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G1911 03-19-2024 12:19 PM

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On the complete opposite end of the price spectrum, when I see the poster and album cuts cheap I'm grabbing them to go alongside my Ginter boxing set. These two are from the advertising poster. I still need a Jimmy Carroll N28 card to finish the N28/N29's, one will come along soon enough.

Smith was a British champion, Lannon a gatekeeper type. Both were not the scientific type of pugilist, Lannon is probably most known for being one of Sullivan's more frequent partners for staged exhibitions than for any of his real fights.

Exhibitman 03-22-2024 10:44 PM

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Had a good night in Heritage...

G1911 03-28-2024 07:56 PM

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Got a fresh batch of tough C52's, including a boxer and one card I needed, #83 Hoppe. Up to 95 out of the 109 cards for my set, with a large number of duplicates to trade.

G1911 04-06-2024 12:13 PM

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An upgrade for once, even if it's still creased.

G1911 04-18-2024 03:09 PM

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Picked these up recently, Wilson should be a welcome downgrade for my beater set. I don't really see why Wilson and Beecher wouldn't qualify for a number grade, but they'll be cracked out anyways. These slabs are clearly going to damage the cards even more as there is nothing holding them in position and even light handling bounces the card up and down into the top and bottom bars.

Exhibitman 04-18-2024 06:45 PM

If I might mix brands, I don't know why the submitter even bothers to get a bulls**t grade from a horses***t grading service in the first place.

D. Bergin 04-19-2024 11:54 AM

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Picked up these two bout sheets/fight announcements a little while back. Likely unique in their survival (or close to it). They weren't giveaways, but nobody else seemed to have an interest in bidding on them.

No real superstars, but some Champions (self-described and otherwise), and lots of boxers who featured in tobacco sets of the day.

Found the name "Tug Collins" interesting. Wonder if that might have been Tug Wilson, who may have been in the area during that time period, and whose actual given name was "John Collins".

Also: "J. Carrol". Not sure if that's the "Jimmy Carroll" from the N28 A&G Set, or another Jimmy Carroll of that time period.

G1911 04-19-2024 12:12 PM

Looks live it is indeed Jimmy Carroll of the A&G set. Cyber Boxing Zone has that Jimmy Carroll fighting a J.H. O'Neal on October 31st, lining up perfectly. http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/carroll-jimmy.htm

Tug Collins I can't find a photo of. His Boxrec lists only 3 fights, against Duffy twice and Havlin. That's awfully high competition for a guy who never did anything else. https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/64261. Wilson was in the US in 1882, returned to England to fight Mitchell in 1883, but was back in the US again in 1886 at the latest. I suspect this guy might be Tug Wilson.

Those are awesome pieces, Dave

D. Bergin 04-20-2024 08:26 AM

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Looks live it is indeed Jimmy Carroll of the A&G set. Cyber Boxing Zone has that Jimmy Carroll fighting a J.H. O'Neal on October 31st, lining up perfectly. http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/carroll-jimmy.htm

Tug Collins I can't find a photo of. His Boxrec lists only 3 fights, against Duffy twice and Havlin. That's awfully high competition for a guy who never did anything else. https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/64261. Wilson was in the US in 1882, returned to England to fight Mitchell in 1883, but was back in the US again in 1886 at the latest. I suspect this guy might be Tug Wilson.

Those are awesome pieces, Dave


Thanks Greg. My anti-malware on my desktop is deathly afraid of Cyberboxingzone, so I wasn’t able to access Jimmy Carroll’s page there.

Was able to get it through your link on my phone though, so that pretty much settles it. I found it very interesting that Carroll had such a close association with George LaBlanche, who was also on that card.

Cyberboxingzone is great for a lot of fighters from that era and earlier, as they cover a lot of ground that Boxrec doesn’t recognize.They’re also great for tracking exhibition bouts that Boxrec doesn’t list for both newer and older era fighters.

Was bummed I couldn’t access them, and too paranoid of malware to make an exception for it in my program.

Tug was always a bit of an enigma, so wouldn’t be surprised if he was using his other name on occasion, for whatever reason.


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