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tedzan 05-23-2016 08:22 PM

1949 Leaf BB cards....show us your Leaf's
 
Most set collectors consider this set to be the toughest to complete of all the major post-war issues. I've posted this thread here in the pre-war section since this set
comprises of BB stars that played in every decade from 1897 to 1948.

There are 98 different subjects in this set (20 of them HOFers). These cards were issued in 2 series of 49 cards each. The first series was available very early in the
Spring of 1949. The 2nd (short-printed) series was very limited in its distribution during the Summer of 1949. These 49 cards were available only in four regions of
the country (Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, and Eastern Massachusetts).

Anyhow, I have quite a sentimental attachment to these cards, since they were my very first colorized BB cards that I collected when I was a 10-year old kid.

I'll start this show with some of my favorites in my set. Looking forward to seeing your 1949 Leaf cards.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...DiMaggio50.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...iMaggio50b.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...abeRuth50x.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...leafwagner.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...abeRuth25b.jpg..........http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...afPaige25x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...fPaige25xb.jpg


TED Z
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Joshwesley 05-23-2016 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1542379)
Most set collectors consider this set to be the toughest to complete of all the major post-war issues. I've posted this thread here in the pre-war section since this set
comprises of BB stars that played in every decade from 1897 to 1948.

There are 98 different subjects in this set (20 of them HOFers). These cards were issued in 2 series of 49 cards each. The first series was available very early in the
Spring of 1949. The 2nd (short-printed) series was very limited in its distribution during the Summer of 1949. These 49 cards were available only in four regions of
the country (Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, and Eastern Massachusetts).

Anyhow, I have quite a sentimental attachment to these cards, since they were my very first colorized BB cards that I collected when I was a 10-year kid.

I'll start this show with some of my favorites in my set. Looking forward to seeing your 1949 Leaf cards.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...DiMaggio50.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...iMaggio50b.jpg
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...baberuth49.jpghttp://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...leafwagner.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...abeRuth25b.jpg..........http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...afPaige25x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...fPaige25xb.jpg


TED Z
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Those are awesome Ted..

My holy grail is the satchel Paige.... Being born and still living in Mobile.... He's an icon around here.
One day!........

almostdone 05-23-2016 08:50 PM

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Great thread. I love this set. I only have one but it is easily in my top 5 of my collection.
Drew

sreader3 05-23-2016 08:51 PM

Beautiful cards Ted. The Joe D. is particularly amazing.

quinnsryche 05-23-2016 09:21 PM

But why?
 
Honestly, I've never understood the attraction to this set. I think they are by far the ugliest post war cards ever produced. I would love to hear why so many collectors love this set. I am not judging or belittling anyone, I really have always wondered why so many revere this set like they do (and I mean from the visual aspect, not the player content, that I do understand). I can totally understand Ted's reasoning as it's part of his childhood and I respect that.

pclpads 05-24-2016 01:28 AM

For me, they just evoke an image of the time. Despite all their numerous imperfections, i.e., color bleeds, stinko registration, over prints, mc and oc issues, always loved the set, always will. To each his own . . . That said, I only have one: Bob Elliott in SGC 84.

Hot Springs Bathers 05-24-2016 06:29 AM

I've always enjoyed them since finding some at a flea market in 1977. I actually like the football issue even better, classic poses of players we seldom see.

mrmantlecollector 05-24-2016 06:50 AM

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...G_0008-1-1.jpg

invest 05-24-2016 08:14 AM

My two favorite Leafs
 
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Lucky to pick these up before prices went crazy. Definitely two of my favorite.

Troy

Snapolit1 05-24-2016 09:05 AM

Have the entire set except Newhouser. Prices on that one, a short print, are just wacky. By year end hope to have a full set.

I love the Leafs. To me they always invoke Andy Warhol for some reason. Explosive colors. If you blew that Robinson card up and put it in the Warhol museum it would fit in just fine. My favorite post war set. Works of art to my eyes.

Peter_Spaeth 05-24-2016 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by invest (Post 1542505)
Lucky to pick these up before prices went crazy. Definitely two of my favorite.

Troy

Damn. Lucky indeed.

Peter_Spaeth 05-24-2016 09:13 AM

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Since a certain board member won't sell me his Williams, this is my only one so far.

leaflover 05-24-2016 09:28 AM

Now you're talking!
 
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This set, by far, has been the most interesting and enjoyable for me to collect.

