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Leon 03-05-2016 09:00 AM

The Collecting "Ownership" by percentage......
 
How much does "ownership" count to you, as a percentage of the satisfaction of collecting?

Hot Springs Bathers 03-05-2016 09:24 AM

Leon- Run a poll asking how much "ownership" rates on satisfaction!

Leon 03-05-2016 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hot Springs Bathers (Post 1511818)
Leon- Run a poll asking how much "ownership" rates on satisfaction!

After some copying and deleting I think we have it. To me this parallels the other thread somewhat, but I am obviously not in alignment with some others. :) Interested to see the results though. I changed the original wording to say "satisfaction" instead of "fun".

frankbmd 03-05-2016 09:43 AM

Should not the last poll choice in this one be.....

No, ownership means nothing to me. I destroy the cards on arrival.:D

(Just to be consistent with the title of this poll)?

Leon 03-05-2016 09:46 AM

Um, I think I will do as the Beatles sang and "Let it Be".
*And I add there have been a few edits to try to be more clear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1511824)
Should not the last poll choice in this one be.....

No, ownership means nothing to me. I destroy the cards on arrival.:D

(Just to be consistent with the title of this poll)?


vintagesportscollector 03-05-2016 09:53 AM

Why I collect? ..because the items I collect are "...not simply sentimental artifacts of ages past, but almost sacred relics that enable us to connect physically with the game's heroes and traditions...". I think this phrase puts it best for me.

7nohitter 03-05-2016 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector (Post 1511830)
Why I collect? ..because the items I collect are "...not simply sentimental artifacts of ages past, but almost sacred relics that enable us to connect physically with the game's heroes and traditions...". I think this phrase puts it best for me.

Totally agree with, and could not say it better, than Joe

pokerplyr80 03-05-2016 10:48 AM

I'm not sure I could quantify ownership desire with a percentage, but that's the point of collecting, right? Otherwise we could just look at the cards in a museum. There's just something cool to me about owning cards or autographed memorabilia of the all time greats or childhood heroes.

thetruthisoutthere 03-05-2016 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1511824)
Should not the last poll choice in this one be.....

No, ownership means nothing to me. I destroy the cards on arrival.:D

(Just to be consistent with the title of this poll)?

Frank always makes me laugh!!!

glchen 03-05-2016 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1511848)
I'm not sure I could quantify ownership desire with a percentage, but that's the point of collecting, right? Otherwise we could just look at the cards in a museum. There's just something cool to me about owning cards or autographed memorabilia of the all time greats or childhood heroes.

I think some of the fun of collecting is the "hunt," hence the other poll. Many collectors sell a set after they complete it because the thrill is gone.

pokerplyr80 03-05-2016 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by glchen (Post 1511852)
I think some of the fun of collecting is the "hunt," hence the other poll. Many collectors sell a set after they complete it because the thrill is gone.

Got it. I had not noticed the other poll until now. There is definitely a thrill of the hunt component for me as well. Perhaps I should not have selected 90% in this poll.

White Borders 03-05-2016 11:03 AM

We must owns them. We must owns them all, my precioussssssss. gollum gollum

Leon 03-05-2016 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1511848)
I'm not sure I could quantify ownership desire with a percentage, but that's the point of collecting, right? Otherwise we could just look at the cards in a museum. There's just something cool to me about owning cards or autographed memorabilia of the all time greats or childhood heroes.

I love owning too but, especially with esoteric things I had to have in my 1st collection, once I obtained an item the thrill for that item diminished greatly. It might go more towards a type collector mentality, since that is what I always have been (except when I was very young) with a sprinkling of set collecting. I needed some cards to further me towards completion but didn't care to own them. An enigma wrapped in a bologna sandwich.
And of course everyone collects to own or it wouldn't be collecting or would it? :)

bnorth 03-05-2016 12:00 PM

30% The hunt
60% The first month I own it
10% Sitting in my collection

That is my break down. I do really like the hunt of finding a near poor card to fit my vintage collection.

The first month I own cards I look at them and read the backs several times. I really like the feel of the raw cards in hand while I look at them. I recently got several vintage Bowman reprint sets and am really enjoying reading the back of them.

