
1948-51 Bowman DiMaggio.

Lgarza99 01-01-2017 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1615993)
1935 Diamond Stars Ruth and Gehrig.
1934 Goudey Ruth.
1935 Goudey Gehrig.
1938 Goudey Gehrig.
1948-51 Bowman DiMaggio.

Peter,
A 50 and 51 Bowman DiMaggio would have been great.

And I really like the idea posted earlier of a T205 Wagner.

leaflover 01-01-2017 04:02 PM

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It certainly should have been.

brian1961 01-01-2017 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leaflover (Post 1616009)
It certainly should have been.

Viola!!!!! A fantasy dream come true. Same with the 1934-36 Diamond Stars Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, and Joe DiMaggio. All produced by Art of the Game for the National Convention, ensconced by PSA!

You guys have all made swells picks, especially the T-206 Joe Jackson. I'll add:

T-3 of Joe Jackson and Joe Wood
T-206 Joe Wood
T-206 Colby Jack Coombs
1933 Delong Babe Ruth
1933 Delong Dizzy Dean (horizontal shot)
1933 Delong Mel Ott
1933 Delong Gabby Hartnett
1933 Delong Ted Lyons
1933 Delong Paul Waner
IS ANYONE ON HERE INFLUENTIAL FRIENDS WITH THE "LOVE OF THE GAME" FIRM THAT LOVINGLY FABRICATED THE 2013 CRACKER JACK BABE AND THE 2014 DIAMOND STAR BEAUTIES? It's not too early to present them with a grand idea for the 2017 National. Probably the best people to contact is Memory Lane Auctions, the firm that sponsored the CJ Ruth and this year's Lucky 7 Ty Cobb reprint. Boy, that Cobb was a honey in its serial-numbered /500 PSA case, and housed in the custom wood display box it came in---pure quality.

In conjunction with my E-book on a CD, NEVER CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN, and with the help of an artist/computer graphic artist and a very conscientious print shop worker, I managed to create a couple post-war dream cards, with 2 versions of each:

1954 Wilson Franks Mickey Mantle
1954 Wilson Franks Jackie Robinson

I was extremely pleased with them. They were designed at precisely the correct size, with pastel color backgrounds, semi-gloss sheen, and period autographs with a fine point pen. I had a lot of fun writing the backside write-ups. Oh, and in small type on the backside is to be seen the year they were printed. A very fulfilling dream to complement my dream of writing a hobby book.:D

This topic pops up every once in awhile, and always seems to illicit some very heart-felt responses! ---Brian Powell

wolf441 01-01-2017 06:29 PM

T206 Tris Speaker Portrait
T206 Honus Wagner Batting
T206 Eddie Plank Pitching

PolarBear 01-01-2017 06:40 PM

I agree with many of these already mentioned.

T206 Jackson
1915 CJ Ruth
The other 200 T205's. Man, that could have been the premier set in the hobby.
And too bad we didn't have a large 200+ color set from the mid/late 20's.

1953 Bowman Color set extended to 252 cards (same as the 52 set) to include Robinson, Mays, Williams, etc. That could have been another premier set.

Add Musial to any of the 50's Topps sets.

JRO$!( 01-01-2017 07:18 PM

1948 Bowman...
 
Red Sox players... woulda, shoulda been sweet!

Rookiemonster 01-01-2017 07:36 PM

A benny Friedman from his playing career .

1952 topps Ted Williams high number or sachel page .

1951 red backs Mays and mantle .

campyfan39 01-01-2017 07:54 PM

54 & 55 topps Mantle Campy and Musial
52 topps Joe D

JollyElm 01-01-2017 08:01 PM

For fans of post-war material, I created a whole slew of missing 1972 'in action' HOF'er cards awhile back. Check it out:
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=219771

glchen 01-01-2017 08:56 PM

You can see where my collecting interests lie:

1915 Cracker Jack Babe Ruth
1929 Leader Novelty Babe Ruth
1929 Leader Novelty Lou Gehrig
1931 W517 Mini Babe Ruth
1933 Butter Cream Lou Gehrig
1933 Delong Babe Ruth
1933 George Miller Babe Ruth
1933 George Miller Lou Gehrig
1933 Uncle Jacks Lou Gehrig

judsonhamlin 01-01-2017 09:12 PM

Old Judge Frank Grant
Batter Up Gehrig
33 goudey Connie Mack

Bored5000 01-01-2017 10:20 PM

I have often wondered why there is not a Cracker Jack Jim Thorpe. He did not have a lot of at bats in 1913 or 1914, but he was still a huge name at that point and would have made sense to be in the 1915 set at the very least.

Spike 01-01-2017 11:20 PM

1933 Goudey: both Ruth & Gehrig
1934 Goudey: Gehrig only
1935 Goudey 4-in-1: Ruth (Braves) only

While I understand 1934 Goudey's more of an "update" to 33G, featuring primarily new players after the first series, I'd enjoy either of these:

1934 Goudey Ruth
Goudey 4-in-1 with both Babe and Lou in pinstripes

Sean 01-02-2017 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bored5000 (Post 1616162)
I have often wondered why there is not a Cracker Jack Jim Thorpe. He did not have a lot of at bats in 1913 or 1914, but he was still a huge name at that point and would have made sense to be in the 1915 set at the very least.

I don't think that they added players from 1914 to 1915, they just used the same ones. But I'm no expert on CJs

brianp-beme 01-02-2017 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by david_l (Post 1615987)
Totally.

I'll also go with a Jim Thorpe T218.

Never thought of a T218 of Thorpe. What a great card it would be, and it makes sense that it should have been in the set...what were the producers of that set (not) thinking?

Brian

Maxjacks 01-02-2017 01:47 AM

I would love a Mathewson T206 with his pose in this picture.
https://i.imgur.com/eW8SUNY.jpg

Bored5000 01-02-2017 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1616189)
I don't think that they added players from 1914 to 1915, they just used the same ones. But I'm no expert on CJs

The set expanded from 144 players to 176 players for the 1915 cards. The mention of "176 pictures" on the back of each 1915 card is one of the easiest ways of determining if a card is a '14 Cracker Jack or a '15.

Sean 01-02-2017 03:51 AM

Eddie, thanks for explaining that. I never knew that CJ added players. I thought that Pratt and Mathewson were the only changes (besides the backs being flipped). :)

Bored5000 01-02-2017 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1616201)
Eddie, thanks for explaining that. I never knew that CJ added players. I thought that Pratt and Mathewson were the only changes (besides the backs being flipped). :)

No problem. :)

trdcrdkid 01-02-2017 08:49 AM

T206 Connie Mack
T205 and T207 Grover Cleveland Alexander

aljurgela 01-02-2017 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scocs (Post 1615912)
American-produced Negro League baseball cards....

+1 The Cubans, Mexican and Puerto Rican cards are great... but what a shame and commentary on our society that nothing was done in the USA....

e107collector 01-02-2017 10:35 AM

E107 portraits of Joe Jackson and Ty Cobb.

Also, T210 Cabinet of Joe Jackson. This has been rumored to exist, although I don't think it does.

T206 Of Joe Jackson

E107 portrait of Wagner in his uniform.

Tony

sflayank 01-02-2017 10:42 AM

Card
 
The ultimate would have been a 68 3d of mantle

paul 01-02-2017 11:46 AM

Any of the many missing Jesse Burkett cards, like N300 Mayo, E107, 1904 Allegheny.

packs 01-02-2017 11:43 PM

1939 Play Ball Lou Gehrig as a last hurrah card

MartyFromCANADA 01-03-2017 04:46 AM

George Gibson - Cracker Jack


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