Peter_Spaeth 05-24-2016 09:30 AM

A focused Feller. That is something.

CW 05-24-2016 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quinnsryche (Post 1542401)
Honestly, I've never understood the attraction to this set. I think they are by far the ugliest post war cards ever produced. I would love to hear why so many collectors love this set. I am not judging or belittling anyone, I really have always wondered why so many revere this set like they do (and I mean from the visual aspect, not the player content, that I do understand). I can totally understand Ted's reasoning as it's part of his childhood and I respect that.

In many cases it is an acquired taste. When I first got back into collecting ('98-'00), these didn't do much for me. However, over time I came to appreciate the appeal and relative beauty of these cards. Many are off register, so finding an example that's in good shape and registered can be tough, but they look so much better when everything lines up.

You also have minor and major color variations throughout the set, adding another nuance to the eye appeal factor. To me, they perfectly represent the time period, and the printing process resembles an Andy Warhol silkscreen to me.

CardMD 05-24-2016 10:20 AM

1948 Leaf
 
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Always loved these cards. Would love to pick up the other big three (Ruth / Robinson / Paige).

egri 05-24-2016 10:47 AM

My one and only
 
It has some paper loss on the back, but nothing I can't live with.

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...pslk9eode2.jpg

jbl79 05-24-2016 10:53 AM

Leaf Musial
 
My only Leaf card but one of my favorites...

Iwantmorecards77 05-24-2016 11:29 AM

Only have one...
 
Purchased several years ago.

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images...ackie-robinson

tedzan 05-24-2016 12:06 PM

1949 Leaf BB cards....Cleveland HOFers
 
Of the twenty HOFers in the 1949 LEAF set, the Indians lead with these five HOFers......


Spring series cards

"MVP in 1948" **
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...udreau25xb.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...oudreau25x.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eGordon25x.jpg



Summer series cards (short-prints)

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...afPaige25x.jpg..https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...eafDoby25x.jpg..http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...AFFeller25.jpg



** Note.... Trivia: What is unique regarding Lou Boudreau's MVP award ?

Furthermore, I bring Boudreau's 1948 MVP award to your attention, which is one of several factors that prove this LEAF set was issued ONLY in 1949. The graded card
flips (PSA, SGC, etc.) are absolutely incorrect with their "1948" date.

Boudreau's MVP award was announced in late December 1948. However, if you need more proof of the 1949 issue date, I refer you to my 8-page article published in
Old Cardboard titled "1949 R401 Leaf Gum Company: Most Challenging of all "R" sets" ? ...... Issue #9, Fall 2006.


TED Z
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mechanicalman 05-24-2016 12:37 PM

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Great cards, guys.

As someone who appreciates mid-century pop art, I find this set mesmerizing. As someone who craves focus and centering, I find it infuriating.

My only two examples. Hoping CW posts his DiMaggio duo.

pclpads 05-24-2016 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snapolit1 (Post 1542515)
Have the entire set except Newhouser. Prices on that one, a short print, are just wacky.

I had one many years ago, that I foolishly sold becuz Hal had four eyes, two in the middle of his forehead. Alas, haven't seen one since that I could afford.

Sinker Slider 05-24-2016 01:52 PM

Speaking of Hal, this is my only Leaf.
http://caimages.collectors.com/psaim.../Newhouser.jpg

pawpawdiv9 05-24-2016 02:43 PM

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My Paige, sold my Jackie earlier this year.
This was the one for me, the set is troubling with focus. And the Jackie also having wet transfer issues.

sflayank 05-24-2016 02:51 PM

Leaf needs
 
If anyone has brecheen majeski or scheffing in psa 7s for sale
Im interested
Thanks

ajjohnsonsoxfan 05-24-2016 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by invest (Post 1542505)
Lucky to pick these up before prices went crazy. Definitely two of my favorite.

Troy

Wow Troy those are Niiiice! You win so far...

leaflover 05-24-2016 03:07 PM

Imo
 
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Most of the cards in this set have problems. PSA has chosen not to apply PD (print defect) or OF (out of focus) "qualifiers" to this set. The term "buy the card and not the holder" definitely applies when collecting 48-49 Leafs.

When I see a well centered, well registered short print it's a thing of beauty.

Neal 05-24-2016 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1542521)
Since a certain board member won't sell me his Williams, this is my only one so far.

sweeeeet card Peter!

I am certain that a deal could be had .... seems like the members here are pretty cool.