I do like looking at cards I have owned for a long time but they just don't have that coolness of just getting them in the mail.

mechanicalman 03-05-2016 07:11 PM

Every month or so I find myself pulling cards out of the safe and just looking at them, arranging them in different ways. It's 20 minutes of feeling like a kid again; then I put them back. Those 20 minutes, for me, trump the hours I spend searching eBay, auctions, the BST, etc.

Great poll and question by the way.

pawpawdiv9 03-06-2016 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mechanicalman (Post 1512051)
Every month or so I find myself pulling cards out of the safe and just looking at them, arranging them in different ways. It's 20 minutes of feeling like a kid again; then I put them back. Those 20 minutes, for me, trump the hours I spend searching eBay, auctions, the BST, etc.

Great poll and question by the way.

Make this x2..I do the exact same thing here. I keep mine in a cardboard box and wrap the holders in sleeves or bubble wrap, to prevent scratches to the holder. What do you & others do to for storage-wise inside a safe??

LEHR 03-06-2016 08:35 AM

For me its about 50-50.

It's 50% the hunt and 50% ownership.

ullmandds 03-06-2016 08:54 AM

Isn't the point of collecting to acquire and own things after all? I mean sure one could collect sans of cards...i've thought about it! Most of the enjoyment I get from my collection is from looking at high resolution scans on the computer anyway.

For me the thrill of collecting is the ownership. While I may not look at my cards all that often...there are always some scattered around in plain view.

The thrill is when I post scans...or hold my cards in my hands...knowing that these cards...ARE MINE...for now!!!

pokerplyr80 03-06-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1511862)
I love owning too but, especially with esoteric things I had to have in my 1st collection, once I obtained an item the thrill for that item diminished greatly. It might go more towards a type collector mentality, since that is what I always have been (except when I was very young) with a sprinkling of set collecting. I needed some cards to further me towards completion but didn't care to own them. An enigma wrapped in a bologna sandwich.
And of course everyone collects to own or it wouldn't be collecting or would it? :)

Sorry Leon, without noticing the other hunt poll I didn't have the proper context to respond to this one. This poll made much more sense after I saw both. I'd still say that owning and looking at the cards from time to time is the majority for me, but I do enjoy the hunt.

As Sam mentioned, with a lot of my favorite cards locked up at the bank most of the time, I get a lot of enjoyment now viewing them in that little room when I need to go to the bank to add or remove one, or decide I just want to bring a few home for a day or two.

begsu1013 03-06-2016 11:29 AM

voted @ 90% on the hunt
voted @ 50% on the ownership

these are based off items that i really, really like to collect/the part that i tend to take kinda seriously...


hunt is definitely the best part of collecting for me.

the hunt itself is part of it, but having the will power to pass on a card that's ALMOST what i am looking for is very satisfying too. simply put, i'll know it when i see it. but then again there are those few times that i actually passed, but shouldn't have that haunt me as well. in the end, it's kinda demented but those are fun to me as well (in due time). basically, kicking myself in the a$$ and telling myself i was an idiot!

as for ownership, i kinda relate it to the ending scene of raiders of the lost ark. the one where indy risked life and limb to procure but in the end the ark is simply crated up and gets carted off to a warehouse simply to be stowed away.

not only that, after a few hours and the item is stowed i get a feeling of; "ok, now what?"

so for me, it's not about where you are going but how you get there or smelling the roses, etc.

if you ever did any touring, then you know most of the fun lies in the journey itself from town to town vs the actual concerts themselves.

1880nonsports 03-10-2016 12:23 AM

as a Floridian at this point
 
I guess it's OK that I voted 60% in the other poll and then opened this thread and voted 80%. This one a bit harder to quantify because in the end - although I could live without any of my pieces if it really came down to it - the happy ending is finding the item - assuming you still want it :-)

Leon 03-10-2016 06:33 AM

Ownership!!
 
Ownership? I received this message from Heritage a few days ago. I like ownership too!! He stayed!!

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begsu1013 03-10-2016 06:58 AM

classic.

Rookiemonster 03-10-2016 07:17 AM

I love the chase or hunt .

Then I love the ownership .

But I also love a good sale !!!!💸💰💸💰💵💴

ls7plus 03-10-2016 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector (Post 1511830)
Why I collect? ..because the items I collect are "...not simply sentimental artifacts of ages past, but almost sacred relics that enable us to connect physically with the game's heroes and traditions...". I think this phrase puts it best for me.

I think you absolutely nailed it!

Great post,

Larry


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