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SAllen2556 08-24-2017 07:13 AM

Best pre-war set in terms of photo quality
 
I have not seen enough pre-war black and white cards in person to really have a good idea of what set offers the highest quality in terms of photo reproduction - sharpness, contrast, etc.

The M101 series seem better than most, but it’s tough to tell from a computer screen. Any thoughts? I’m mainly a Detroit Tiger collector and I’d like to pursue cards from the teens and 20’s when nothing in color was really being produced besides strip cards, of which I am not a fan. Does any set even approach the quality of a good original photo? Or, to simplify things, what's the best looking Harry Heilmann card out there?

Leon 08-24-2017 07:21 AM

There are some sets with great photo quality, D381 is one of them (to me). The reason I think I started collecting real photo postcards is because of their great clarity..

http://luckeycards.com/billm.jpg

x2drich2000 08-24-2017 07:25 AM

While it doesn't have a Heilmann that I recall and can't think of many Tigers in the set, the T222 set has great images. The biggest drawbacks to the set are that it is extremely difficult to complete due to some of the shortprints being nearly impossible to find, and when they are found, are insanely expensive, and the set is extremely condition sensitive so looking for anything about VG is extremely difficult.

DJ

drcy 08-24-2017 12:22 PM

The T222s, and T200s, are actual photographs.

smtjoy 08-24-2017 12:29 PM

M101-6 Larger size and most are unique shots.
love this shot and background building (not mine)-
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...Doak-20-CU.jpg

Bicem 08-24-2017 12:59 PM

Fatima if you want actual photos.

oldjudge 08-24-2017 01:08 PM

Old Judge cabinets (N173)

Bicem 08-24-2017 01:19 PM

Yeah, but those aren't cards.

T206Collector 08-24-2017 01:35 PM

M101-2s
 
I really like these. Donie Bush has particularly great contrasts between light and dark -- chiaroscuro, as the artists like to say!

<img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8727/28947614703_063e160f0c_z.jpg" width="518" height="640" alt="Bush M101-2"></a>

Mark 08-24-2017 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by T206Collector (Post 1694264)
I really like these. Donie Bush has particularly great contrasts between light and dark -- chiaroscuro, as the artists like to say!

<img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8727/28947614703_063e160f0c_z.jpg" width="518" height="640" alt="Bush M101-2"></a>

This is another good suggestion. I also like the Police Gazette inserts.

http://www.oldcardboard.com/m/m128/m...cardsetID=1116

JeremyW 08-24-2017 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by x2drich2000 (Post 1694138)
While it doesn't have a Heilmann that I recall and can't think of many Tigers in the set, the T222 set has great images. The biggest drawbacks to the set are that it is extremely difficult to complete due to some of the shortprints being nearly impossible to find, and when they are found, are insanely expensive, and the set is extremely condition sensitive so looking for anything about VG is extremely difficult.

DJ

I agree, Fatima T222 has some of the best photographic images of any early 20th century set.

Bicem 08-24-2017 05:52 PM

Great photos Leon!

brianp-beme 08-24-2017 06:21 PM

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I have always considered the W503 set (not a strip card) has the sharpest photos seen on smaller size PreWW2 cards. Here are a couple of low condition but still fantastic looking examples...my old scans don't do their clarity justice.

Brian

yanksfan09 08-24-2017 06:56 PM

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D381

brianp-beme 08-24-2017 07:06 PM

As far as your tack on question about Heilmann cards, I have always liked the E121 of him in batting pose.

Brian

SAllen2556 08-24-2017 07:12 PM

Thank you men - lots of good suggestions. What, exactly, does "Rubber" refer to? Was he the team masseuse? 3 rubs for a quarter?

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1694137)
There are some sets with great photo quality, D381 is one of them (to me). The reason I think I started collecting real photo postcards is because of their great clarity..

http://luckeycards.com/billm.jpg


Joe_G. 08-24-2017 07:38 PM

Hello Scott,

If you lift the 20th century requirement, I agree with Jay, Old Judge cabinets or the small N172s. Hobby friend Joe Maples and I have both completed full run of the 1887 N172s(Detroit's Championship year), 28 cards in all. I've attached a sample of the 1887 cards. Most Old Judges have taken a sepia tint with time but were black and white when produced/distributed. The Twitchell example below being close to how they looked when produced.


brianp-beme 08-24-2017 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1694407)
As far as your tack on question about Heilmann cards, I have always liked the E121 of him in batting pose.

Brian

- added scan (card not mine)

orly57 08-24-2017 09:00 PM

Erick states a great case for those d381s. Amazing portraits. And that Chief Myers is as cool as it gets.

seanofjapan 08-24-2017 09:40 PM

Some of the center panel pictures on the T202s are pretty impressive.

terjung 08-24-2017 09:53 PM

I'll throw a vote towards the D381 set if for no other reason than for its uniqueness of poses.

I'll suggest Rotograph postcards. Want to show a couple, Jeff?

oldjudge 08-25-2017 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 1694254)
Yeah, but those aren't cards.

No, N173s are cards. Unlike postcards, they have always been in card catalogs.

Vintagecatcher 08-25-2017 09:25 AM

Frederick Fotos and Fatima T222s
 
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With regards to photo clarity, my choice would be for the following photo cards; Frederick Fotos and Fatima T222s.

Here are two of my favorites: Oscar Stanage and Jimmy Archer.

Patrick

Bicem 08-25-2017 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 1694576)
No, N173s are cards. Unlike postcards, they have always been in card catalogs.

But aren't there many postcard issues in card catalogs and with ACC designations if that's the criteria?

triwak 08-28-2017 02:03 PM

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A lot of the "Exhibits" issues have very nice photos, and are relatively inexpensive. Here's my poor conditioned Heilmann.

Aaron Seefeldt 08-28-2017 02:12 PM

A d381 & Police Gazette
 
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Here's my 2¢

brianp-beme 08-28-2017 02:21 PM

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I thought I would bring some top condition firepower from the web to showcase the photo quality of the W503 set.

Brian

Jobu 08-28-2017 04:06 PM

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How about E107?

brianp-beme 08-28-2017 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jobu (Post 1695655)
How about E107?

Which one wears it better...E107 or Fan Craze?

Brian

ValKehl 08-28-2017 06:06 PM

Scott, lots of great suggestions, however, if you are looking to choose a set that includes a Harry Heilmann card (unfortunately, the W503 set does not), this listing may be useful to you:
http://www.vintagecardprices.com/bas...&page=2&page=1

brianp-beme 08-28-2017 06:08 PM

W503 does not, but I already provided what I think is a pretty attractive b/w photo Heilmann card with my E121 posts which also include a scan. The list Val included is a good one, but some cards are hard to even track down an image on the internet, like the V89 Patterson.

Brian

brianp-beme 08-28-2017 06:40 PM

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Too early for a Heilmann, but I always thought the cards in the National Game/Tom Barker were not only underappreciated, but also quite often offer nice b/w photos.

Brian (not mine, nor am I a Getty)


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