The green Joe D
next to the red Teddy B
would certainly be
a sight to see

Bill77 05-24-2016 04:03 PM

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My Del Ennis rookie card.
Attachment 232318

buymycards 05-24-2016 04:19 PM

Leaf
 
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I love the Leaf set. Tons of variations with missing colors, strange tints, and they seem to be tough to find in top condition. I also love the 1948 and 1949 Leaf football cards. They are ugly but cool. The boxing cards are also interesting.

tedzan 05-24-2016 05:53 PM

It's TUESDAY NITE TRIVIA time......
 
I'm reprising this post because there were no responses to my Trivia question......

What is unique regarding Lou Boudreau's 1948 MVP award ?


Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1542586)
Of the twenty HOFers in the 1949 LEAF set, the Indians lead with these five HOFers......


Spring series cards

"MVP in 1948" **
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...udreau25xb.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...oudreau25x.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eGordon25x.jpg



Summer series cards (short-prints)

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...afPaige25x.jpg..http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eafDoby25x.jpg..http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...AFFeller25.jpg





** Note.... Trivia: What is unique regarding Lou Boudreau's 1948 MVP award ?

Furthermore, I bring Boudreau's 1948 MVP award to your attention, which is one of several factors that prove this LEAF set was issued ONLY in 1949. The graded card
flips (PSA, SGC, etc.) are absolutely incorrect with their "1948" date.

Boudreau's MVP award was announced in late December 1948. However, if you need more proof of the 1949 issue date, I refer you to my 8-page article published in
Old Cardboard titled "1949 R401 Leaf Gum Company: Most Challenging of all "R" sets" ? ...... Issue #9, Fall 2006.


TED Z
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Ksquared 05-24-2016 06:27 PM

Leaf set
 
I have been putting together this set for the last several years. Before I started, I also felt it was "ugly" but after reading Ted Z's article and looking at the set some more I decided to jump in and really enjoy the set. I'm down to needing one more card to complete the basic set (need the Larry Doby card). As many mentioned, it can really test your patience with the print defects, centering issues, focus problems but it has become one set where those issues don't bother me as much. Here is a link to my set and a few cards that I like that haven't been posted:

http://www.collectorfocus.com/collec...leaf-baseball/

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images...-tommy-henrich

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images...enos-slaughter

Joshwesley 05-24-2016 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9 (Post 1542640)
My Paige, sold my Jackie earlier this year.
This was the one for me, the set is troubling with focus. And the Jackie also having wet transfer issues.



Chris,
I can't shake the feeling that this Paige is going to end up in my collection one day :D

tedzan 05-24-2016 07:10 PM

Dark BLUE or light BLUE....have your choice.
 
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sialColors.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tBluexBlue.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ndillinger.jpg



And then, there is BLUE or no BLUE.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...izellplatt.jpg


TED Z
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clydepepper 05-24-2016 07:19 PM

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I have a Wagner & a Williams but

here are the only two I have scans of:

Attachment 232339

Attachment 232340

I used to own several more but have been reducing my collection.

Neal 05-24-2016 07:21 PM

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My lone example from the set ....

Attachment 232338

That is a cool Platt, Ted! I recall seeing a Musial with no color once as well, but I could be wrong.

I recall hearing about a "blue" Joe DiMaggio? Is that true?
I saw a yellow one in the last REA auction, which was nice, just not like a green Joe D.

almostdone 05-24-2016 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1542699)
I'm reprising this post because there were no responses to my Trivia question......

What is unique regarding Lou Boudreau's 1948 MVP award ?

Ok. I'll bite. Just a stab in the dark but was Lou Boudreau the only player/ manager to win an MVP?
Drew

clydepepper 05-24-2016 07:26 PM

Ted Z-

Thanks for dropping all the knowledge!


I'm fairly certain I wasn't farsighted enough to hold onto anything I ever paid less than a dollar for, much less a penny.

Bravo!

I dare say that not many other members could claim that distinction.

If so, those would be interesting stories to hear...I'd suggest a new thread...

'What's the most inexpensive vintage card you still have in your collection?'

frankbmd 05-24-2016 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 1542742)
Ted Z-

Thanks for dropping all the knowledge!

.........................................

?'


Ray,

I'm not sure there is a consensus opinion regarding Ted's droppings, but his knowledge is always appreciated.

steve_a 05-24-2016 08:41 PM

Ted,

Looks like your Fannin has a piece of Vern Stephens bat-

tedzan 05-24-2016 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by almostdone (Post 1542740)
Ok. I'll bite. Just a stab in the dark but was Lou Boudreau the only player/ manager to win an MVP?
Drew


Drew

You got it....you're the Trivia King tonite.


