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CharleyBrown 08-16-2011 12:44 PM

East Coast National - White Plains, NY
 
Is anybody from the board planning to attend this show? I was wondering if anybody has been to the East Coast National show in the past, and if so, how was it?

I am trying to decide as to whether I should go on Thursday, Friday, or Saturday, if at all :eek:.

I went to the last White Plains show in search of some of the tougher Jackie Robinson (Post-war I know) cards (Bond Bread Jackie Robinsons, 1950 R423, Berk Ross, Hocus Focus, and 1952 Brooklyn Dodgers Schedule Card), but was pretty much told I was searching for the impossible, and nobody would have them there. I'm hoping the East Coast National may prove otherwise.

bcbgcbrcb 08-16-2011 01:13 PM

Having gone to many of these WP shows, to me the East Coast National brings in a few more dealers but the material is not all that different. I would probably only recommend going on Thursday (opening day) as anything worth buying will likely be scooped up by the end of the day unless it is drastically overpriced.

My biggest issue with all of the big card shows these days including the National (actually most of all the National) is that the dealers (and their friends/"helpers" who are not dealers and HAVE NOT PAID for this opportunity) not only have the chance to walk around before the show is opened to the public but even go so far as to be able to walk around THE DAY BEFORE the show is open to the public. Rest assured, almost no bargains make it through to the time that the show initially opens to the rest of us (including those that paid a lot of extra money for VIP admission to enter the show early).

CharleyBrown 08-16-2011 02:45 PM

I guess I figured as much. I'll probably drop in on Thursday if I do decide to go.

Big Six 08-16-2011 02:52 PM

I hope to make it down there on Sunday...

packs 08-16-2011 09:00 PM

I don't usually find too much that I'm interested in. Last time I went I had my smart phone so every time a dealer quoted an outrageous price I showed him VCP. Didn't help. The autograph guests are always priced reasonably though and usually take the time for photos and a few words. That's my favorite part of the WP shows.

Can't beat JSA and SGC on site either. I just wish there was some new blood in the dealers. Pretty much the same tables for years.

ibuysportsephemera 08-18-2011 02:47 AM

Thursday Night
 
It has been a long time since I have been to a show at White Plains.

I plan on going tonight....I was inspired by Carlton's photos from the National.

Jeff

DanP 08-18-2011 06:19 AM

Info about the show
 
http://nyshows.org/White_Plains_Shows_Future_Show.html

I'm hoping to go tonight!

CharleyBrown 08-18-2011 12:46 PM

Very nice - I'll be there around 5.. maybe see some of you there!

DanP 08-18-2011 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharleyBrown (Post 918236)
Very nice - I'll be there around 5.. maybe see some of you there!

Shaun,
email me at danp306@gmail.com or call 860 384-9153 when you get there. I should be there around 5pm also.

ibuysportsephemera 08-18-2011 01:18 PM

Me Too
 
I will be there around 5 as well. I am wearing a Kalamazoo Fire Department
T Shirt....Say Hi if you run into me.

Jeff

calvindog 08-18-2011 04:31 PM

Weaker than last year. Saw some nice candy bars and some wheat cent cards. And some overpriced junk from the National (which was also in White Plains last summer).

Exhibitman 08-18-2011 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb (Post 917682)
My biggest issue with all of the big card shows these days including the National (actually most of all the National) is that the dealers (and their friends/"helpers" who are not dealers and HAVE NOT PAID for this opportunity) not only have the chance to walk around before the show is opened to the public but even go so far as to be able to walk around THE DAY BEFORE the show is open to the public. Rest assured, almost no bargains make it through to the time that the show initially opens to the rest of us (including those that paid a lot of extra money for VIP admission to enter the show early).

I beg to differ. There are lots of opportunities as the National progresses if you are relentless in covering the floor all day, every day. Some of the best items I got were on Friday, stuff that either walked in and was being resold or items that the dealers hadn't put out before then, or stuff that was just plain buried in the mass of material. There are definitely deals to be had the first day but the National is so big that it is impossible to "loot" it fully on preview day, even if you hit the floor at 8:00 sharp. But you gotta work the show to find stuff. The National is a long march, not a sprint. I was absolutely exhausted every evening with aching feet from covering so much floor for 8 hours or more.

refz 08-18-2011 05:51 PM

ill be there sunday

christopher.herman 08-18-2011 06:46 PM

I'll see you fellow Net54'ers on Friday. I'll be at the SGC table getting like a dozen various W series cards graded --- and hopefully finding some interesting cards also. Good luck all.

