1940 Play Ball Superman Ad Back
 

Hi guys, does anyone have any information on this issue? I have done some research and found an article by Lemke on it, but I cannot seem to locate much other than that. Are certain cards particularly difficult with this back? Are some not supposed to have it?

Any information would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Eh - Lemke's log spells out exactly what I said and even better.....

I think it is incorrect, hoping someone has further information. I have cards that are out of that # range /w Superman backs.

Edit:

In Lemke's article he states
"Each of those cards, however, can also be found with one of six advertising messages for Gum Inc.'s Superman gum cards. For reasons unknown, cards #121-122, which were printed on the same sheet(s) as #123-180, are NOT found with Superman ad backs. Only one of the various Superman ads is found on any particular card."

I have card #122 /w a Superman back.

I have 132 Connie Mack with a Superman back

That is within the range of cards that are supposed to have it. The card I am specifically talking about is one that is claimed to not exist.

What number are you talking about

Read the post above yours.

That would almost certainly mean that #121 could be found with the Superman back as well. #121/#122 may very well be rarer examples. Unfortunately, as Bob mentions, not a lot of attention is given to this back variation.

The one example I have, I bought with no mention at all of the back variation.

Definitely relevant news though.

Anyone have a link to the article
 

by Lemke?
Thanks,
Jason

I have #121 with a Superman ad back. I have several examples of other numbers where I have two different ad backs - one is a Superman, and one is just about the baseball set itself.

Andy

I have 122 w/ a superman back as well...

There may be others but this was the blog post I was referring to. Its a good read even though it seems they've found misinformation.

http://boblemke.blogspot.com/2011/10...n-ad-back.html

Based on this new information, I have updated that blog post from 10/11.

I finally broke down and dug out my 1940 PBs and found that #122 has a Superman ad back. My card 121 does not have the ad back. If I have time I'll dig through more of my PBs and see if I have dupes of those cards. If I find a dupe 121 or 122 with a Superman back, I'll post that I found it.

Ok, I found my box with 1940 dupes, I have a 121 with a Superman ad. Also found a T206 with a Sovereign 460 back and a few other Sovereign 350 backs. I haven't looked through that box in ages.....

Are Sovereign 460 backs hard to find?

I just looked through my '40 PB and have Superman backs well outside the 121-180 range indicated. Nothing before #121 but I have Superman back examples all the way through to #240, some PSA graded (fwiw). Below are three outside the range, each with a different Superman ad.

http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps3vikmak7.jpg

Most of my high numbers have a Superman ad back. I also have no Superman backs before #121.

Andy

I also found ad backs in the hi number series. I didn't look at the backs of cards earlier than 121.

A couple of questions regarding Superman backs.

1. When did SGC start labeling their flips with the Superman notation?
2. I haven’t seen a flip fron PSA with a Superman notation. Do they not recognize/label it?
3. Is there a premium for the Superman backs?

Thanks for your help!

t

To answer #3, it is a variation with no premium.