TED Z
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almostdone 05-24-2016 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1542780)
Drew

You got it....you're the Trivia King tonite.


TED Z
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I thought that might be it but now I see it's actually printed one the back of his card. :p
Drew

spec 05-25-2016 12:03 AM

[QUOTE=tedzan;1542379]Most set collectors consider this set to be the toughest to complete of all the major post-war issues. I've posted this thread here in the pre-war section since this set
comprises of BB stars that played in every decade from 1897 to 1948.

There are 98 different subjects in this set (20 of them HOFers). These cards were issued in 2 series of 49 cards each. The first series was available very early in the
Spring of 1949. The 2nd (short-printed) series was very limited in its distribution during the Summer of 1949. These 49 cards were available only in four regions of
the country (Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, and Eastern Massachusetts).

Anyhow, I have quite a sentimental attachment to these cards, since they were my very first colorized BB cards that I collected when I was a 10-year kid.

Ted,
When did you discover there was a second series of the Leaf baseball set? Also, were all the Bowman 1949 series sold in your NJ hometown?

Enfuego 05-25-2016 06:32 AM

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Here is my only one

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

tedzan 05-25-2016 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan (Post 1542379)
Most set collectors consider this set to be the toughest to complete of all the major post-war issues. I've posted this thread here in the pre-war section since this set
comprises of BB stars that played in every decade from 1897 to 1948.

There are 98 different subjects in this set (20 of them HOFers). These cards were issued in 2 series of 49 cards each. The first series was available very early in the
Spring of 1949. The 2nd (short-printed) series was very limited in its distribution during the Summer of 1949. These 49 cards were available only in four regions of
the country (Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, and Eastern Massachusetts).

Anyhow, I have quite a sentimental attachment to these cards, since they were my very first colorized BB cards that I collected when I was a 10-year kid.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spec (Post 1542817)
Ted,
When did you discover there was a second series of the Leaf baseball set? Also, were all the Bowman 1949 series sold in your NJ hometown?


In 1949 in our neighborhood in New Jersey, the LEAF's were available in March. The BOWMAN's followed in April (or May). I remember this well because Spring training had started
when we were flipping our LEAF cards. Also, we played a game of scaling them against our front porch. Like horseshoes, the closest one to the first step would pick up all the cards.
If one of us got a leaner, the kid that knocked it down by aiming his LEAF card at it picked up all the cards.

Only the 1st series LEAF's were available to us. I had my original 49 cards in this LEAF cards set when I got back in the hobby in 1977. I acquired my first 2nd series LEAF card at
a 1982 card Show in north NJ from a dealer from Ohio. It was this Satchell Paige, and it cost me $200. Eight years later, I completed this set of 98 cards (and, its 3 variations).
I have completed a 521-card T206 set in less time than that !


And, to your 2nd question......all 5 series of the 252 cards in the BOWMAN set were available in our neighborhood during May thru September 1949.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...afPaige25x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...fPaige25xb.jpg


TED Z
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Joshwesley 05-25-2016 08:17 AM

Ted
That's a neat story... That would be around my dad's age.

You need to get that Paige graded... It's a beauty..
I'm guessing you would get a 6 or 7.

That's high quality

leaflover 05-25-2016 08:27 AM

Variations
 
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Hey Ted....I find these two are interesting. Priddy with the all yellow background.
Wyrostek with some uniform detail. This might be unique. Maybe a pattern
card?

tedzan 05-25-2016 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leaflover (Post 1542895)
Hey Ted....I find these two are interesting. Priddy with the all yellow background.
Wyrostek with some uniform detail. This might be unique. Maybe a pattern
card?


Hi Mike

Here's my normally green Billy Johnson with a yellow background.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sonsyellow.jpg

I'm not quite sure what you are noting on your Wyrostek card ?


TED Z
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leaflover 05-25-2016 11:37 AM

Wyrostek
 
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It's the blue striping on his jersey. I have never seen another example with the stripes.

tedzan 05-25-2016 01:10 PM

Hi Mike

I always assumed Wyrostek was printed with the striping on his jersey. My card does not have it....and, I will be on the look out for another that does have the striping.

But, I'm sure you have been doing that.

Thanks for posting your Wyrostek cards.


TED Z
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