JasonL 08-20-2011 12:34 PM

just got back...
 
place wwas hopping today (saturday)...probably due to the autograph guests...lots of nice vintage to see, but the usual lack of price tags gives the impression that people are just there to show off...but a few tables of some neat stuff. Left a submission with SGC...didn't know the guys there this time...has there been some personenl turnover the past 12 months?

bcbgcbrcb 08-20-2011 12:55 PM

Made the trip to the show today. SGC did a great job with my on-site grading submission. Also, very convenient to submit some photos to Beckett. Finally, dropped off a few auction consignments with Brian Dwyer, who was top-notch as usual. Otherwise, the show was not at all worthwhile from a buying standpoint for me. As Jason mentioned, the aisles were very crowded and the primary focus of the attendees appeared to be the autograph guests.

brass_rat 08-20-2011 01:40 PM

I agree with Phil...the show was pretty crowded from the start this morning. I was pleased to have SGC grading on-site...the card I brought with me has great sentimental value, and I never wanted to send it off for fear that it might get lost in transit. The $20 same-day special couldn't be beat...holder just looks nice, and I didn't care about the grade on this one...

The show didn't have much to offer in terms of vintage material...mostly the same stuff from last year. I was much more interested in the auction preview items that a few houses were sporting.

Steve

GoldenAge50s 08-20-2011 01:41 PM

Left a submission with SGC...didn't know the guys there this time..

Anybody know who was there from SGC? I would have thought Michael would have been one of them.

bcbgcbrcb 08-20-2011 02:09 PM

Earl & Steve & Scott were there from SGC. Michael no longer works there.

packs 08-20-2011 02:25 PM

My father went for me today since I'm on the West Coast now. I got a great call from him this morning letting me know that JSA authenticated my Grover Cleveland Alexander signed baseball. This was the pickup of a lifetime for me considering the price I paid for it. Also authenticated Babe Didrickson's signature.

http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m...LAlexander.jpg


http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m...djams/Babe.jpg

GoldenAge50s 08-20-2011 02:44 PM

Earl & Steve & Scott were there from SGC. Michael no longer works there.

Hi Phil---

I thought Michael G just went back w/ the same position Sean had? What happened & when? I did not know this & have not heard it discussed!

oldjudge 08-20-2011 05:17 PM

Nice selection of beanie babies

iwantitiwinit 08-20-2011 05:29 PM

Was going to take a ride over tomorrow, White Plains is about 35 minutes from my house, going to be looking for t206 commons. Is it worth the ride?

bcbgcbrcb 08-20-2011 06:05 PM

I did see some T206 commons there, probably worth the trip if that is what you are after.

Michael was back very briefly at SGC a second time, don't know the details about what happened but he is not there any more.

Leon 08-20-2011 06:16 PM

my understanding
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb (Post 918778)
I did see some T206 commons there, probably worth the trip if that is what you are after.

Michael was back very briefly at SGC a second time, don't know the details about what happened but he is not there any more.

My understanding is Michael wasn't happy with his employment and left the company a day before the National. I believe they have a gentleman named Earl, who seems very mature and capable, taking his place. He is super nice and easy to work with, from the 1-2 times I have done things with him. The graders have remained the same except for Derek going to Heritage. regards

T206Collector 08-20-2011 06:27 PM

I was there today, and conducted a ton of "business", including:

1. Traded a group of E92s for this E90-1 Cobb (see B/S/T):

<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/SD0GGSBZVYr0dHYZxt8SjTjf-nGUyLgDdbr5_nY44K4?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V-6jvcipdt8/TlBPHWVKXKI/AAAAAAAAJXI/UHRf1Yc9GcY/s800/Cobb_E90-1_SGC40.jpg" height="647" width="800" /></a>

2. Dropped off three signed T206s, a signed Grove Golden Press, and my signed Callahan Connie Mack for JSA/SGC one-day treatment. Will pick them up tomorrow.

3. Had SGC encapsulate my Jeter 3000 ticket.

4. Submitted for SGC crossover my T206 McGraw BVG 5 -- hoping for an SGC 60.

5. Met the new crew working at SGC -- they were all extremely competent and adhere to the level of customer service I have grown to expect from my grading company.

GoldenAge50s 08-20-2011 07:19 PM

Thanks to all for the SGC update, Michael coming back & then leaving again both puzzles me & causes concern over SGC's direction.

Oscar_Stanage 08-09-2023 05:22 AM

seems like there is an old thread on every topic....
resurrecting this from 2011.....

East Coast National coming up quick...

Is the East Coast National worthwhile for tobacco? As a comparison, I do think the Philly show is pretty good for the old stuff. How does the East Coast National compare to the Philly show?

Snapolit1 08-09-2023 08:00 AM

I recommend definitely go. There might not be great bargains to be had, but real top notch dealers and is well attended but not insane. I never regretted driving up to one of these.

Snapolit1 08-09-2023 08:00 AM

I recommend definitely go. There might not be great bargains to be had, but real top notch dealers and is well attended but not insane. I never regretted driving up to one of these.

parkplace33 08-09-2023 09:01 AM

Definitely go. I suspect dealers who didn't do well at the National may be more motivated to sell.

Brian 08-09-2023 07:43 PM

East coast Natl
 
I have been many times to WP and the East Coast National specifically, and for me, it's been hit-or-miss for sure. Every now and then I find something good....but one needs to have reasonable expectations.

bigfanNY 08-09-2023 08:31 PM

If you have never been then definitely go. It is one of the better shows in the area. I go every few years mostly just to say hello to old friends. The Philly show next month is also fun to attend. Most of the rarest cards I have purchased were at card shows. Never know what can turn up.

Vintageclout 08-10-2023 08:10 PM

East Coast National
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CharleyBrown (Post 917660)
Is anybody from the board planning to attend this show? I was wondering if anybody has been to the East Coast National show in the past, and if so, how was it?

I am trying to decide as to whether I should go on Thursday, Friday, or Saturday, if at all :eek:.

I went to the last White Plains show in search of some of the tougher Jackie Robinson (Post-war I know) cards (Bond Bread Jackie Robinsons, 1950 R423, Berk Ross, Hocus Focus, and 1952 Brooklyn Dodgers Schedule Card), but was pretty much told I was searching for the impossible, and nobody would have them there. I'm hoping the East Coast National may prove otherwise.

FYI, Thursday is only for dealer early setup (4-7). Show opens to the public on Friday 3-7 (1-7 for early “sneak peak” at a $25 cost).

Oscar_Stanage 08-11-2023 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vintageclout (Post 2363295)
FYI, Thursday is only for dealer early setup (4-7). Show opens to the public on Friday 3-7 (1-7 for early “sneak peak” at a $25 cost).

is there a full set up during the "sneak peak"? or will the show be at less than 100% dealer tables?

Vintagedeputy 08-11-2023 05:31 AM

White Plains….wow. I recall the days as a young collector when I would get my mom to drive me to White Plains to attend the Gloria Rothstein card show there.

Good times.

hcv123 08-11-2023 06:43 AM

I suspect the only dealers who didn't do well at the national ......
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by parkplace33 (Post 2362917)
Definitely go. I suspect dealers who didn't do well at the National may be more motivated to sell.

were the ones that weren't there! I didn't hear any sales disappointments from the number that I spoke with.

That said, I will be set up at the East Coast National and invite all Net 54 members to stop by and say hello.

This is the first time since the Rothstein shows that there will be 2 floors of dealer tables. I am looking forward to a good show.

Howard Chasser

Bobbycee 08-11-2023 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 2363367)
were the ones that weren't there! I didn't hear any sales disappointments from the number that I spoke with.

That said, I will be set up at the East Coast National and invite all Net 54 members to stop by and say hello.

This is the first time since the Rothstein shows that there will be 2 floors of dealer tables. I am looking forward to a good show.

Howard Chasser

Will do Howard. Isn't this weekend's show in Tarrytown?

Vintageclout 08-11-2023 09:34 AM

White Plains
 
Not in Tarrytown. The show is back at the traditional White Plains Convention Center. This will be the first show there since Pre-COVID.

Vintageclout 08-11-2023 09:37 AM

East Coast National
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oscar_Stanage (Post 2363355)
is there a full set up during the "sneak peak"? or will the show be at less than 100% dealer tables?

My best guess is the show should be close to 100% “ready to go” by 1:00 Friday.

jayshum 08-11-2023 10:24 AM

What are the dates of the show? Is it this weekend or next weekend (18th-20th)?

Vintageclout 08-11-2023 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2363433)
What are the dates of the show? Is it this weekend or next weekend (18th-20th)?

Next weekend: 18th - 20th

refz 08-11-2023 04:42 PM

I’ll be there with my kids on Saturday to drop some items off at SGC.

mantlefan 08-11-2023 06:13 PM

Go
 
It's usually a very good show. I'll be there Sunday.

brooklynbotter 08-11-2023 06:35 PM

Gonna be there all day Friday, haven't been to a show before. Looking forward to meeting some people from here

hcv123 08-12-2023 10:50 AM

As already mentioned...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbycee (Post 2363406)
Will do Howard. Isn't this weekend's show in Tarrytown?

Show is Friday the 18th through Sunday the 20th at the Westchester county center in White Plains NY


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